Gas Brand
Trending Topics
05-05-2005, 06:36 PM
#8
Moderator
Cheapest Avaliable for the particular octane (87,89,91 etc)
Its roughly the same stuff honestly.
If you're so concerned about the additives, simply use FP at the 1 ounce to 5 gallon ratio with off-brand gas and it often times still comes out cheaper than name brand stations such as Shell, Chevron, etc. Where I live, name brand stations such as Chevron and Shell typically cost 7 cents more per gallon than other stations such as Arco/BP or off-brand stations.
My Calculations:
Chevron (Scenario A)
$2.80/gallon * 10 gallons=$28
Off-Brand (Scenario B)
$2.73/gallon * 10 gallons=$27.30
FP @ $0.27/ounce * 2 ounces=$0.54
Total: $27.84
The person who uses the off-brand gas with FP will not only have a cleaner fuel system over time, but also better combustion efficiency. He/she will see lower nitration readings and lower insolubles on their oil analysis report due to the improved combustion efficiency plus they'll see less carbon buildup.
Michael
Its roughly the same stuff honestly.
If you're so concerned about the additives, simply use FP at the 1 ounce to 5 gallon ratio with off-brand gas and it often times still comes out cheaper than name brand stations such as Shell, Chevron, etc. Where I live, name brand stations such as Chevron and Shell typically cost 7 cents more per gallon than other stations such as Arco/BP or off-brand stations.
My Calculations:
Chevron (Scenario A)
$2.80/gallon * 10 gallons=$28
Off-Brand (Scenario B)
$2.73/gallon * 10 gallons=$27.30
FP @ $0.27/ounce * 2 ounces=$0.54
Total: $27.84
The person who uses the off-brand gas with FP will not only have a cleaner fuel system over time, but also better combustion efficiency. He/she will see lower nitration readings and lower insolubles on their oil analysis report due to the improved combustion efficiency plus they'll see less carbon buildup.
Michael
05-05-2005, 10:59 PM
#11
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2002
Age: 48
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There's a law suit here in Houston against RaceTrack, a local cheap gas station, where multiple cars are experiencing trouble after using their gas.
IMO stick with V-power or Chevron! Those Exxon gas along with Mobil isnt as friendly to the environment for those environmentalists
IMO stick with V-power or Chevron! Those Exxon gas along with Mobil isnt as friendly to the environment for those environmentalists
05-05-2005, 11:09 PM
#13
Instructor
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Age: 54
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I use Sheetz 93 when I can since it's only $2.19 at their new station.
If I can't get there, I use BP/Amoco 93 which averages around $2.37 depending on which station I'm closest to at the time.
If I can't get there, I use BP/Amoco 93 which averages around $2.37 depending on which station I'm closest to at the time.
05-06-2005, 04:40 AM
#14
Registered Member
I try only to burn Amoco in my TL and there's a new Amoco (BP) station in my area that sells their premium grade fuel (93 octane) at 7 cents off on Thursdays. Yesterday, it was going for $2.139. As you can see by this, their regular price is quite a bit lower than other Amocos around the area. They are generally 10-12 cents cheaper than them.
05-06-2005, 06:27 AM
#15
Instructor
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Westlake, Ohio
Posts: 113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I use BP (Amoco) 93, simply because the station is handy to get to. I have used Shell V Power, I notice no difference between the two brands. I wish there were a Chevron or Mobil here in northern Ohio but no such luck.
05-06-2005, 08:06 AM
#18
Keep Right Except to Pass
Depends on where I am. Usually Shell 93 because there is a Shell station on my commute that is cheaper than most other local stations. But sometimes I use Hess 93 because Hess is even cheaper; only problem is that the Hess station is out of the way and I can't justify driving a few miles each way just to try to save a nickel per gallon.
I have also tried Sunoco 91 and have experienced no difference between the 91 and the 93. Sunoco is less convenient to get to, so I don't use it as often.
If all things were equal, I'd probably use Exxon simply because my cars have always run well on Exxon, so why mess with it?
I have also tried Sunoco 91 and have experienced no difference between the 91 and the 93. Sunoco is less convenient to get to, so I don't use it as often.
If all things were equal, I'd probably use Exxon simply because my cars have always run well on Exxon, so why mess with it?
05-06-2005, 08:47 AM
#20
Intermediate
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 54
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
All gas are the same, the only difference is the additive they add to it for the octane boost and detergent. It is not cost-effective to have a refinery in every region for every gas company, unless you’re in Texas 
(LOL!!). There would be a refinery on every block and environmentalist would be screaming bloody Mary!!
You shouldn’t mixed gasoline brands because the additive may bond and create a new compound that may have undesirable detergent effects. Also you should change brands on a regular basis to prevent build up of the additive, even the best additives built up after a while. So rotate on a plan like every 3500 or 5000.
I rotate every oil change, for the TL that’s every 3500.
Right now for the first 3500 I’m using BP/Amoco, I will have an oil change this weekend and when the tank is empty I’m switching to Chevron, then back to BP/Amoco and on and on.
It doesn’t matter who you rotate with, but I would recommend not using the cheap gas because some of them only add the additive to raise the octane but no detergent. If this is ok with you fine.
(LOL!!). There would be a refinery on every block and environmentalist would be screaming bloody Mary!! You shouldn’t mixed gasoline brands because the additive may bond and create a new compound that may have undesirable detergent effects. Also you should change brands on a regular basis to prevent build up of the additive, even the best additives built up after a while. So rotate on a plan like every 3500 or 5000.
I rotate every oil change, for the TL that’s every 3500.
Right now for the first 3500 I’m using BP/Amoco, I will have an oil change this weekend and when the tank is empty I’m switching to Chevron, then back to BP/Amoco and on and on.
It doesn’t matter who you rotate with, but I would recommend not using the cheap gas because some of them only add the additive to raise the octane but no detergent. If this is ok with you fine.
05-06-2005, 09:06 AM
#22
Team Nighthawk Member
Being in the O&G business myself I can tell you that RED05TL is right on the money. I have heard the theory that I will just sample the best of Company A's cleaning agent then the best of Company B's cleaning agent and I will always have a smooth cleaning engine.....JUST NOT TRUE, you get the chemical reaction previously mentioned. Go with one and don't mix for periods of time. It's like taking multiple medicines and one effects the other....some with very bad bonding effects gumming up YOUR ENGINE.
The cheap places (besides the already mentioned) will buy from the cheapest supplier and consequently the station could potentially creating a gummed up mess in their tanks before you even get it.
The cheap places (besides the already mentioned) will buy from the cheapest supplier and consequently the station could potentially creating a gummed up mess in their tanks before you even get it.
05-06-2005, 09:24 AM
#24
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2002
Age: 48
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I agree with skiul8r and red05tl. Those cheap gas stations add the worst detergent and additives that has a negative affect on cars. Although i think exxon and mobil which are the same are at the bottom of the totem pole.
05-06-2005, 11:24 AM
#25
Registered Member
There are no Mobil stations in the mid-Atlantic region (not sure about Exxon), since the merger of Mobil and Exxon. Because of this, the "gov'mnt" forced a turnover of these stations to TOSCO (Sherman Anti-Trust Act). Now the fuel IS, indeed, Mobil, but the stations are not.
05-09-2005, 08:33 PM
#27
Advanced
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Springfield, PA
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hmmm, I use several different types of gases in my 04 TL. I switch back
and forth between 89 and 93. I notice -0- difference, no pinging, no
power loss on whatever is in there. Gas mileage very consistent.
No complaints.
I had an 01 Saab 9-3 before that and consistenly used Sunoco 93 from
the same station for 2+ years. At 24k miles, I had a total valve train
failure. The values were totally burned up and pistons carbon coated.
Dealer fixed it, but couldn't explain why. Car always ran just fine I thought.
May have just been the Saab, but the theory about NOT switching
gases doesn't totally fly with me because of this.
I don't think the average person will every be able to tell how good
the gas is in their car if the car runs just fine. You don't know what
is in their tanks, but you can go with the bigger names, higher
volume (or so I thought).
Oh I babied the Saab and changed oil religiously every 3k miles.
The dealer was in shock because he knew how I treated the car.
Couldn't explain it (I wasn't driving it hard enough on the highway
he said). I got the TL 2 months after they fixed it!
and forth between 89 and 93. I notice -0- difference, no pinging, no
power loss on whatever is in there. Gas mileage very consistent.
No complaints.
I had an 01 Saab 9-3 before that and consistenly used Sunoco 93 from
the same station for 2+ years. At 24k miles, I had a total valve train
failure. The values were totally burned up and pistons carbon coated.
Dealer fixed it, but couldn't explain why. Car always ran just fine I thought.
May have just been the Saab, but the theory about NOT switching
gases doesn't totally fly with me because of this.
I don't think the average person will every be able to tell how good
the gas is in their car if the car runs just fine. You don't know what
is in their tanks, but you can go with the bigger names, higher
volume (or so I thought).
Oh I babied the Saab and changed oil religiously every 3k miles.
The dealer was in shock because he knew how I treated the car.
Couldn't explain it (I wasn't driving it hard enough on the highway
he said). I got the TL 2 months after they fixed it!
05-09-2005, 11:59 PM
#28
Intermediate
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 54
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You're correct, it is not noticeable. The engine in the TL is a wonderfully engineered thing, the computer is also part of it and very nice. Using a lower octane will not give you any knocks and pings, because the computer compensates for it, so you can’t tell.
But there is a loss of engine power during the compensation, not noticeable, you’ll never use the full power of the engine unless you’re drag racing, so it maybe ok for a few.
But with that, many, many people spend thousands of dollars to squeeze a few more HP & Torque out of the engine, is it ok to lose a little bit for a few pennies? I don’t think so.
You buy the car to run at spec or better, if not a $35K investment would be better spent on two tricked out civics.
If you’re strapped for cash, you can use the lower grade for a little, but if it is going to used for the life of the car, trade it in and get something that fits your budget.
For me, my number one reason for buying the TL was performance for the money, the Bluetooth phone, and then the styling, among others.
On your SAAB, did you use fuel injector cleaner? They are all garbage, stay away from them with your TL.
But there is a loss of engine power during the compensation, not noticeable, you’ll never use the full power of the engine unless you’re drag racing, so it maybe ok for a few.
But with that, many, many people spend thousands of dollars to squeeze a few more HP & Torque out of the engine, is it ok to lose a little bit for a few pennies? I don’t think so.
You buy the car to run at spec or better, if not a $35K investment would be better spent on two tricked out civics.
If you’re strapped for cash, you can use the lower grade for a little, but if it is going to used for the life of the car, trade it in and get something that fits your budget.
For me, my number one reason for buying the TL was performance for the money, the Bluetooth phone, and then the styling, among others.
On your SAAB, did you use fuel injector cleaner? They are all garbage, stay away from them with your TL.
Originally Posted by smr2112
Hmmm, I use several different types of gases in my 04 TL. I switch back
and forth between 89 and 93. I notice -0- difference, no pinging, no
power loss on whatever is in there. Gas mileage very consistent.
No complaints.
I had an 01 Saab 9-3 before that and consistenly used Sunoco 93 from
the same station for 2+ years. At 24k miles, I had a total valve train
failure. The values were totally burned up and pistons carbon coated.
Dealer fixed it, but couldn't explain why. Car always ran just fine I thought.
May have just been the Saab, but the theory about NOT switching
gases doesn't totally fly with me because of this.
I don't think the average person will every be able to tell how good
the gas is in their car if the car runs just fine. You don't know what
is in their tanks, but you can go with the bigger names, higher
volume (or so I thought).
Oh I babied the Saab and changed oil religiously every 3k miles.
The dealer was in shock because he knew how I treated the car.
Couldn't explain it (I wasn't driving it hard enough on the highway
he said). I got the TL 2 months after they fixed it!
and forth between 89 and 93. I notice -0- difference, no pinging, no
power loss on whatever is in there. Gas mileage very consistent.
No complaints.
I had an 01 Saab 9-3 before that and consistenly used Sunoco 93 from
the same station for 2+ years. At 24k miles, I had a total valve train
failure. The values were totally burned up and pistons carbon coated.
Dealer fixed it, but couldn't explain why. Car always ran just fine I thought.
May have just been the Saab, but the theory about NOT switching
gases doesn't totally fly with me because of this.
I don't think the average person will every be able to tell how good
the gas is in their car if the car runs just fine. You don't know what
is in their tanks, but you can go with the bigger names, higher
volume (or so I thought).
Oh I babied the Saab and changed oil religiously every 3k miles.
The dealer was in shock because he knew how I treated the car.
Couldn't explain it (I wasn't driving it hard enough on the highway
he said). I got the TL 2 months after they fixed it!
05-26-2005, 01:07 PM
#33
SCMPredator
Shell V-Power w/ the Citibank Shell Mastercard - 5% of Purchases...but u have to buy atleast 10 fills of Shell Gas - otherwise there is an annual fee of $25 or more.
Amoco..if shell is not available in driving area...their formulation is different from all the others.
Amoco..if shell is not available in driving area...their formulation is different from all the others.
05-26-2005, 08:00 PM
#37
Stay Out Of the Left Lane
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: SE Mass --- > Central VA --- > SE Mass
Age: 58
Posts: 8,996
Received 1,245 Likes
on
1,031 Posts
Mobil Super primarily as a combination of price and convience.
05-27-2005, 11:31 PM
#40
Team Nighthawk
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Naperville/Aurora, IL
Age: 40
Posts: 401
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Mobile or BP 93 octane
$2.18 gal
I usually like to stick with BP all the time, but if i am low and need gas and mobile is closer I'll go there.
$2.18 gal
I usually like to stick with BP all the time, but if i am low and need gas and mobile is closer I'll go there.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JDM96specCTR
Car Parts for Sale
1
10-17-2015 01:06 PM
