I'm wondering with all the design defects/problems, does Acura fix things mide year, or just wait for the next model year? (ie. the horn, vibration, trim, and everything else listed on the site!)

 

When you speak of ACURA ,do you mean your dealership ,or ACURA CORP?


There have been many complaint's as you've mentioned . Vibration, rattles' ect . These are as many have stated here little annoyances that most likely could be taken care of with a bolt,screw or other and the dealership should take care of it.

The tires have been said to cause the vibration... if enough people complain that may be something ACURA corp will consider fixing ,however since it is not a safety issue I tend to doubt it.

To replace 4 tires would cost atleast 1000.00 each and on all the cars' that would be quite expensive ,if you consider the tranny issue's from all the following years that IS an actual safety issue and the fact that there was an extended warrenty ,well I am sure the dollar amount was up there too ,however no recall was done,even though there were three accident's due to tranny failure and many ,many people complained of near accident's ,still they did not issue a recall,it was wait till your tranny goe's and if it does bring it in and we'll fix it; if you get in an accident they hope like XXXX there are no fatality's cause that would be really,,,, EXPENSIVE.

Still even if there were a fatality the settlement of 1,000,000 to the family' or family's would still be the cheapest route~!


So what do you think their going to do about the tires?


I was told by a manager ,on the 04 to get rid of the tires' that they were no good ,I told him I had heard that ..

he does' not know about this forum ,well he didn't then .

 

I hate to say it, but new tires would cost about $500!
If this involved Acura replacing them, it would cost them a fraction of that.
The tires that come on the car, are junk... They're the same kind that came on my WRX; lasted less than 10000 miles, and didn't perform well! I bet people that got the car with summer tires aren't having these problems!

 

Are you serious? your tires only lasted 10,000 miles? and they are the same ones on the TL? were you doing smoke shows, or are they really that bad?
the tires on my honda accord are done now, but they gave me about 45,000 miles

 

Actually, that is the norm for high performance tires. If you make the rubber soft and grippy, the tradeoff is that they wear more quickly. If you make the rubber hard so that it wears longer, the downside is less traction.

On the Mustangs I used to have, I usually got an average of 10,000 miles out of a set of Gatorbacks (the range was 8,000 - 12,000 miles).

 

You're absolutely right about high performance tires lasting very little... Unfortunately the factory tires on the WRX were just plain old crap!

 

Guys! lower performance that expected from a tire is not a warranty defect. If the tire gets bulges, fails or oher problems you may get warranty relief. Nobody is going to replace tires because they dont grip as well as they should or they have a minimal vibration at 50mph. Unless you can prove a structural deficiency in the tire you get to keep it and replace at your own cost.

 

well said vtech...boy oh boy, people are really going overboard on this site lately. The Turanza's should easily get 40,000 miles, and there is obviously nothing wrong with the inherent design of the tire.

 

Unbalancable tires are defective. Period. If they can't keep balance, that's a strong indicator of a structural deficiency! Unbalanced, vibrating tires are not safe. They run hotter than normal. They cause unusual stresses on themselves and all the bits that they are shaking. That's why we balance them.

I'm going to keep on Acura until my tires don't vibrate. And it's going to be at their expense, not mine.

Mike

 

This may well be true, but there may be something inherently wrong with their application to the TL.

More likely in my mind, Honda may have received a batch of tires with a manufacturing defect (defective belts, for instance, can make tires impossible to balance) rather than a design defect.

If the wheels/tires are received as an assembly, there could be a bad balancing machine at the subcontractor who mounts the tires to the wheels. Or maybe that process was being done wrong and the tires were compromised.

There's a lot of things this could be, and it's up to Acura to figure it out. It's up to the owners who are experiencing the problem(s) to keep on them. The more data we provide, the better the chances of getting a solution.

Mike