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No, the only one I've seen was 102-104mph. They absolutely will not trap close to 110mph.

MPH does not win races. I don't know where you come from or what kind of cars you race but to make up .6 seconds in 60' time on a 13 second car requires nearly 100 extra hp to break even. It requires much more hp to make up the difference as the cars get faster.

If you want to go fast, you risk breaking stuff. That's racing. No one knows at what point the TL clutch and axles fail at because no one has pushed it hard yet.

It would be a sin to run street tires on my GN for example. What good is all the power when I can't put the pedal to the floor until 70mph? Plus, that's what a drag race is, 1/4 mile from a dead stop. The ricers invented roll racing because they couldn't hook instead of trying to fix the problem. Again, the OP asked what it would take to beat a 13.0 quarter and a TL is not beating that on non-drag radial tires with less than a 200 shot of nitrous. I would rather be hard on the clutch and axles than the motor.

WRXtranceformed

Yeahhh, Dr. Evil is what my search turned up but I must not have read much into it to see where his shit was causing catastrophic failures haha. There were a few companies in the IS world that did valvebody work and offered electronic shift kit modules that worked pretty well. The TL community needs a company like that to step it up, those are cheap easy ways to firm up shifts and prepare your tranny for big power!

CBP TL-S

Dragtimes has two supercharged TL's trapping 107.xx, with no intercooler and no pre-cat deletes. get a better tune up the boost there both only on 5psi, easily 110.
I'm sure we'll get to see sometime in the future.

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I would like to see a fast TL. Hopefully they get it together. Still, if they hit 110mph and a 12.9, wouldn't a 12.4@ 110mph be nicer?

CBP TL-S

I would as well

Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't be any more impressed with one than another, one spun, the other didn't.

korrupted

Maybe this car can, claims 360hp http://www.modifiedcartrader.com/sea...ra_TL_Type%20S

adrian_04tl

[QUOTE=hollandca12]Not unless you are racing downhill with a 30mph tail wind.[/QUOT

and the wind only blowing on the TL side of the road.

iforyou

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I hate car, there's a CL guy with comptech stuff that did 13.4@108mph:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194712

So theoretically I think the TL is capable of that too.

bent09

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nice DOHC

bent09

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I ran 13.335 in a cl. I will try and dig up the time slip. That was on 125 shot.

Eoanou

ROFLMAO, I know that TL, can't believe he's selling it, lol. 37K miles for $36,000 is overpriced for an '07.

Anyway there is no way that car has anywhere close to 360hp at the crank, its not much faster than my TL, and its been in several accidents as well.

xejshinex

my question was could any 3g "TL/TLS" with mod can beat 13.0 1/4 mile , not that I want to get crazy mods on my TL
if i wanted to get a faster car, I would've had 135i with vishnu stage2 ecu upgrade which gives 135i less than 4.2 second on 93 octane, and less than 12.2 sec @ 114+plus mph

even stock 135i is fast as new m3 coupe(not that I'm sayin it's faster than e92 m3, I'm sayin it's about in a same range)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D0uw2W_94PI

SporkLover

Maybe not out of a TL... but there are plenty of folks who pulled a 1.8 out of the Supercharged WBodies (Grand Prix, Regal, Monte Carlo, Impala)..... I know of a guy who would regularly pull consistent 1.8 60ft's with his GTP on stock Eagle RSA's. Granted thats not with stock power.... but definitely no suspension, drivetrain, or drag radial mods.......

Cocoa

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Yes it can. But you have to be willing to take the extra steps in doing so. Otherwise, no.

anx1300c

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Something is up there. Every test I've seen has the M3 at 12.7@111-112 and the 135 at 13.3-13.4@105-106. The 135 should be a hair faster than a 335, but that M3 should've trounced it.

ssmtl2nv

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im confident that the tl can do 13's. The other day I fucked around with a g37 type s 6 speed and I smoked the shit out of him. I am auto s/c with all possible mods and it wasnt even fair. they come with 330 from the factory.

BEAR-AvHistory

Watch the tachs. The 135 driver is a lot better then the M3 driver. The M3 driver made mistakes on almost all of the shifts.

I have driven both cars & the M3 is quicker, you just have to use the full 8,000+ rev range because the torque & power comes on very far up the rev range a lot like the TL. The 135 turbo is cranking out major torque numbers as low as 1500rpm.

That being said the 135 is a great value in relative performance compared to the M3.

BEAR-AvHistory

Do it at the track & it will mean something.

There are two many variables in screwing around on the street. Another guy in another G-37 could have just as easily blown you into the weeds.

One guy here has consistently posted time slips & vids of his street modified TL 6MT - exhaust, intake, etc - IIRC he won all the races he posted time slips/vids for.

The best ET so far was a 13.99 while most are in the very low 14's & his 60 foot times are very good.

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Agreed. My 13 second car back in the old days that dead hooked on the street took down many 11 and 12 second cars redlight to redlight. The track is the only way to know what you run.

BEAR-AvHistory

Its funny how fast everybody is in their own minds then they wonder what was wrong the first time they went against the clocks.

Saw more then one post here from guys asking what that were doing wrong when their street modified TL 's would post mid to upper 14's at the track.

The answer is nothing was wrong thats what they run in real life.

Way to many guys take the performance base line for the TL from the best magazine article they can find.

Then the do their mods & expect/claim that they are .5 better without ever having been to the track to establish a before modification base line.

What they don't understand is the magazine numbers can't be reached buy a non-professional driver who is unwilling to abuse the hell out of their car.

Also going back to the bad old days it was pretty common for the factories to slip the magazines a ringer & the magazine to turn a blind eye if they could get a real good number for their cover story.

The most famous one was the 1965 Pontiac 389CI GTO (really a modified 421CI) that Car & Driver ran against the Ferrari GTO in a cover story.

I ran a 66 389 Tri-Power Ram Air GTO for a local Pontiac dealer with the same kit (The Royal Bobcat package) developed by Pontiac special projects guys & quietly released as a 3rd party mod through Royal Pontiac in Royal Oak Michigan.

Although the car was a consistent winner at Englishtown Raceway Park in NJ it was never close to equaling the "factory" magazine test car.

CBP TL-S

I used to pull high 1.6's low 1.7's in my old AWD Eclipse with stock drivetrain & performance tires.

If your asking me to believe that a supercharged FWD car with stock 16'' rims & tires can pull a 1.8, your crazy.

Can fwd's pull good 60's of course, but a bare minimum of a nice set of D/R's is required. idc who you are, we all knew it when we decided to purchase a FWD car.

anx1300c

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Still happens today. There's speculation that some of the 335's released for mag testing were running an extra lb or two of boost. Not that that can't be easily accomplished by the aftermarket, but it's still deceptive marketing.

anx1300c

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Infiniti missed the mark badly there. The G35 sedan is actually quicker than the G37 by a tenth or two.

SporkLover

Thats ok... Im not asking you to believe me I've seen it personally and that is good enough for me. Quite amazing purely for the fact the physics hates FWD cars when drag racing.

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A 1.8 is possible with fwd and radials but not the norm. That takes an excellent driver. A lot of the good times are run after tons and tons of practice. My first time ever down the strip was a 16.4. After practice that day and I had at lest 30 runs, I was running consistant 13.9s without changing anything on the car. Every run got a little quicker but had I just gone to the strip and made a couple passes I would've gone home unhappy.

iforyou

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13.9 with your TL? are you serious???

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Sorry. I should've specified 220,000 mile stock GN.

xejshinex

yup you're right, the m3 driver shifted too early in the first gear. of course m3 is faster than 135i, and it has to be, but 135i performs amazingly compare to it's price

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I didn't watch the video but short shifting first gear is common in some cars and actually beneficial.

xejshinex

yea I think you're right. but short shifting in 1st gear is for those cars with maximum hp peak on lower rpm like 335i, 300hp @ 5800 rpm. I wouldn't say 335i, but something like that. but car like M3 has it's maximum 414 hp @ 8300 rpm, but in video the M3 driver shifted around 7500 rpm, which it didn't give the driver the whole 414 horsepower in 1st gear.

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I agree that it's usually for the lower rpm cars.

The only thing I can think of is it might break traction above 7,500 in first. Just speculation. Or maybe the driver just sucked at driving.

SporkLover

Not necessarily..... The car may not be able to keep traction WOT in first gear.

Heh... my old SRT-4 had exactly that problem. I had to half throttle + Short Shift in first to get my best times at the track

BEAR-AvHistory

I have driven one & traction up the rev range is not an issue. It has both a mechanical LSD & electronic traction control. It will chirp into second but hook right up.

I also think he hit the rev limiter in two gears.