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Old 01-26-2011, 01:36 PM
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Head Light bulb replacements

So I am wanting to switch out my bulbs from the stock 5k's to some 6k's and I was on ebay just looking through "Parts" When I ran across theses bulbs here...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/D2S-6...item4aa82234a0

The price seems really good... I recall asking a local alarm shop that sold me my HID fogs, how much for replacements and he told me 60 to 70 a bulb...

Do these seem to cheap / and or junk?

Any suggestions on where to get replacements for a good price / quality bulbs?

Also I have been trying to find a DIY on how to remove the amber from our head lights can someone point me in the right direction for this?
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You get what you pay for. Check out the retrofit source they carry some OEM bulbs and aftermarket. Philips 85122+ are a good bright bulb to have but it's a 4300K $90. I have Osram 66240 CBI 5k but these bulbs are $180 a pair.
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Originally Posted by nate_0022
You get what you pay for. Check out the retrofit source they carry some OEM bulbs and aftermarket. Philips 85122+ are a good bright bulb to have but it's a 4300K $90. I have Osram 66240 CBI 5k but these bulbs are $180 a pair.

OSRAM 66240 CBI FTW! Finally got a chance to install mine a couple of days ago and they're pretty amazing.
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Originally Posted by nate_0022
You get what you pay for. Check out the retrofit source they carry some OEM bulbs and aftermarket. Philips 85122+ are a good bright bulb to have but it's a 4300K $90. I have Osram 66240 CBI 5k but these bulbs are $180 a pair.
the 85122+ are some of the best, but the new 5000K OSRAM D2S CBI bulbs are even better! Folks were ordering them from theretrofitsrouce for around 145 or so shipped so it might be worth it to call them! As well they carry the 81522+ bulbs. Either is a great bulb!
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Originally Posted by csmeance
the 85122+ are some of the best, but the new 5000K OSRAM D2S CBI bulbs are even better! Folks were ordering them from theretrofitsrouce for around 145 or so shipped so it might be worth it to call them! As well they carry the 81522+ bulbs. Either is a great bulb!
Yeah I got mine from hidplanet, Matt from TRS was hosting a GB. I got in the first batch so it only cost me $150, now they're $180-$190 I believe.
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OSRAM 66240 CBI FTW! Finally got a chance to install mine a couple of days ago and they're pretty amazing.
Do you have any comparison pictures compared to the oem bulbs?
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I don't have a shot of the OEM bulbs that come with the car. I've read those are pretty shitty bulb. Color shift about 1-200 hours, lose lumen out put by a lot.

I have pics of the CBIs though. I tried to replicate the light as I see it in person by messing with the setting on my slr.







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I just replaced mine with Kaixen HID's. Purchased them from Excelerate Performance for $100 a pair. Got 6000k with good light output. I've heard nothing but good things about Kaixen brand.

Had some from DDM Tuning but they turned junk after a year so definately don't go that route.


Follow the link below and select "D2C 6000" in the column on the right and that will get you what you want. It says D2C, but this also fits D2S (our cars).

http://store.excelerateperformance.c...591&Make=ACURA

I placed my order on a Sunday and they shipped Monday morning so you'll get them asap!
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Originally Posted by ebelp
Do you have any comparison pictures compared to the oem bulbs?
No comparison pics. I had 6k bulbs in my car before these, they're a huge upgrade over 6ks obviously, and i'd say a moderate upgrade over OEM bulbs. They're definitely brighter than the stock OSRAMs. Nate's pics above are pretty much exactly how I see my OSRAM CBIs as well. Very good representation. I'll try and snap some pics with my wife's SLR this weekend.
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I'm looking to change my bulbs out also as I'm sitting at 110K miles so my output isn't what I believe it should be. So on this topic....would the Phillips 85112+ be visibly brighter than the OSRAM CBI's seeing how they're 4300K?

I came across an older Lexus a few days ago and their HID's just obliterated mine. Lit up the whole freakin' 4 lane road for a quarter mile!! It was beautiful haha. Of course I couldn't ask him what he had done but I want that now. What's the stock K rating and lumen output?? I understand the K-ratings...lumens, etc so I don't need a lecture on it just incase I sound ignorant here lol.


If adding the OSRAM's or Phillips bulbs won't make too much of a difference then would I likely need to do the ZKW lens upgrade? I'd like to get more distance and spread (laterally) on the road....but this may be b/c mine are 110K miles old ya know.

...well...they haven't been on for 110k miles straight...but you know
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According to people on hidplanet who've used the 22+ and the CBI's have said the CBI's are brighter width wise, just overall brighter than the 22+. the CBI's apparently have the same 3200 lumen output as the 22+. The CBI's are basically the 22+ without the ugly yellow, and a tad brighter.
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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
I'm looking to change my bulbs out also as I'm sitting at 110K miles so my output isn't what I believe it should be. So on this topic....would the Phillips 85112+ be visibly brighter than the OSRAM CBI's seeing how they're 4300K?

I came across an older Lexus a few days ago and their HID's just obliterated mine. Lit up the whole freakin' 4 lane road for a quarter mile!! It was beautiful haha. Of course I couldn't ask him what he had done but I want that now. What's the stock K rating and lumen output?? I understand the K-ratings...lumens, etc so I don't need a lecture on it just incase I sound ignorant here lol.


If adding the OSRAM's or Phillips bulbs won't make too much of a difference then would I likely need to do the ZKW lens upgrade? I'd like to get more distance and spread (laterally) on the road....but this may be b/c mine are 110K miles old ya know.

...well...they haven't been on for 110k miles straight...but you know
Was it a Lexus LS? If yes, their projectors are made for a HUGE beam width wise and are popular for retro's for that reason.

The CBI's are 5000K bulbs, however OSRAM has them give out about 3200 lumens just like the 4300K 85122+ bulbs. You get a slightly whiter color without loosing output with the CBI's.

As far as a ZKW lens upgrade, it's not necessary to do. BUT if you are ever to tear into the headlight to clear it or paint it or something, it's probably worth your while to do it while you already have it apart.

FYI HID's start loosing light output over time with useage. A new bulb will def. be a few hundred lumens brighter than your current bulb.
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Originally Posted by nate_0022
According to people on hidplanet who've used the 22+ and the CBI's have said the CBI's are brighter width wise, just overall brighter than the 22+. the CBI's apparently have the same 3200 lumen output as the 22+. The CBI's are basically the 22+ without the ugly yellow, and a tad brighter.
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Was it a Lexus LS? If yes, their projectors are made for a HUGE beam width wise and are popular for retro's for that reason.

The CBI's are 5000K bulbs, however OSRAM has them give out about 3200 lumens just like the 4300K 85122+ bulbs. You get a slightly whiter color without loosing output with the CBI's.

As far as a ZKW lens upgrade, it's not necessary to do. BUT if you are ever to tear into the headlight to clear it or paint it or something, it's probably worth your while to do it while you already have it apart.

FYI HID's start loosing light output over time with useage. A new bulb will def. be a few hundred lumens brighter than your current bulb.

Thanks guys! I'm not positive what lexus it was b/c it was midnight but DAMN...it looks good!


Also, I was over at retrofit, just playin' around, and saw they have some Morimoto 5FIVE 50W HID's (bulbs or complete kit) that have what they say to be 4200 lumens for the 5K temp. Has anyone tried a 50w or 55w bulb/ballast in our headlights? How would/do they hold up? I mean why wouldn't you go with a higher wattage bulb with great lumen output (other than if your housing can't hold it, heat wise,etc)?


Where's the cheapest place I can find these OSRAM CBI's? Are these the brightest, non-yellowish bulb you can buy?
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The 5 five, or a DL50 I believe someone is running over at hidplanet in a set of TLs without any burning the only downside is that the bulbs will lose half of it's life from running at higher wattage and the 22+ maybe be even more yellow, I can't confirm that last one though. As of right now according to all the guys that are using them love them, very bright, and pure white. Right now a guy has a brand new pair for sale at hidplanet for $195 shipped. Otherwise these are hard to get because they have to be imported from Germany.
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Alright so I have gotten a lot of good feedback from you guys, thank you!

So now what all to do before taking my lights apart...

1. Remove lights...
2. Remove crappy amber marking...
3. Install Type 1 switch backs.
4. Find ZKW lens or something else just as slick? Maybe some stright out clear projectors other than ZKW???
5. Paint the housing
6. HID DRL's
7. Replace stock bulbs 6000k across the board...

Suggestions to my to do list? Any DIY's? links to where to buy.

I personally really like my HID's to be extremely bright =D
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I believe this is an option?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ACURA...Q5fAccessories
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Yep those are the lenses aside fromt the authentic E46 ZKW lenses that will only work for a clear lens swap known.
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Originally Posted by xtmslyy00
Alright so I have gotten a lot of good feedback from you guys, thank you!

So now what all to do before taking my lights apart...

1. Remove lights...
2. Remove crappy amber marking...
3. Install Type 1 switch backs.
4. Find ZKW lens or something else just as slick? Maybe some stright out clear projectors other than ZKW???
5. Paint the housing
6. HID DRL's
7. Replace stock bulbs 6000k across the board...

Suggestions to my to do list? Any DIY's? links to where to buy.

I personally really like my HID's to be extremely bright =D

No HID's in the DRL's please! Unless your doing a retrofit...don't blind us all. Spend that money on better bulbs or the ZKW lens.
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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey
No HID's in the DRL's please! Unless your doing a retrofit...don't blind us all. Spend that money on better bulbs or the ZKW lens.

Well the DRL's = only day time so no blinding should be going on... lol either HID kit or I was going to get theses here http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/D...-p9087945.html

When you say retrofit... can you fill me in a bit more on that please... < yeah I know I'm a noob =D
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Originally Posted by nate_0022
Yep those are the lenses aside fromt the authentic E46 ZKW lenses that will only work for a clear lens swap known.

Will only work for a clear lense swap? More details?
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ZKW's from a BMW E46, or the ZKW-r from the TRS are the only known clear lens swaps for the TL projectors.
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Originally Posted by xtmslyy00
Well the DRL's = only day time so no blinding should be going on... lol either HID kit or I was going to get theses here http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/D...-p9087945.html

When you say retrofit... can you fill me in a bit more on that please... < yeah I know I'm a noob =D
Don't get the LED conversion kit from V-leds, I bought it and it doesn't work properly. The DRLs stay on even after you turn off the car and they're not even that bright. To get them to turn off you have to restart your car again, it's really ghetto. I returned them for a refund.

As for HIDs in your DRLs. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't do that. That's just absurd, it's absolutely unnecessary to have that much light in a reflector based housing DURING the day. You gain absolutely no usable light for driving since its day time already and you just end up annoying all other drivers around you. If you must go HID DRL, retro fit some projectors in there. Retro-fit means you tear apart your current headlights, cut out a spot in the reflector housing to fit in a projector based housing for the HID bulbs.
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Originally Posted by xtmslyy00
Well the DRL's = only day time so no blinding should be going on... lol either HID kit or I was going to get theses here http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/D...-p9087945.html

When you say retrofit... can you fill me in a bit more on that please... < yeah I know I'm a noob =D
A retrofit is when you take something like a projector and put them into your headlights by securing them to your halogen reflectors.

Even if it is the daytime HIDs in your halogen reflectors are still annoying and blinding. It still like leaving your headlights on highbeams and driving around the daytime with them
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Just looked at that eBay link again. You don't need to buy the projectors. You just need to buy the lenses.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=136&osCsid=a1c3ea783b 9a5bac58263ba15b034c8e
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Originally Posted by chuanger
Don't get the LED conversion kit from V-leds, I bought it and it doesn't work properly. The DRLs stay on even after you turn off the car and they're not even that bright. To get them to turn off you have to restart your car again, it's really ghetto. I returned them for a refund.

As for HIDs in your DRLs. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't do that. That's just absurd, it's absolutely unnecessary to have that much light in a reflector based housing DURING the day. You gain absolutely no usable light for driving since its day time already and you just end up annoying all other drivers around you. If you must go HID DRL, retro fit some projectors in there. Retro-fit means you tear apart your current headlights, cut out a spot in the reflector housing to fit in a projector based housing for the HID bulbs.
That is a not cool... hmm is that because that kit from v-leds requires direct power from the batt? I saw how they get installed... What about just a straight out LED swap without the ballasts?

hmm I guess I have never thought of HID's being that bright during the day... I see cars with them on here and there and it doesnt seem bright to me... idk I just dont like the ugly yellow =D

I was considering putting a switch on my DRL's because I really dont care for them being on when I am "Parked" so maybe that could fix most of my issues for blinding... and if someone brake checks me guess I could throw em on and piss them off hahaha =D all good intentions of course
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06 TL Bulbs question

Hi, just got 06 TL, planning on changing original headlights bulbs, not sure which one to get, I think about garax 6000k and what is this size about D2S or D2R? which one do I need?
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Garax? Never heard of it. So in that case I wouldn't get them. need a reliable name such as philips, Osram. Our cars take D2S, but D2R will fit, but they're usually used in reflector based HID.
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Where can I get those osram cbi's?
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Contact matt at Theretrofitsource and see if he's going to host another GB. Otherwise people have gotten them on eBay but I think they're going for $200+

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Originally Posted by nate_0022
Garax? Never heard of it. So in that case I wouldn't get them. need a reliable name such as philips, Osram. Our cars take D2S, but D2R will fit, but they're usually used in reflector based HID.
Tnx, Ive seen those, garax are Japanese, and know people using them on Lexus.
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Where can I get those osram cbi's?
Look into the Philips 85122+ capsules. They're $95/pair on TRS, but you can find them for $50 shipped (new) on eBay. The light output is top notch and they don't color shift over time like most other bulbs.
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Any one ever try these
http://www.amazon.com/JLM-Conversion...K/ref=lh_ni_t_
( I know theyre h11 but im thinking about using them for my accord fog lights)
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Any one ever try these
http://www.amazon.com/JLM-Conversion...K/ref=lh_ni_t_
( I know theyre h11 but im thinking about using them for my accord fog lights)
First, there are plenty of reputable HID kits that are much cheaper than that. Check out DDM Tuning as they're cheap and offer lifetime warranty. Next, if your going to use HID's in a non-projector housing, make sure you aim them down so your not blinding everyone. Also, unless you have 8k HID's in your projectors..I would go with the K to match or 3k (yellow)
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Yeah im already running 8000k's in my headlights and im not really a fan of the 3000k look. And trust me i plan on aiming them down. have you had any experience with the raptor kit?
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I bought 6000K bulbs from http://www.hidextra.com a couple of years ago and haven't had any problems. They look good, and the price was right too.
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Anyone know what kind of bulbs go for fog lights 06 TL?
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