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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 03:17 AM
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Clear Flood mode?

Do the 3G TLs support "Clear Flood" mode? I've read that earlier Hondas shut off the injectors when you held WOT and cranked the engine. I tried it on a hot-start in my car, but the engine started normally and began revving up; I'm wondering if there's an exact procedure for this.

I want to be able to crank the engine over after oil changes and after the car sits for days to pressurize the oiling system.
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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Dude, not to be an ass or anything, but this is a newer modern car. Just start it and go lol. The oil system does not need to be pressurized for startup, and it certainly doesn't need to be at WOT when you crank it. Regardless if its sat for any length of time, or if an oil change was just performed.
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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Most EFI cars have had this since the 80s but I've never specifically checked on the TL. You're right, it shuts off the injectors in the event it gets flooded. I suspect this method was chosen because its what people already did for their carbureted cars to clear them out.

It's never a bad idea to get pressure before allowing the engine to fire. I do so on my turbo car with a preluber. However, it could take longer to get pressure and fill up the oil filter spinning 150rpm on the starter vs 800rpm running. I just fill the oil filter with oil before installing a d the oil pressure light goes out very quickly.

The crankshaft does not require oil pressure to float in the bearings, just the oil in the bearings and the rotation of the crank will float it until the fresh oil supply gets there. You have oil stuck to the cylinder walls and cam lobes usually have their own "puddle" of oil to dip in when first started. If the first start is important to you, get a filter with a good anti drain back valve like Royal Purple and a very polar ester oil that clings to metal when the engine is off better than most.

You might look into an ignition fuse to pull if you want to crank it over without it firing.
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gwiffer
Do the 3G TLs support "Clear Flood" mode? I've read that earlier Hondas shut off the injectors when you held WOT and cranked the engine. I tried it on a hot-start in my car, but the engine started normally and began revving up; I'm wondering if there's an exact procedure for this.

I want to be able to crank the engine over after oil changes and after the car sits for days to pressurize the oiling system.
You have an excellent resource at your fingertips called the Owner's Manual. Based on the OM, it would appear the answer is yes:

http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/p...404O00176B.pdf

Pg. 177

"If the engine fails to start, press
the accelerator pedal all the way
down and hold it there while
starting to clear flooding. If the
engine still does not start, return
to step 5."


But I wouldn't be the least bit concerned about starting after an oil change...

Last edited by nfnsquared; Dec 10, 2012 at 11:57 AM.
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 05:03 PM
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^Thanks, my car is a V6 Accord, so I was wondering if the TLs were similar. I tried it, but the car just started normally and revved up b/c my foot was on the throttle.

Yes, pulling the F/I or ECU fuse under the hood accomplishes the same thing, but it takes more time.
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