Feeler: Chinese Tails/Modded Tails
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12-25-2006, 10:45 AM
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Probably not... If the interest is there, 06WDP will become an Acurazine vendor and either sell modified tail lights, or make the modifcation for folks that send them in. As discussed in the thread, this mod is more difficult than clearing the headlights, as it requires precision cutting/grinding.
I'd leave thisone tot he proffessionals.
I'd leave thisone tot he proffessionals.
Originally Posted by sunny201
Is there gonna be a write up on how to do this? Those things look HOT
12-26-2006, 02:57 AM
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i wonder what it would look like with the reflector only being red and everything else being the same. that way it would be legal.
write up? probably not if he is going to be a vendor, that would not work well for business. but a write up would be cool. i would much appreciate it. i shared my knowledge and had a write up for the front headlights. how about an xmas present and give us a write up and some hints on cracking this baby open since it seems to be different then the headlights!
write up? probably not if he is going to be a vendor, that would not work well for business. but a write up would be cool. i would much appreciate it. i shared my knowledge and had a write up for the front headlights. how about an xmas present and give us a write up and some hints on cracking this baby open since it seems to be different then the headlights!
12-26-2006, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ayethetiense
i wonder what it would look like with the reflector only being red and everything else being the same. that way it would be legal.
write up? probably not if he is going to be a vendor, that would not work well for business. but a write up would be cool. i would much appreciate it. i shared my knowledge and had a write up for the front headlights. how about an xmas present and give us a write up and some hints on cracking this baby open since it seems to be different then the headlights!
write up? probably not if he is going to be a vendor, that would not work well for business. but a write up would be cool. i would much appreciate it. i shared my knowledge and had a write up for the front headlights. how about an xmas present and give us a write up and some hints on cracking this baby open since it seems to be different then the headlights!
What makes these illegal? There's no law that says there has to be red lens in there...
The Lexus RX 300's tailights are clear like this, but use red led's (just like these will):
12-26-2006, 09:40 AM
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The Lexus has red reflectors in the bumper. I don't think the reflectors would be too big of a deal unless your state has car inspections. A smoked red reflector might be an option then.
12-26-2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by T. Diddy
The Lexus has red reflectors in the bumper. I don't think the reflectors would be too big of a deal unless your state has car inspections. A smoked red reflector might be an option then.
JB Weld? Actually, he's using silicone. The lights are just epoxies together. I see no reason what replacing epoxy with epoxy won;t work just fine.
Hundreds of folks seem to be doing this on thier headlights without issue.
12-26-2006, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
I don't think the red reflectors matter either... as long as you have red tail and brake lights (LEDs), that's all that matters.
12-27-2006, 05:25 AM
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yup yup, you need to have red reflectors on the back of every car to make it legal. doesnt matter if its on the bumper or in the taillight or anywhere else. It just needs to be directly visible from the back of the car.
thats how it is in cali, not sure about other states, but i'm sure thats how it is in most states if not all.
thats how it is in cali, not sure about other states, but i'm sure thats how it is in most states if not all.
12-27-2006, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
I don't think the red reflectors matter either... as long as you have red tail and brake lights (LEDs), that's all that matters.
JB Weld? Actually, he's using silicone. The lights are just epoxies together. I see no reason what replacing epoxy with epoxy won;t work just fine.
Hundreds of folks seem to be doing this on thier headlights without issue.
JB Weld? Actually, he's using silicone. The lights are just epoxies together. I see no reason what replacing epoxy with epoxy won;t work just fine.
Hundreds of folks seem to be doing this on thier headlights without issue.
1 you need 2 red reflectors located on the rear of the car.
2 that def looks like JB weld, he is probably resealing them with silicon in addition to the JB
3 these tailamps are def CUT and then epoxied back together.....they are not designed to be pulled apart like headlamps
4 when opening headlamps, there is rubber/silicon coumpound that when heated releases and streatches out. these can be pulled apart and resealed multiple times if desired. the tailamps, are not designed to be taken apart. the only thing holding them back together now is JB...i dont even think that there is a tongue and grove that he is able to slide them into to get perfect alignment.
silicon= soft, pliable, weak
epoxy= generally clear/opaque plastic, hard, strong
JB weld= silver/gray, very hard, very strong
12-28-2006, 02:28 PM
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1. Having a red reflector is the law. Dont think anyone would really have much of a problem with these taillights, there is still a clear reflector and the brake lights are still red when lit. If anyone concerned were interested you could pick a combo with red in it or you get red reflectors and install them somewhere in the bumper like the TSX or the Lexus pictured above.
2. There is NO JB WELD. The taillights are cut open and resealed with automotive grade silicone. The also have screws in them holding pieces together and in place. They are not "pulled apart" like headlamps. There is also no epoxy.
3. The headlamps are NOT "designed" to be opened so there is no comparison between the two, just different assembly methods from Honda. If they were "designed" to be pulled apart then there would be replacement pieces which there aren't. An E46 M3 has removable headlamp lenses by design, thus there is no baking or silicone just clips and a gasket. I have done about half a dozen Halo kits in these cars so I know for sure, I am not speculating.
4. JB Weld is not the only thing holding them together now because there is none!
5. There are alignment tabs that I use to reassemble the tails in the proper position including screws that can ONLY fit one way.
6.I don't know what silicone you use, but as a sealing agent for these tails its perfect, just like sealing headlamps.
Please Do Not Start Bashing a Product or Process You Know Nothing About!
1. Having a red reflector is the law. Dont think anyone would really have much of a problem with these taillights, there is still a clear reflector and the brake lights are still red when lit. If anyone concerned were interested you could pick a combo with red in it or you get red reflectors and install them somewhere in the bumper like the TSX or the Lexus pictured above.
2. There is NO JB WELD. The taillights are cut open and resealed with automotive grade silicone. The also have screws in them holding pieces together and in place. They are not "pulled apart" like headlamps. There is also no epoxy.
3. The headlamps are NOT "designed" to be opened so there is no comparison between the two, just different assembly methods from Honda. If they were "designed" to be pulled apart then there would be replacement pieces which there aren't. An E46 M3 has removable headlamp lenses by design, thus there is no baking or silicone just clips and a gasket. I have done about half a dozen Halo kits in these cars so I know for sure, I am not speculating.
4. JB Weld is not the only thing holding them together now because there is none!
5. There are alignment tabs that I use to reassemble the tails in the proper position including screws that can ONLY fit one way.
6.I don't know what silicone you use, but as a sealing agent for these tails its perfect, just like sealing headlamps.
Please Do Not Start Bashing a Product or Process You Know Nothing About!
12-28-2006, 02:35 PM
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Price for the conversion is going to be $95 for the service or $300 for a whole new set if I am supplying the tails. There will be a core charge for factory tails from an 04-06 if I am supplying both sets. Anything custom beyond the options with factory pieces will be an additional charge. i.e. Body color matched frame. Price regarding that will be discussed with individual customers at time of purchase or through PMs. Paint codes will be needed also. All prices are plus shipping.
12-28-2006, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 06WDPTL
Price for the conversion is going to be $95 for the service or $300 for a whole new set if I am supplying the tails. There will be a core charge for factory tails from an 04-06 if I am supplying both sets. Anything custom beyond the options with factory pieces will be an additional charge. i.e. Body color matched frame. Price regarding that will be discussed with individual customers at time of purchase or through PMs. Paint codes will be needed also. All prices are plus shipping.
Thanks in advanced
12-28-2006, 03:52 PM
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06WDPTL...when you have a chance, can you post pics of the tailights on your TL (day and night) with the lights on, off, and brakes applied. Thanks mann.
12-28-2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ua6spec
So the price $95 is that per tail lamp that you need to dissasemble? OR $95 for everything if I supply you the 06 and 07 tail lamp?
Thanks in advanced
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12-28-2006, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Juiced_Acura_Kidd
06WDPTL...when you have a chance, can you post pics of the tailights on your TL (day and night) with the lights on, off, and brakes applied. Thanks mann.
12-28-2006, 04:05 PM
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so you cut open the taillights instead of baking them open?
you will def have a problem if you do not have a red reflector showing from the rear. in cali, you'll get pulled over within a week, maybe within a month if you are lucky. the reflector needs to be visible from the rear and it has to be red. not a red bulb and not a clear reflector. must be a red reflector.
when you cut the tails open, are you cutting stock silicone or what adhesive are you cutting? is there even an adhesive? i would imagine there would be.
in ding069s defense, i dont think he was bashing the product at all.
nice work 06wdptl, i'm glad someone was the guinea pig on this and it turned out great.
you will def have a problem if you do not have a red reflector showing from the rear. in cali, you'll get pulled over within a week, maybe within a month if you are lucky. the reflector needs to be visible from the rear and it has to be red. not a red bulb and not a clear reflector. must be a red reflector.
when you cut the tails open, are you cutting stock silicone or what adhesive are you cutting? is there even an adhesive? i would imagine there would be.
in ding069s defense, i dont think he was bashing the product at all.
nice work 06wdptl, i'm glad someone was the guinea pig on this and it turned out great.
12-28-2006, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ayethetiense
so you cut open the taillights instead of baking them open?
you will def have a problem if you do not have a red reflector showing from the rear. in cali, you'll get pulled over within a week, maybe within a month if you are lucky. the reflector needs to be visible from the rear and it has to be red. not a red bulb and not a clear reflector. must be a red reflector.
when you cut the tails open, are you cutting stock silicone or what adhesive are you cutting? is there even an adhesive? i would imagine there would be.
in ding069s defense, i dont think he was bashing the product at all.
nice work 06wdptl, i'm glad someone was the guinea pig on this and it turned out great.
you will def have a problem if you do not have a red reflector showing from the rear. in cali, you'll get pulled over within a week, maybe within a month if you are lucky. the reflector needs to be visible from the rear and it has to be red. not a red bulb and not a clear reflector. must be a red reflector.
when you cut the tails open, are you cutting stock silicone or what adhesive are you cutting? is there even an adhesive? i would imagine there would be.
in ding069s defense, i dont think he was bashing the product at all.
nice work 06wdptl, i'm glad someone was the guinea pig on this and it turned out great.
12-28-2006, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 06WDPTL
If you supply the taillamps it will cost you 95$ plus shipping, unless you want something custom done.
Thanks!
12-28-2006, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ua6spec
Sounds good. And what is your turn around time on these puppy? Only custom item I want to do is to smoke out the clear lens inside the signal.
Thanks!
Thanks!
12-30-2006, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by XjoEnX
that's some incredible work, i cant wait to see that red chrome piece installed on someones TL
12-30-2006, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 06WDPTL
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1. Having a red reflector is the law. Dont think anyone would really have much of a problem with these taillights, there is still a clear reflector and the brake lights are still red when lit. If anyone concerned were interested you could pick a combo with red in it or you get red reflectors and install them somewhere in the bumper like the TSX or the Lexus pictured above.
2. There is NO JB WELD. The taillights are cut open and resealed with automotive grade silicone. The also have screws in them holding pieces together and in place. They are not "pulled apart" like headlamps. There is also no epoxy.
3. The headlamps are NOT "designed" to be opened so there is no comparison between the two, just different assembly methods from Honda. If they were "designed" to be pulled apart then there would be replacement pieces which there aren't. An E46 M3 has removable headlamp lenses by design, thus there is no baking or silicone just clips and a gasket. I have done about half a dozen Halo kits in these cars so I know for sure, I am not speculating.
4. JB Weld is not the only thing holding them together now because there is none!
5. There are alignment tabs that I use to reassemble the tails in the proper position including screws that can ONLY fit one way.
6.I don't know what silicone you use, but as a sealing agent for these tails its perfect, just like sealing headlamps.
Please Do Not Start Bashing a Product or Process You Know Nothing About!
1. Having a red reflector is the law. Dont think anyone would really have much of a problem with these taillights, there is still a clear reflector and the brake lights are still red when lit. If anyone concerned were interested you could pick a combo with red in it or you get red reflectors and install them somewhere in the bumper like the TSX or the Lexus pictured above.
2. There is NO JB WELD. The taillights are cut open and resealed with automotive grade silicone. The also have screws in them holding pieces together and in place. They are not "pulled apart" like headlamps. There is also no epoxy.
3. The headlamps are NOT "designed" to be opened so there is no comparison between the two, just different assembly methods from Honda. If they were "designed" to be pulled apart then there would be replacement pieces which there aren't. An E46 M3 has removable headlamp lenses by design, thus there is no baking or silicone just clips and a gasket. I have done about half a dozen Halo kits in these cars so I know for sure, I am not speculating.
4. JB Weld is not the only thing holding them together now because there is none!
5. There are alignment tabs that I use to reassemble the tails in the proper position including screws that can ONLY fit one way.
6.I don't know what silicone you use, but as a sealing agent for these tails its perfect, just like sealing headlamps.
Please Do Not Start Bashing a Product or Process You Know Nothing About!
i just hope however you mended them back together is strong enough, that's all.
but like i said, what you did looks good and you are offering your services at a reasonable price. you are def an asset of acurazine, just make sure you talk to the mods about becoming a vendor or else you will be in trouble.
12-31-2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ding069
i wasn't bashing your product or process. it looks like you do good work! I have just looked at my stock tails, and they are sealed and cannot be taken apart without cutting, correct? Now, when you or I cut something, like plastic, you greatly lower the integrity/strength of the piece. The area that i see sealant around, in your pics has had to be cut......there is no way around it.
i just hope however you mended them back together is strong enough, that's all.
but like i said, what you did looks good and you are offering your services at a reasonable price. you are def an asset of acurazine, just make sure you talk to the mods about becoming a vendor or else you will be in trouble.
i just hope however you mended them back together is strong enough, that's all.
but like i said, what you did looks good and you are offering your services at a reasonable price. you are def an asset of acurazine, just make sure you talk to the mods about becoming a vendor or else you will be in trouble.
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Sorry for the delay I am trying to swap out the second driver side tail I got for a new pass. side tail with another member not to far from me.
01-09-2007, 07:23 AM
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UPDATE!
I just spoke with Tim and he is going to get me a taillight by the end of the week so I can finish this weekend and the prototype will be delivered next week.
I just spoke with Tim and he is going to get me a taillight by the end of the week so I can finish this weekend and the prototype will be delivered next week.
01-09-2007, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 06WDPTL
UPDATE!
I just spoke with Tim and he is going to get me a taillight by the end of the week so I can finish this weekend and the prototype will be delivered next week.
I just spoke with Tim and he is going to get me a taillight by the end of the week so I can finish this weekend and the prototype will be delivered next week.