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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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Does your TL do good in the snow?

We are getting A LOT of snow here in Ohio. Just went to the store a little bit ago & was surprised that the TL did as good as it did on these horrible roads.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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as long as you have either snow tires or really good A/S tires, it handles just fine.

although I typically drive with VSA turned off because I like to feather the gas as I see fit in the snow. When I still had my automatic '05, I actually couldn't get up a hill with light snow on it due to VSA utterly killing the power to both wheels. My car almost started to go backwards until I turned off VSA and got it up the hill myself.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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Yes, mine does a good job. I've got Continental DWS tires.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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Pretty much all 6MTs with good snow tires will do very well in snow. Limited slip diff on a FWD.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by i_love_cars
as long as you have either snow tires or really good A/S tires, it handles just fine.

although I typically drive with VSA turned off because I like to feather the gas as I see fit in the snow. When I still had my automatic '05, I actually couldn't get up a hill with light snow on it due to VSA utterly killing the power to both wheels. My car almost started to go backwards until I turned off VSA and got it up the hill myself.
Just bought the car a couple of days ago. It came with brand new sumotomos, i believe is how you spell it? Ive never heard of them but they did a pretty good job, and thanks for the tip
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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No matter what winter tires you have - if the roads are bad, the roads are bad.

I have brand new Blizzak LM-60s





Pulled over to see if this woman was okay and ended up going in myself.



Look at the road! It doesn't look that bad! But I guess the car slid right after it hit the dirty snow.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by i_love_cars
as long as you have either snow tires or really good A/S tires, it handles just fine.

although I typically drive with VSA turned off because I like to feather the gas as I see fit in the snow. When I still had my automatic '05, I actually couldn't get up a hill with light snow on it due to VSA utterly killing the power to both wheels. My car almost started to go backwards until I turned off VSA and got it up the hill myself.
Gotta turn off the VSA to get up some hills! I'm running 4.5 year old Bridgestone Potenza 760's with about 30-35k in the winter but they're almost done. Think I'll try the Pirelli P Zero Nero's next winter.

It's a decent car in the snow. Not great, but not horrible.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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i dont drive during winter because of how badly my TL performs. It doesn't help that i live in an area with a lot of hills and no plows go through here.

Utah has the best snow for the mountains, not the valleys.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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I have the Pirelli Carving Edge on my TL here in Toronto.

Haven't had much snow this year but the tires are 4 years old and have seen approx. 50km/30k miles and still maintain control.

I always turn VSA off in the snow like other Azine members, I find it dangerous at times as well because of the immense power loss.

Hope there wasn't much damage to the car guitarplayer.

Other than purposely accelerating/decelerating aggressively, for me, the car rarely slides unless driving on a lot of snow/ice.
But no matter the vehicle or tire, as guitarplayer said, if the roads are bad enough, nothing can help it.

I don't know about you 6mt guys, but my dad used to have an AT 3G and I found his ABS didn't go off as often as did my 6mt.
Would anyone agree that maybe the Brembos would trip the ABS faster because of its better stopping power? - In the snow
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 11:16 PM
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My 2006 TL

does well in the winter, not just good.
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 11:53 PM
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Drove in the snow for the first time today with the TL, did well like I figured it would since it is a FWD.

Only problem I had is where not many cars have gone and the snow was higher then the TL....still pulled through like a boss, Though I agree VSA sometimes makes it worse.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul05TL
Drove in the snow for the first time today with the TL, did well like I figured it would since it is a FWD.

Only problem I had is where not many cars have gone and the snow was higher then the TL....still pulled through like a boss, Though I agree VSA sometimes makes it worse.
hey what tires are you running? because i'm not doing so well in this snow haha. especially when i drive up to brighton.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 12:13 AM
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Mine does alright, it has summer tires which doesn't help. I try to stay off the roads during snow storms ever since I sold my truck, but if I need to be somewhere the TL does just fine for what it is.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 12:30 AM
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mine does very well, got michelin Xi2's.
and i can promise you that we get ALOT more snow in Edmonton than anywhere else.
but again, like guitarplayer16 said, if the roads are bad, they're bad.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Phambam12
hey what tires are you running? because i'm not doing so well in this snow haha. especially when i drive up to brighton.
I am running Tiger Paw GTZ All Season's, they were on the car when I purchased it and were only a few months old at that. Still are practically new with only about 3k miles.

Car did great this morning when I headed to work out in Ogden, while there though the snow built up and that is where It was at some points higher then the car lol but still did well. Did great on the way home as well just had an issue with getting up my driveway It was all icy and slightly up hill and VSA slowed my momentum but once VSA was off I got up just fine.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 12:43 AM
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 01:50 AM
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Damn so much snow! I never get to see that in SoCal! I'm curious to see how it feels driving in snow. I mean I have driven on some mountains here that had snow but its not much only a bit. All we get here is sunshine and clear skies all the time lol. I mean its December right now and it wasn't even that cold.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 01:55 AM
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Gotta turn off the VSA to get up some hills! I'm running 4.5 year old Bridgestone Potenza 760's with about 30-35k in the winter but they're almost done. Think I'll try the Pirelli P Zero Nero's next winter.

It's a decent car in the snow. Not great, but not horrible.
I have the P zero's there not bad at all
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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We had a snow storm here last night. About 12" of snow. The car handled fine. I have Blizzak LM-60's also. But the roads are plowed though.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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You guys your TLs in the snow...silly boys and girls.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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Mine does with factory tired, even in mountain passes where other cars would drive off road. The point is to drive slow and stead, I'm no expert drive but I never had problems.
Only time it did slide on me was once downhill but it was my fault totally daydreaming or something I braked hard and yea it slid, luckily no car was coming and I just turned and kept going.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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My TL does OK in the winter. I'm running Pirelli Sottozeros and for the most part I have no issues. Surprisingly, my Integra GS did way better in the snow than my TL. It was a great little car in the winter.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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Mine does great in the snow! It sits in my nice garage, all covered up with the battery tender on it!
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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Here's my .02cents.

Location: MN
Years driven in snow: 5+ years
Tire: All Season Potenza RE960's 80k miles AND Cooper Weathermaster ST/2

After 5 years of Potenza A/S tires the car handles on a scale of 1 - 10, a 4 even in light snow conditions.

After my 1.25years on the Cooper Snow tires - car handles around a 7-8 out of 10. The difference is night and day.

Just use your brain and leave plenty of stopping distance and you will do fine. Tires is what grips the roads. So tread carefully.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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i have continental DWS's and so far so good.

Havent even bothered swapping to my winter wheels.....yet
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Been running all weathers just fine... But it is Salt Lake. Its not really the worst winters but certain roads can be bad. I find that careful driving and close observation of the road surface can do wonders. To be fair I used to drive around in Logan Utah and the weather there was bad but I still did just fine...
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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i have the Blizzak LM-60s and dont feel too confident in them even though they have pretty much full tread.

before, i had the general altimax arctics and they were unstoppable.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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I'm running the Dunlop Wintersport M3's and they are pretty good. But again, whenever it snows, I take it slowly and the car cruises through snow. I tell everyone the same thing....even with snow tires, you'll have to take it slow. A lot of people think having snow tires mean they can speed in snow....
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 05:20 PM
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Im just curious in the first pic how long were they shopping for for the car to get snowed in like that

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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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lol i had those blizzak lm60's on my grand prix gxp they are horrible i will never buy blizzak again on my 05 tl i have kuhmo snow tires i forgot what there called but they are a beast was going in a foot of snow like it was nothing!
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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The VSA was on all day today in the turns. You really can't get stuck or spin out unless you're not used to winter driving.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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Next time I'm gonna skip the "performance" winter tires such as Blizzak LM-60s or Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3s and get something like X-Ice.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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Performance is all relative to driving performance and tires.
Can't break physics.
Like GP said, if the roads are bad... then it's bad.
Just gotta remind yourself to take it slow. And that means slower driving, slower lane changes. Can't forget about early de-acceleration followed by early braking.


@GP, totally forgot that happened to you!
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 01:51 AM
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Fuck no.

I was hitting vsa all day today driving around slushy Toronto.

Vsa gets really annoying.
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 06:54 AM
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I have the I-pike snow tires on mines and the she does great during winter. (MN here) But like some members had said. Even with snow tires you should still: take it slow and granny it because black ice is what get's the best of everyone that drives fast in the Winter time.
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 07:30 AM
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I have had my General Altimax Arctic's for several seasons now. Been the best bang for the buck for winter tires. I have had blizzaks and whatnot on previous cars. These tires win so far.

Just checked tirerack -- looks like they are sold out for the season already.
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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So should you be driving with VSA on or off during snow/slush conditions?


Thanks, Alex.
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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^^^if you have hill to climb then yes.
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Deerole
Im just curious in the first pic how long were they shopping for for the car to get snowed in like that

they were probably at work, i had to go take the snow off my car/ shovel around it 4 times that day during my 8 hour shift.
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