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Old 08-28-2007 | 01:18 PM
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HID Fogs... arg im confused

I just got my Alright so I called my guy up who does all the work on my car and i asked him if he can hook up HID fogs in place of my stock fogs. Now... is this a matter of getting an HID kit or is it just a blue'ish bulb? I asked him and he said the HID kit requires a ballast..... so im just really confused. Order an HID kit? or Just a bulb...of some sort lol?

(im an idiot) and i did a search but nothing really answered the question
Old 08-28-2007 | 01:22 PM
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Buy a 9006 hid kit
Old 08-28-2007 | 01:24 PM
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You need a full kit

You need a conversion kit.
  • HID Bulbs
  • Starters & ballasts (most of these are now combined)
  • wiring harness

Ensure that you get a good kit. It shouls only use the existing car wiring for the switched power source. It should connect directly to the battery for it's constant power source.
Old 08-28-2007 | 02:32 PM
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alright i had my guy order me a kit... pics will be up as soon as i get them, wish me luck lol
Old 08-28-2007 | 02:37 PM
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I am in the same position as you.. i am thinking of getting an HID kit from xenondepot.com I have a kit for my dads car from them and no problems yet. it is a direct pkug and play although i had to make a few small adjustments to fit in the factory oem harness.
Old 08-28-2007 | 02:40 PM
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get a Kaixen 9006 HID kit from Excelerate. cant go wrong
Old 08-29-2007 | 02:03 PM
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Woah woah woah..... am i really looking to pay 600 dollars for this kit!? Because i called my guy jsut to double check on the price and he said it was 600 installed. Someone tell me he's kidding?!
Old 08-29-2007 | 03:39 PM
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Woah woah woah..... am i really looking to pay 600 dollars for this kit!? Because i called my guy jsut to double check on the price and he said it was 600 installed. Someone tell me he's kidding?!

How much is the kit? I got a set of Mcculloch Hid Kits. I think I paid ~$260 for them. Installed them myself so not sure how much it would cost to have it installed.
Old 08-29-2007 | 03:52 PM
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i got him down to 500 installed, i dont know which kit it is, but il find out and let you guys know im getting them installed friday....
Old 08-29-2007 | 05:36 PM
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And one more thing.... they come with a one year warranty... how reliable are these HID's, like how long do they last?
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Originally Posted by AirJordan23922
And one more thing.... they come with a one year warranty... how reliable are these HID's, like how long do they last?

I think most kits come with at least one year warranty. If I recall correctly, they will last 1000+ hours. But it depends more on how many time you turn on and off the bulb. Did you ever find out the manufacture of the kit? Would you consider installing it yourself? Its actually not that hard.
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Wow, thats a lot, this place i go to sells and installs the kit for much cheaper than that i think, Call - 551 - 265 - 9251, ask for Jay, and ask how much everything will cost. it shouldnt be that much at all.
Old 08-29-2007 | 07:05 PM
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HID's will not work with stock wiring on a 2007 acura tl-s. A seperate power source with its own relay is needed. The stock Fog system is 35w. At least 55w is needed to run a HID headlight kit. I know that the kits say they are 35w but they put out 35w at 24v after amplifying your voltage. You can try it if you want but it definately did not work on my car in the DRL's or the Fogs.

By the way... I believe the fog bulbs are either a H8 or H11 I cant remember its been so long. Look up the fogs on acuraautomotiveparts.org It lists the bulbs
Old 08-29-2007 | 11:22 PM
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Wow, thats a lot, this place i go to sells and installs the kit for much cheaper than that i think, Call - 551 - 265 - 9251, ask for Jay, and ask how much everything will cost. it shouldnt be that much at all.
yeah im def gonna call them, thanks a lot man, 500 is a bit much and il def find out the kit for you...

Porkipine: I would do it myself, but i dont want to risk doin anything to the car, i still dont have the plates or anything so it's basically brand new still.... and at least if a shop makes a mistake.... i can sue lol

JDMTurbo: That's another reason im having someone install them because i'd somehow mess it up
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anyone wanna chime in why we need HID fog lights.. when we already have bi-xenon projectors ? Wouldn't an HID setup defeat the purpose of the fogs (relatively low light output to prevent the glare/shine back in heavy fog?)

If anything i'd go for the "lexus" yellow bulbs..
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HID fogs just look better. I considered the yellow fogs, but couldnt find any pics to see what it looks like.
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I live in an area that gets horribly foggy.. i'll give up the 'looks better' because of the fog on the freeway - unless the HID fog light setup works better ?
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Originally Posted by Timmahh
I live in an area that gets horribly foggy.. i'll give up the 'looks better' because of the fog on the freeway - unless the HID fog light setup works better ?
I don't think HID fog setup will work better than the stock halogen bulbs. If I'm not mistaken, halogen bulbs output wavelength is around 700 nm. Compare that to a 3000k HID (yellow light) where max output is probably around 550nm, the halogen light can bend through the fog and it will reflect less than the shorter wavelength one (3000k HID).
Yet I swapped it out since it rarely fogs here so the fog lights are useless.
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Porkipine: I would do it myself, but i dont want to risk doin anything to the car, i still dont have the plates or anything so it's basically brand new still.... and at least if a shop makes a mistake.... i can sue lol

couple suggestions. Make sure they are using an external source to power up the ballast. Check review on the brand since you rather pay a little more now and not need to worry about fixing it later. Talk to the installer regarding the placement of the ballast. You might need to buy a new set of HID for your headlight orelse yours might end up looking like this.

stock 4300k on top, 5000k mcculloch for fogs.
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I got them suckers working all around....all 4300K...I just got the 6000K ultinon bulbs from Philips for the headlights......gonna install those next week
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Im speaking from experience.... from installing HIDs for all the new 07-08 cars all summer for people who dont want to buy $3000 packages to get the HIDs (and older cars as well) .....you dont need to use a new wiring harness there is another way to power the ballast fully with a capacitor and keep it on and keep it from flickering plus a fuse upgrade will have to be done from 10-15amps, unless the new TLs come with 15 on the line now....I didnt look but the 2 Type-S' I did had a flicker problem....I think its because Acura uses one line for 2 bulbs and theres too much draw on that one line (one relay one fuse or one relay 2 fuses) and only one ballast get the initial power to ignite. The Caps store the energy for a split second and balance the load on the line without flickering or power lose. Now for other cars that use pulses to detect HID setups, other things can be done to bypass it without relays. Except new Mercedes... I get those reprogrammed at benz.
Old 08-30-2007 | 09:00 AM
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i got him down to 500 installed, i dont know which kit it is, but il find out and let you guys know im getting them installed friday....
go to www.hidlook.com $159!!
Old 08-30-2007 | 09:02 AM
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couple suggestions. Make sure they are using an external source to power up the ballast. Check review on the brand since you rather pay a little more now and not need to worry about fixing it later. Talk to the installer regarding the placement of the ballast. You might need to buy a new set of HID for your headlight orelse yours might end up looking like this.

stock 4300k on top, 5000k mcculloch for fogs.
did you have to take off the front bumper??
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Ed u dont have to, u can if u want to.... or u can lift the car just enough to get urself under there and take out a couple of pin n screws.....and nice site good prices looks like good quality stuff have u bought from them b4?
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what about the stock fog lights? do those work? or are they just sitting there now...?
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go to www.hidlook.com $159!!
definitly a good price. I can figure out the manufacture of the ballast thou.

Originally Posted by erick3
what about the stock fog lights? do those work? or are they just sitting there now...?
you have to remove the stock fog bulbs. these HIDs are just a replacement for the stock fogs.
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^^ I meant I can't figure out the manufacture.

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Ed u dont have to, u can if u want to.... or u can lift the car just enough to get urself under there and take out a couple of pin n screws.....

I actually took off the bumper because its easier to figure out where to mount the ballast and do the wiring.
Did you have any problems with feedback? I did when I was making the two relays (one for each ballast) and had to use diodes.
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yea ur right about mounting thats another problem.....lol. nope no feedback jus plug the wire right into the ballast say bye bye to the relays and diodes. just a capacitor to break down the pulse and keep the voltage consistant. the harness I make is good for BMW AUDI CHRYSLER ACURA.....all of them have pretty much the same methods of keeping people from upgrading to HIDs. Instead of going nuts with relays n wires where they arent needed....I pulled out all my old school books for circuits and analysis of circuits.... there always has to be a simple way to fix a complicated problem. I did an 08 audi yesterday as a matter of fact with philips slim line ballasts n philips 6000k bulbs.....WOW is all I can say. Now with the Benzos they have a 3 check system where 3 of the 4 computers run constant diagnostics on the electrical flow of lights n everything else so if one computer doesnt cut ur power the other will.... and im not gonna sit there n figure those suckers out....ill just send them to my friend at benz
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so insead of paying 500 dollars im just gonna go buy the kit from the guy who ordered it for me and then my friend and i are going to install it. Me and him installed my angel eyes on my TSX... cant be much harder than that... I hope

Is the install hard? How long will it take? Are there any cutting of wires involved and stuff?

Thanks in advance.
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If you get the H11 kit, you need to cut into wires, if you get H8, its just plug in and thats all. from what i hear. Make sure you mount the ballasters in a place they wont get wet from going through puddles. Autosound just left them laying there, and theyre already rusting.
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10,000K D2S & Fogs.... Color matched LED corners...


What part of Jersey are you????
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looks hot, i shouldve went with 10000k. and what type of rims do you have? Have you gotten any problems with having cleared headlights with those LEDs?
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if we dont have the tl s should we get the 9006 kit? i was thinkin of buying the accord fog lights on ebay and replacing the bulb with the 9006 kit..does that work?
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I dunno guys...
Those 10000K bulbs have the effective light output of a halogen bulb. Way to turn your modern headlights into blue flashlights.

4300K is th emagic number.
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Originally Posted by TheWanderer316
looks hot, i shouldve went with 10000k. and what type of rims do you have? Have you gotten any problems with having cleared headlights with those LEDs?
No... no problem what so ever... well... I have the switchback LEDs.... they are white during the driving phase and they turn orange when I hit the blinkers...

Originally Posted by sifuacura
if we dont have the tl s should we get the 9006 kit? i was thinkin of buying the accord fog lights on ebay and replacing the bulb with the 9006 kit..does that work?
NO, it wouldn't work... because the accord fogs use the H11 bulb...
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I dunno guys...
Those 10000K bulbs have the effective light output of a halogen bulb. Way to turn your modern headlights into blue flashlights.

4300K is th emagic number.

Great comment Kennedy... fact noted... however, they look incredible...

I've been driving like this for months with no visibility issues... however, I do live in NYC... so every road is well lite with 4300k HID Street Lights...


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