zima76

Have anyone tried or have done the upgrade their light to 6000K or above? In addition, how hard to just get the bulbs out and check the spec?? any info is greatly appreciated it. Thanks.

zima76

any comments?

Tread

It requires bumper removal to replace the lamps per the svc manual.

Teh Jatt

to just change the bulbs? god damn..................

EluSiOn

are you sure!!! just to replace the bulb and you need to remove the bumper!!!???

zexi

thats a good thing ..keeps those theives away !!!!!

zima76

WOW.... what a work.....

ed99

I guess it is worth while if the bulbs will be brighter w/a purple tint. I have seen cars out on the street w/purple pinkish light and it looks pretty cool. I was thinking of upgrading mine to something brighter w/a purple pink tint. What kind of bulbs are you planning to get?? And how much is it for these aftermarket bulbs w/over 6000k??

jshih57

This means for those people with full body kit (my self included), we need to remove the front air-dam first, then the bumper to change the headlights to some thing that looks cool but will not pass inspection (at least here in NJ). This translates to remove & install before inspection, again after inspection, every 2 years. Wonder if it's worth this much trouble.

usc

getting 6000k bulbs isn't an "upgrade". it's a color change at the cost of reduced lighting. the 6000k bulbs are ~25% dimmer than the stock 4100k bulbs.

when HID first came out, everyone wanted their yellow halogen to look like the "white/blue" 4100k HID's. just about everyone gets suckered into buying blue-tinted halogen bulbs. now that everyone has HID's, people are getting suckered into buying 6000k bulbs, reducing usable light output.

some things never change.

caball88

usc is right the light output is less with the 6000K, although the purple hue does look pretty cool you are actually "downgrading" light output. personally i like the purple look but would not want to sacrifice performance. the TL's HID's are pretty damn bright and the color perfect, almost pure white on the road and a little blue/purple tint. doesn't make it look cheap.

Mr Zipps

You dont have to remove the bumper. If you take a look behind the headlight. Just use a torch screw and take the cover off the HID area and twist the silver (thingy). Then you will see the bulb. The bulb is held down by a metal clip. Push the clips down and out then pull the bulb out. Make sure you pull the bulb out straight because if you break the rod you need a new bulb...

dcarlinf1

In your case you should remove the bumper and the front spoiler as one piece. I wouldn't recommend trying to seperate the two. The are attached to one another with adhesive.

Skeedatl

Not really considering that HIDs are "supposed to have" 10x the life of halogen. I removed the bumper to do my CAI and it wasn't hard at all (so long as you know where the fasteners are). Took about 5 minutes to pull the bumper cover.

zima76

thanks for your expertise!!

Tripnbeats

Hey guys I think that if you get the 6000K philips or osram bulbs they r official without any light output loss just because they r basically oem. If anything the osram ones that are D2S for the 04 tl have a lil blue in em, the 6000K osram d2s has a darker blue with a lil purple and the light output stays the same I have spoken to a phillips tech about it because i was concerned with an ML55 bulb replacement I did for my friend. the philips d2s is whiter with a lil blue thrown in and no output loss either they guy said if u get those wack rebased D2S and D2R bulbs ur lookin for output loss because they r not oem replacements.

usc

no, the light loss is documented from the official specs from Philips. bluer light scatter more easily, hence, would appear just as bright, or slightly brighter (because it's a little more glaring). but there's a ~25% decrease in usable light as compared to the stock 4100k.

and if you live in an area when it rains fairly often, you'll definitely notice a decrease in light when driving in the rain at night. the bluer light gets absorbed into the asphalt and you'll hardly see anything other than reflective street signs and road reflectors.

Skeedatl

What's wrong with white light? Are people wanting blue just for the sake of blue?

Hybrid

Apparently so, which is why they consider it an "upgrade." Some others would consider it a downgrade, probably. That's what I'd consider them, if they are more annoying to oncoming traffic (brighter, color-flashing, glare). (I don't know if they are).

Mrjiggyfly920

I just ordered a pair of 8000k bulbs for my 03-TL-S... Ill post up pics when i get them in?

CSI

Our HIDs already very beautiful, It is a waste for investing money on a pair of bulbs...

it can get worse in the raining night... cannot see anything with those dimmer bulbs...

SouthernBoy

You're spot on right. The higher the kelvin temperature, the less usable light to the human eye. These higher kelvin lamps are downright dangerous in night time rainy conditions, especially with moderate to heavy rain on pooly marked roads.

The poster should give this some more serious thought before making the switch.

DeadLock

yea anything over 4100k - 4300k is going to have less output, yes it will be blue but who cares?

its looks blue due to the optics of the lense already, and I am a person who prefers function of looks.

Riu

Dont change you lights. The stocks are the brightest.

dooky211

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IMO, Stock S2000 HID's are the Brightest!!!!

SouthernBoy

If you really want to increase your usable light to the road surface and surrounding area, replace the fog lamps with Philips Premium lamps. I've done this to several of my cars in the past and it is worth the switch for more light output. I just ordered a set last night for my TL. Where I live, there are a lot of four-legged creatures, some quite large, that you do not want to hit with your car. Virginia is lousy with deer and western Prince William County is no exception.

DeadLock

there are not brigher in terms of how many lumens they output, about 3200-3400 but they do have a more colorful colorband in their cutoff with more blue and they have one of the widest beam patters on the market.

btw..........if you add a few washers in the TL projector shield, it will be a bluer cutoff, but it requires you to take the lenses apart...........which I will not do, because of the leaking, and most modified lenses leak as I have learned from my previous car.