Ummm, i been debating... Their is 2 cold air intake setups available for the 04 TL at the current time. AEM has been saying coming soon for the longest while, i got fed up and bought the INJEN. However the INJEN dynoed at 11 extra whp. The AEM is supposedly suppose to give 19.5whp. I find it hard to believe that a cold air mod would actually give that much. I went with the INJEN and bought a AEM air-bypass for it. Should i have waited, or did i do the right thing...is the dyno for the AEM that much different? thanks

 

did you dyno it yourself? where'd you get the 11whp from? injen?

 

I am waiting for the AEM CAI in either the regular version or the V2, they have always been super reliable parts, and I had heared that injen was experiencing some issues, and it is supposedly dynoing higher than the injen and all other intakes, so I will continue to wait..

 

I really dont think that there should be that much of a diffrence between Injen and AEM, there's no way that you can get a 8hp diffrence from the two brand. It still use the same technology... piping and a filter, there shouldn't be that much diffrence.... 1 or 2hp at that.

 

INJEN give about 11.8 whp, while AEM says like 19.5whp which is a big difference. As you said i doubt there is much difference, probably each company's test conditions are different. The piping consist of aluminum in both companies and the bends look identical, i doubt there can be that much difference, then again AEM is known as one of the best intakes since they did a review and it gave the 02rsx-s about 21 whp which i find most amazing.

 

All i know is that im keeping my money for the AEM, and im in no rush to get it.

 

i don't think you can get 11 or 19 whp from an intake. those gains sound too remarkable to be true. unless the TL's intake was very restrictive and flawed to begin with gains like that are probably not gonna happen. the TL's intake is somewhat of a cold air intake already and is designed relatively well.

 

I think you will be lucky to even acheive 10 extra hp from the INJEN or AEM systems. More like 3-8 real hp to the wheels.

 

ive had the injen in my car for about a month now, and i guess you can say theres a little bit of gain, but nothin spectacular... i put it in for the sound, which im pleased with. after about 3grand, then can growls pretty damn loud... so if it is gain u are looking for.... dont turn toward a CAI... do some exhaust work, or internal engine mods

 

i upgraded both the exhaust and the intake and havent really noticed much of a difference. as ive mentioned about 15 times before, i did the exhaust more for the tone than any performance...but in any event....the TL still seems the same as stock. i know when i had an integra and i built the exhaust and intake for it i noticed a huge difference...i wasnt quite expecting it to mimic that increase....but it fell somewhat short of even the minimal gains. i have a k&n intake...i got it because my shop gets cost on it, its probably not the best cold air, but its one nonetheless.

 

I had the RSX type S, AEM intake does not give you 21whp... I think that AEM put out about 12whp, while Injen put 11whp... I too doubt that the intake on our car gives us 11+ whp... to me it doesn't seem like it, even though i haven't dyno it yet.

 

The only way to get the correct numbers is to dyno both items in the same condition.

 

I'd like to see a dyno report that shows any significant difference between the stock intake and aftermarket. If there was a 10+hp gain, that would mean the stock intake was absolutely horrible, which it is not. PURE BS IMHO!

 

http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/21-...Acura%20TL.pdf

here are there dyno graphs if anyone cares....

looks like 16 on top of the curve and 19.6 at the max improvement... if these are real thats awsome

gonna go add this to my dyno page

 

sorry to be the dumbass newbie with a stupid question like this....but what is the difference between just a regular CAI and Dynoing a CAI?

 

CAI stands for Cold Air Intake. if you dyno a CAI, your seeing how much power that intake will add to the stock car... so the aem dynos out at 19.6 hp maximum increase and 16hp peak

 

thanks...i hate to be a newbie...i mean i know what CAI is....i just know much about how it works or the terms used for it, im actually thinking about getting a Cold Air Intake cause i don't like the way my car sounds and i like to tune that a little bit with a CAI but i definatly am waiting.. :-) thanks ONAGER..

 

everyone is a newbie at some point.....

read, read, read.... and get involved with the "scene" if possible and it will come

cold air intake should give a healthy increase in sound, i too want one for the sound factor, as i belive the tl is too quiet. but if im going to spend my money i want to get the best possible. i have been waiting for the aem intake and the dyno curve looks promissing.

a cold air intake will draw air from outside the engine compartment, where the air is colder, hence the name cold air intake. most intakes snake down inside the front air dam. these normally will produce the most power. a short ram intake draws its air from inside the engine compartment, although they arent known as warm air intakes, thats what they are... but they to will show gains on the dyno as they flow better then most stock intakes. a "drop in" is a high flow replacment filter in the stock air box (k&n)... these will give minimal gains

 

that dyno was from aem and you have to take it with a grain of salt. i would only believe it if a third party was to test and dyno their product and produce the same results.

 

and ive seen MANY threads around here about the AEM intake for the 3G TL....doesn't seem like there is one for the 3G TL released yet...does anyone know anything>?

 

i should make my own intake out of PVC pipe, claim a 25+ hp gain, and sell that. you know people will buy it. maybe not everyone because they may tust AEM more, but id still make hella money

hahahahaha

 

I thought that the independent Injen only Dyno'd about 5rwhp. Since the AEM isn't out (and may never be released) there are no dyno's of it however one of the guys on here was one of the original "ginny pigs" and he said that even AEM wasn't able to get over 11rwhp out of the beta box. Where that most recent graphic comes from might just as well be from photochop for all we know. When/If AEM EVER releases their unit, I would believe their claims once someon backed them up with independent dyno's. Heck, I'd even buy each vendors unit (if they want to give them to me at cost) and dyno before and afters on the same car for both units on the same day in the same conditions. Now THAT would be details we ALL could use.