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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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Headlight Difference between Tl & Tl-s

I have a 04 6spd and I want to know if it's that much of a difference,or should I just get jnc haedlight?
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Here are the differences

1) Ballasts are different
2) DRL (9905 bulbs) in type S compared to fog lights in the 04-06 models (9006 bulbs)
3) Turn signal bulbs are different, type S uses 1157 and the 04-06 uses 7443 bulbs.
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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I think another difference is that the TypeS headlight are HID for low and high beams.
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTL-S
I think another difference is that the TypeS headlight are HID for low and high beams.
they all are
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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type s (all 07-08 models for that matter) do not have the fogs in the headlights
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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whoops, jnc already said that, my bad
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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so if i wanted to swap to 07-08 headlights....would i have to get 07-08 ballasts too??
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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i think you could just take off the ballast and bulb from your own headlights and mount it on the new one
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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will have the passenger headlight next week hopefully and a full write up soon. gotta love ebay!
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Thanks everyone,Ballin excellent pics now I know why I want to get Tl -s headlight...
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pass427
Thanks everyone,Ballin excellent pics now I know why I want to get Tl -s headlight...
If you install TL-S headlights onto a 04-06 model TL then make sure you NEVER turn on your foglight (DRL opening in the Type S headlights) for more than a few minutes. DRL run at half the power compared to the 12 V 55 watt 9006 bulbs for the 04-06 TLs. Leaving them on for a few minutes would melt the DRL shrouds right off .

Some pictures as proof



left one isnt burnt but the right one is as you can see

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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JnC
If you install TL-S headlights onto a 04-06 model TL then make sure you NEVER turn on your foglight (DRL opening in the Type S headlights) for more than a few minutes. DRL run at half the power compared to the 12 V 55 watt 9006 bulbs for the 04-06 TLs. Leaving them on for a few minutes would melt the DRL shrouds right off .

Some pictures as proof



left one isnt burnt but the right one is as you can see

Jnc thanks for info because I'm my plan was to install accord fogs and use upper fogs with luminics 9006 hb4 yellow bulbs.. So know I'm confused.. Jnc can you do original 04 headlight to look like Tl -s headlight with angel eyes ( I believe that's what there call or halo) ? And if yes how much and what's turn around time...
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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Stop saying tl-s, only have them. 07/08 Base TL's have the same lights, then then they used those new lights on the TL-S
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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That is partially true. The base models aren't black inside , but you can make them like it.
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Stop saying tl-s, only have them. 07/08 Base TL's have the same lights, then then they used those new lights on the TL-S
man I love the zine it's like school subject Tl and every post teaches you more...I smell debt ahead...... LOL
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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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had no idea the drl shrouds would melt I wanted to mess around with a 9005 hid kit

if anyone installs type s tails then just use the drl with 9005 hyper yellows, it'll still look pretty sick for fogs, and the lower accord fogs would almost demand 3000k
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pass427
Jnc thanks for info because I'm my plan was to install accord fogs and use upper fogs with luminics 9006 hb4 yellow bulbs.. So know I'm confused.. Jnc can you do original 04 headlight to look like Tl -s headlight with angel eyes ( I believe that's what there call or halo) ? And if yes how much and what's turn around time...
Yes, that can be done. Following is what you would need

1) Type S defusers $25~$40 (you can either leave them the way the are or paint the side amber corners black)
2) Single CCFL kit $117 (install is free if you get headlights done by me)
3) Black out the internal bezel with hi gloss paint to match that of Type S. My labor for that is

My labor for the whole set up above is $150.

Turn around time is a day and since you are in NYC you should get your headlights back in 4~5 days from the day you ship them using USPS priority mail, shipping charges from NYC to MA = $13~$18
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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I hate those shrouds. They look tacky.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JnC
If you install TL-S headlights onto a 04-06 model TL then make sure you NEVER turn on your foglight (DRL opening in the Type S headlights) for more than a few minutes. DRL run at half the power compared to the 12 V 55 watt 9006 bulbs for the 04-06 TLs. Leaving them on for a few minutes would melt the DRL shrouds right off .

Some pictures as proof



left one isnt burnt but the right one is as you can see

SO MY THEORY WAS CORRECT

I SWORE that the bezels were melting cause of my 05 fogs.. I thought it was the angel eyes this whole time but aren't they cold cathodes? lol i didn't think they get hot or even warm at that... thanks for validating my hypothesis

but what's happening now is that the bezel around the HEADLIGHT is slowly deforming.. weird.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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^^ I have had at least 3 sets of type S headlights or base model headlights come through with the same problem. In 07-08 models the bulbs run as DRLs, running at half their total output. Even though the 04-06 fog light bulbs (9006) will fit the headlights but they will still run at their full potency hence creating the intense heat and melting the shroud. As I suggested earlier, dont use your foglights, if you plan to use them then just switch the bulbs to LED ones, they dont create as much heat as the halogen ones.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JnC
^^ I have had at least 3 sets of type S headlights or base model headlights come through with the same problem. In 07-08 models the bulbs run as DRLs, running at half their total output. Even though the 04-06 fog light bulbs (9006) will fit the headlights but they will still run at their full potency hence creating the intense heat and melting the shroud. As I suggested earlier, dont use your foglights, if you plan to use them then just switch the bulbs to LED ones, they dont create as much heat as the halogen ones.
Yeah I haven't turned those fogs on in months, lol.

but why is the headlight bezel becoming distorted?
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bforbrian
Yeah I haven't turned those fogs on in months, lol.

but why is the headlight bezel becoming distorted?
If you take off the front bezel and look at the part that is behind the bezel i.e. the part that holds the projector in place and also has the reflector for DRL incorporated into it then you will see it doesnt focus light through the little hole in the DRL opening. The reflector is huge and it shines light onto the whole bezel, in stock iteration the heat isnt significant enough to do the damage but once you crank up the 9006 bulbs to their fullest then the heat slowly melts the shroud and it deforms eventually.

In the case of above shroud, the foglights were left on for more than 15 minutes, the ballast blew and the owner had to drive home with just fogs on by the time he got home not only did he have a blown ballast but melted shrouds as well.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Is it safe to use the 07-08 type-s headlight DRL opening on my 05 TL as DRL without melting the bezel?
thanks.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Yes as long as you don't supply it with halogens and 55W. Just use LED's for a cool effect. What I want to know is what about running HID's in that spot, with or without a projector retrofit... will it still distort that spot?
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JnC
If you take off the front bezel and look at the part that is behind the bezel i.e. the part that holds the projector in place and also has the reflector for DRL incorporated into it then you will see it doesnt focus light through the little hole in the DRL opening. The reflector is huge and it shines light onto the whole bezel, in stock iteration the heat isnt significant enough to do the damage but once you crank up the 9006 bulbs to their fullest then the heat slowly melts the shroud and it deforms eventually.

In the case of above shroud, the foglights were left on for more than 15 minutes, the ballast blew and the owner had to drive home with just fogs on by the time he got home not only did he have a blown ballast but melted shrouds as well.
That would be me!!
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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here is my 04 tl converted to 08 TYPE-S,AND BLACKOUT BY JNC.
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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^ Dayummm, that looks nice
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