i paid $40 for each. the tire rotation included high speed balancing. did i get ripped off? what does the second service for vehicle include(10,000 miles)?

 

The tire rotation and balance is a good price, but the oil change seems a little high, but close to the $25-30 usually charged for oil and filter change, depending on where you live and where you get it done.

There is no 10,000 mile service. What did your MID say when you got this service done? If it was done at 5,000 miles, then you might not have needed the tire rotation, and why did they balance the tires? Were you getting vibrations or a rough ride?

 

Why would you need to balance your tires after rotating?

 

Most places include a balance in the rotation. More often than not I've had to rebalance tires with a rotation.

 

its about right for balance and rotate...oil change is bit high..

are u a cop?

 

Most dealers give a free first oil change. I paid $18 for tire rotation at my dealer. $39 for second oil change.

 

Seeing as you are on a car forum with almost 1k worth of posts you should be somewhat car maintance updated with the real facts.

Anything that gets rotated to the front of the car has to be always balanced. WHY?! simple because if you did have any rear wheels out of balance and you didn't feel it then once they are rotated to the front you sure as hell will feel it. Rotation should be done every 6k to maximize the life of your tires. In doing so within those 6k or 6 months you would have hit many rough bumpy roads making your balanced rims now out of balance. Its just logic and its all written rules of the automotive world.

Future maintance down the roads will obviously be a 4 wheel alignment.
Also with every oil change and rotate the tire pressure should be checked and the wear indication on each tire should be looked at carefully and rotated as best possible concidering tire specs, to increase the life on those tires.

 

i agree^^^. they told me at dealership that when they rotate tires they do high speed balancing too. $80 is a little too much but i want to get the most out of my tires. i drive alot.

 

I guess, it just sounds fishy... I mean, unless you knock off a weight or something, I don't see how they will "fall out of balance"....

I would think most of the mass in a tire is in it's belts/cords/etc, not in the actual treads. Especially considering you won't wear much off in 6k miles, especially on the back tires.... I don't know, I've never balanced my tires with a rotation, and I've never had issues, and I drive on average about 30-40k miles a year. That's 60-80k a year, if you include the wife. And I rotate the tires religeously.

I looked online, and saw some tire shops recommending balancing with rotations, but not manufacturers, they seem to make no mention of balancing during rotations, just at initial install, if any weights get dislodged, or if the tire is ever dismounted from the wheel.

Sometimes I wonder if it's just another fee the installers can charge you.

 

An unbalanced tire can be felt regardless of mount location, so the routine re-balance falls into the same category as the 2500-mi oil change. Doing a 4-wheel alignment as regular maintenance also serves no purpose, unless you regularly bounce off curbs. These types of preemptive maintenance measures make no sense and only invite yet another opportunity for the shop to mis-install, mis-torque, damage or lose something.

If it ain't broke, blah, blah....

 

I think the re-balance is a justification for the $40 fee. I would really be surprised if the tires really need to be re-balanced at all.

Jeez, I get the WalMart behind my office to rotate my tires for $6.00 in total. I believe someone says COSCO does it for free.

gurney

 

Probably, and 40 dollars is on the high end of things, but when I was working at a shop we rebalanced the tires and most of them would need the weights shifted around.

 

Costco will perform a free rotation only if you've purchased the tires from them. Other included services are nitrogen filling and patching. Again, free for paying customers only.

 

I refuse to buy tires from Costco. Sure, they may be cheaper, but their techs are complete idiots... (At least the location over by where I live).

They forgot to tighten the lugs

Good thing I always check the torque of the lugs when I pull out (used to keep torque wrench in trunk). I went to the lugs, and some were hand tightented only, and others were not even tight enough to touch the wheels.

Because of crap like this, I don't even bother bringing my car to get tires anymore... I'll put the wheels in the trunk, and take a different car, and roll em' into the shop for new tires... Then I'll roll em' back into the trunk, and install em' my damn self.

 

at the dealership i go to, first oil change was free, but they charge 40 dollars to balance using the hunter roadforce pro and alignments cost 80 dollars. They do a very good job.

 

Again, your car is your investment and the way you would like this investment to run down the road is your call. As tires start to get worn the balance on each tire does change. Very rarely do I see a car which Ive done a 4 wheel balance to that comes back in 6k or 5-6 months having a balanced rim. You don't need to hit anything to throw off your balance. Now a bad tire is noticable anywhere you put it is it true, but in this case we are not talking about a bad tire. The only person that can make that call is the automotive tech which is balancing your tires and notices a tire being bad.

Now if you do have a rim and its out by .75 all together and its on the right rear but now rotated to the left front you will feel it because its closer to the steering wheel. The farther away an unbalanced tire is away from the front the less of you feeling it. Now it all depends on how much is it out by and other factors. As for alignements just because your steering wheel is dead on doesnt mean you still dont need one. Your eyes can't measure what a machine picks up. Your investment down the road, if its something your going to keep for a long time I would take maintance more seriously.

 

Sorry, you are 100% wrong. I am an ASE certified technician, you are misleading others trying to learn something about their cars. There are many dealers and private shops out there that do amazing work, you probably haven't found the right person you can trust with your car. I would suggest you do your research and don't mislead anyone that wants to learn, even if your not a technician in the automotive field.

 

Agreed !