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Yes all 6 speed 3rd gen. TL's come with brembos. ANd so does the auto. type-s.

 

yes....and a bigger rear sway bar if Im not mistaken

 

unless, whoever owned it changed it. but yea most have brembos. oh yea, not to mention LSD and lighter weight because of the transmission. 6MT FTW!

 

word!

 

And a more aggressive suspension and an LSD (Limited Slip Differential) and a different final drive ratio (higher than the automatic).

 

You are correct sir.

 

Is the ride height lower than AT as well?

 

Ride height should be the same, unless from factory they came with the a-spec suspension. Some one correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Exactly.

 

I'd also like to add

Automatic transmissions are heavier than the manual transmission and on all automatic models there are some vibration absorbing blocks placed around the engine compartment which also add weight. I know there is one located towards the front bumper. It looks like a brick to be exact.

 

To elaborate on a few of the posts, and referring to the '07 TL/TL-S:

The 6 M/T is only available in the TL-S

The weight difference between the 6 M/T and the 5 A/T is 115 lbs. w/Nav
Some of this weight difference in due to the fact that the M/T requires 1% more capacity in the cooling system, and the fact that the A/T's overall length is .5" longer, which means you get more car for your money. 5 A/T FTW

The final drive ratio on the A/T is 4.312, vs. 3.285 for the M/T

IMO, I do not consider the Brembos to have any advantages. They dust horribly, do not offer any superior stopping power than others in the same class, and they wear out quickly.

To the O.P........you may have noticed a little friendly sparring between the the M/T, and the A/T owners.......we're just funnin'

 

Those "bricks" are probably there to absorb the torque steer from all that power trying to reach the ground lol !

 

manual have a more aggressive suspension???

 

www.hondanews.com

http://www.hondanews.com/categories/...s?archive=2006

http://www.hondanews.com/categories/735/releases/2826

 

I just got to work and haven't had my coffee yet and read that subject VERY wrong. I was going to ask,

"Why wouldn't it come with all 6-speeds? Are that some that only come with 5 of the 6 speeds?"

UGH Fridays!

 

To clarify the point here that maybe some of you didn't realize...

1st model
Year: 2004
Model: Dynamic
Equipment: 6sp manual, bigger rear sway bar, brembos (all factory)
Option: A-Spec Wheels, Body Kit & Navigation System


2nd model
Year: 2005-2006
Model: A-SPEC
Equipment:6sp manual,A-SPEC Suspensions, A-Spec body & wheels (18), bigger sway bar and brembos
Options: AspecWheels(19), Navigation System

3rd model
Year: 2007-2008
Model: Type-S
Equipment: 6sp manual, A-SPEC Suspensions, A-Spec body & Type S wheels (18), bigger sway bar, brembos and Navigation system (all factory)

I hope it clarifies many gray spot (maybe I missed some factory parts or options)

FYI *** Based on canadian models at that time!

 

Some addittions/corrections for US; can't comment on the Canadian, as I'm not familiar with specific offerings.

 

All I know is that at 3,000 rpms in 6th im at 88. 30mpg @ 85mph road trips. Love this car.

Just for reference my previous cars.

'08 STi - 75mph in 6th @ 3,000
'02 RSX-S 66mph in 6th @ 3,000
'02 S2000 - 62mph in 6th @ 3,000....4k at 70 LOL fail.

 

in 07-08, were there any base models that came in 6MT? (With or Without NAV?)

 

No base models in 07-08 came with a 6MT. if you wanted an 6MT you would have to pick up the TL-S.

 

OMG. So I found a site that had all kinds of specs (http://www.new-cars.com/2004/acura/acura-tl-specs.html) and took the gear ratios from a 6mt '04 and put them into this calculator....look at the gearing limited top speed of 6th....


Kind of want that turbo and some weight reduction and the salt flats haha.

 

Seems like nobody is too sure about the 6mt tl's...well to start off i have a canadian 2005 acura tl "dynamic" w/ navi...no a spec (although i wish i did)...2004-2006 are all the same 6mt...as well as 2007-2008 type s! Dynamic (or Sport) FTW!!!

 

^ you just said what others have relayed in this thread but your information is a lot harder to understand.

 

In the 6MT, every gear is a LOT shorter than the 5AT counterpart, but the Final drive is actually longer.

http://www.new-cars.com/2004/acura/acura-tl-specs.html

Even with the longer final drivel, the 6MT's gears are a lot shorter than the Auto's. This means there is considerably more torque available in every gear. On top of that it's just so much fun to drive.

Here is the speed and torque comparison at redline in each gear:

04TL--- 6MT----5AT----6MT's Torque Advantage
1st-----40------45-----12.5%
2nd-----63------75-----19.1%
3rd-----92------113----22.8%
4th-----125-----174----39.2%
5th-----160-----241----50.6%
6th-----203------------18.7% over 5AT's 5th

 

And jealousy raises it's ugly head! lol funnin' only goes so far!

 

Those torque numbers can be misleading as there's only a 3-5% difference in straight line performance between the auto and manual.

Base manuals got larger front and rear swaybars, same shocks and springs.

TL-S obviously got a solid front bar and a larger rear bar over the base manual.

Freeway mileage was rated about the same between the auto and manual despite the auto's extra weight and hydraulic pump. This is because of the taller overall OD ratio.

Where Honda failed in both the auto and manual is using 2 overdrive gears. Why not have a close ratio 5 speed manual with only 6th as the OD?

Same with the auto. Why have two overdrives? Run a close ratio 4 speed and then 5th as the .5:1 OD. This is why the auto falls off so badly in 4th. 4th gear overall ratio is taller in the auto than the manual's 5th gear.

 

I don't think it's jealousy. He's right about the brakes. The auto stops just as short, even shorter in some tests. The Brembos only offer an advantage on the track with lots of repeated hard stops. Around town you'll stop just as quick or quicker with the 5at brakes. However, we all know the disadvantages of the Brembos. My stock 5at brakes were not even halfway worn down when I upgraded to 13" Rotoras at 90,000 miles.

And come on, we're talking about a TL here. They're 95% the same car and they're all slow.

 

Not so. Sorry if you don't want the intended humor.
I've owned both the 6 m/t, and 5 a/t, and I made a choice. Could have had either one. Have no regrets

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