Well if it doesnt rain you can count on me going to the drag strip with this car. Ill being going with a buddy who has a modded out Civic SI like a 07 or 08, its damn quick... Ill get some HD Video of this. Ill post it on here.

Guess some E.T.s mine is going to be just cracking into the thirteens

 

can't wait to see the vids!!

 

My guess...14.2 @ 98

 

13.8 @ 105 mph

 

When are you going? Can't wait to see some #'s!

 

Cant wait to see the vids, is that all your mods in the sig?

Good take off: 13.9 -14.1
Bad take off: 14.3 - 14.5

its all in your TL, the weight off the wheels, and the car lol and everything else, but cant wait.

 

Opps i forgot to mention it will be tomorrow

 

Tomorrow?? Nice!

I was gonna say high 13s but I thought you had precat deletes..I'm going to say 14.11 @ 100.5

And if the Civic SI has bolt ons (I/RH/E) I'm gonna say 14.2 @100 and if Hondata too 14.0 @102.

 

STEP AWAY from the crack pipe.

 

^ i agree. if it's your first time with no track experience and u hit a 13.999.........

you a sav.

 

Oh man I wanna see this...my guess 14.05@101.7

 

i wanna play, 14.37 @ 100.4

 

Gonna be some great track temps this afternoon, makes me want to go.

 

Are you an auto or 6spd?

 

oops no precats

y not?

 

 

Well as I did go today, I do have to say it was fun. I thought my #s would be better, but there weren't. The guy lining up the cars by the xmas lights said the track was preppered horrible, and everyones times werent looking where they should be. I dont know if that would be applying to me because i have a front wheel drive car that doesnt spin the tires. Im not sure, im not a drag race guy, maybe it just effects cars that have the tires spin. I dunno... Anyway here are my slips, the earliest time was with traction control on, there otheres were with it off. Each time I held the brake and stepped on the gas untill the light turned green... All in all it was fun, guess it will be more fun when the turbo comes out. But here are my slips and ill get the videos up later. ANd yes the civic si had a shit load of bolt ons and Hondata, very tight race

 

Each time I held the brake and stepped on the gas untill the light turned green

I think that's not a good idea for the TL. If you hold the brake and gas at the same time for too long, the ECU would do something to reduce your power or something like that. I think Dave mentioned it in his 1/4 mile thread. I'd imagine that's why you are not getting much tire spin too (it's ok to spin a little).

It also seems like you have some room for improving your launch. I think you should be able to drop it down to 2.2s for the 60ft.

 

Are you planning on going back? I bet it was fun, though. A quick adrenaline rush.

 

New tranny soon =), some of the new cars don't let you do that anymore.

 

Not bad for your first time

 

 

It sounds like my 07 AV6 5AT is the Accord counterpart to Lazer's TL-S as both my son and I could only muster a 16.3-16.4. As my AV6 feels DEAD off the line (particularly after a brake torque), I think there is some merit to iforyou's statement.

 

How high are you revving while braking?

 

I still think something is up with your accord. My dads 98 AV6 ran faster than that! You should be around a 15.0 at englishtown! At over 3000 elevation I ran a 15.5! at sea level im in the mid-high 14's!

 

there is no BS to i for you's statement. The Honda/Acura V6's do not respond well to brake torquing!. It loads the torque converter but bogs off the line unlike the maxima/altima V6 which respond well to a brake torque. The best result for honda/acura automatic V6's is just to slam the gas with no brake torque. Brake torques yeild 2.3-2.4 60fts. Non brake torque can yeild 2.2 easy!

 

Brake torquing can produce a 2.000 in a CL-S

 

there is a difference between a stock CL-S and one that has FI or Nitrous! No stock CL-S will be achieving a 2.0 60ft lol or a 13.3 for that matter!

 

Well since no FI or Nitrous 5AT CL-S has been able to beat that number... I'm not too confident in the theory that brake torquing "causes something in the ECU to reduce power"

I've tried both methods with similar results.

 

Did you leave it in full auto mode of were you maxing out the gears? Sometimes when i floor it in auto mode my car shifts at 6k rpms in first

 

I was using the sport-shift mode at the track.

 

I have tried both methods and just slamming the gas with no brake torque provides better results. It is that way with every honda/Acura V6 auto that I have seen.

The results you showed were that of a FI CL-S. Can't compare that to all motor. 2.0 should be pretty easy w/FI if you can manage little wheelspin which is almost impossible with FWD.

 

Honestly, a 98 Accord F23A 5MT can post a quicker time than 16.3. Granted, I haven't gone back to the track with since that time (some two years ago). Maybe things will 'come together' for it next time. Seeing as I'm always busy nowadays (careerwise) I'll have my son bring it down to Etown sometime in the next month or so.

 

True! Those F23A 5MT are decently quick.

Let me know the results w/ the accord at the track when your son goes! Won't touch his 14.1!

 

I guess you never saw mine.

I'm not trying to offend you, but I don't think you know what you're talking about. Most people that posted here had their short times increase when they went supercharged because of wheel spin. "Wheel spin impossible with FWD"

 

what I was trying to say which I guess you didn't understand was that you would acheive a better time with less wheelspin. More wheelspin won't achieve a better 60ft time. With FWD its Hard not to spin with FI.

 

No wheel spin at all on the 2.0 run. I was running on all-season tires at the time too. Correct track prep, tire pressure, and throttle modulation can result in excellent short times. Before adding the blower my times were 2.1-2.2 fairly consistently.

 

nice 60fts!

 

well, I got that from Dave B,

"...1-second should be enough time to build enough rpm to match the stall speed. Holding the brake longer to generate a little more launch rpm really isn't worthwhile because the chances are you'll build too much heat in the tranny and loose the efficiency. Additionally, a lot of late model cars have torque management systems that kill power if you do this technique for a prolonged period."

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/drag-racing-tips-635906/

I don't know how long is "prolonged," but I'd imagine there could be some sort of sensor to monitor the torque converter fluid and make sure that it's not overheating? If it's showing signs of overheating (or rapid temperature increase), the ECU would then kill power? I mean, heck, if you brake torque the 4G TL Sh-AWD, the automatic transmission would launch in 2nd gear, even if you put it in 1st, as shown in a video posted by one of our members here. New cars nowadays do some "funny" stuff.

 

Well that's why I asked how long he was doing it for. You don't need to even start doing it until the other car is staged.