phee

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heading home on after work this friday and when this nice super low green civic pulled by me and damn near made me deaf with his fart can (sounded like arse)

i laughed it off and just accelerated lightly in 6th to pull away from him because he was overriding my instrumentals with his loudness

i take a peak in my rear view and i see him reach back into his back seat and open his bottle, so i knew it was on.

i keep it cool because my exit is coming up. i weave right to the exit that goes into the next highway and he follow.

we get an opening and i shift to 4th and go the fast lane with him behind me. he gets next to me and downshifts and acts like he doesnt see me when i look over

i shift from 6 to 5 to 4 to 3 (he gunned it when i hit 5th) so i played catch up in 3rd, we both shift at the same time and i even it out in the bottom of 4th and start inching away.

by the top half of 4th i had about a door on him and shut it down. no need to be excessive.

he continued going and weaved off into traffic. a damn shame too because i wanted to ask him if he was swapped as well.

Slow03Maxima

I'd imagine were it a normal swap (b16, b18, K20/4, H22) + nitrous, it would probably be a 100+ mph trap car.

My guess is a bolton D-series with a 35-50 shot if you were able to catch him and pull him even after he got the jump.

Either way it was, good kill

phee

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dont get me wrong. i didnt pull away super hard. and my 5-4-3 shift was very quick so we were about even until i got deep into my powerband

alexSU

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good race, nice win

btw phee i was in ATL on sunday night for a just a few hours...i was gonna call you up but i was gone in like an hour. next time ill shoot you a PM. first time in ATL and i was impressed, ill definitely be back!

phee

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shuda hit me up. sundays are my cruisin days

vhtran

How did you know or even able to see anything below the door to conclude that he opened his bottle?

Sonnick

Maybe he knew the guy?? Otherwise

phee

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maybe because we were going uphill and i could clearly see him twisting his arm. either he was opening his bottle or turning off a garden hose.

not to mention the fact that a 2000 civic would get dusted by me. including swapped ones. -experience

vhtran

^ he probably closed the bottle pwahaha

Slow03Maxima

I'm going to guess you're talking about an EJ8 (as they are the heavier ones). Even those fully optioned are only 2600lbs and it does not take but around 190whp to put them around the 100mph trap speed mark.

Now if it was a D16 with a "safe" amount of nitrous and boltons, which I would guess considering he was a ricebag, then your race sounds just right.

Do you think were it a swap + spray that you would have pulled him? It just seems like you're implying it was probably swapped and sprayed to keep with you like he did, if that's not the case then nevermind this post.

I'm not trying to downplay your win or something, but I do recall having to spray to beat a EJ8 with a H22 + boltons + 75 shot who was pulling on me pretty hard N/A about a year ago. Even then I only crept back by him with probably 350-375whp when spraying. They can be quite nasty from a roll with a swap + power adder.

phee

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i never implied that he was swapped and spraying. i was making a comparison saying that he must have been spraying because if he was just swapped then i would have pulled on him a lot harder than i did.

phee

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it was a 1998 civic http://www.dragtimes.com/images/9150...onda-Civic.jpg

looked like that

Slow03Maxima

Ok I see. You must run into some pretty crappy swapped ones to consider them so consistently slow. They can be mid/low 13 cars pretty easy on a properly done N/A swap, at least the ones I've seen at the track around these parts. They often sound and look just as ricey as the 17 second ones

phee

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or u could be underestimating my car

i ran a 1989 stripped civic with a b18 in it and i pulled 1 car on him. unfortunately he didnt want to run from a stand still

Slow03Maxima

Yeah I just assumed your car wouldn't be any quicker than mid/low 13s since the N/A TL record is a 13.39 (and that's the record by a long shot). You should hit up the track and take that #1 spot!

phee

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yup. that was tony who ran the 13.3 with drag radials on his ssm 3rd gen 6 speed. im a good bit lighter than he is. unfortunately ive yet to go to the track. cant wait for my first test and tune night

Rockstar21

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what about that TL diet guy? wasnt he pulling rediculous 0-60 ft. not long ago?

i was almost positive he could be in the 12's with his N/A...

'03TL-S

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IIRC, isn't he auto? If he is, i highly doubt that.

CGP CL9

fully built swapped k series in a ek coupe could do a lottt of damage even to supercharged 6 cylinders.
good win though.

Rockstar21

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with a 4.6 second 0-60... why not?

and what does auto have to do with him achieving 12 seconds? i see auto cars run 11's and less all the time.

as far as i know he hasnt tracked it yet for the 1/2 mile but everyone is predicting high 12's-low 13's. and hes not even fully bolted.. just a lot of weight reduction.

Rockstar21

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1/4 mile*

ps. most cars with that fast of a 0-60 are in exactly that range.. high 12's - low 13's

if he started modding his car heavily he would be deep into 12's

Inaccurate

Mods (J32A3 w/5AT)
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XLR8 j-pipe
RV6 precat delete
RV6 race pipe (3rd cat delete)
Custom insulated AEM CAI (click here)
Oversized CAI filter (click here)
UR Pulley undersize
Ultimate Cooling Mod (click here)
Outlaw Engineering Thermoblock Spacer (click here)
Throttle body coolant bypass (click here)

Note - I am in the middle of my next project (top secret until posted in a few months) that will make this disussion a moot point.

Sonnick

Don't you have like 240-250whp? I'd doubt you'd run low 13s with that setup unless I'm missing something.

I know you are about 3100ish lbs but with 250whp that's gonna take some DRs, which you may have! Lol.

Rockstar21

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you need to just do a 1/4 run on slicks damnit!

phee

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that dyno was done a week after my swap (about a year ago). ive since done
fixed my huge quarter sized hole in my header
fixed my rich condition with a valve adjustment (i was running 10 afr's at wot)
opened my IMRC
full 2.5 inch exhaust
replaced my cat
intake
pulley
EGR cleaning
manifold porting
a misc mod
and summer tires

as for the k swapped car- i have no expectations of beating a k swapped civic. in fact, im building an ek with a friend and i know its going to be a monster.

point is, anything can happen on the street. thats why i prefer to race from a standstill. but i couldnt resist this time because i just came off probation from speeding

phee

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innaccurate is definitly the fastest tl on these boards. many people make more power, but he actually puts all of his down

princelybug

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Nice kill.

ineedmyfixofacura

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great kill dude, inaccurate does have a nice TL I like watching his videos, very interesting.

vhtran

/Flame suite on

Some of you guys are funny. It's not like it's easy to get 12s, try to beat that 13.3s first. Another funny thing is that some of you hyped up for being a semi lux sedan can beats numerous sport cars. So, how that can be a semi lux sedan (some) that doesn't have back seat and other parts?

/Flame suite still on.

Slow03Maxima

Very true... There are slews of my generation Maxima on our forums with the same mods as the N/A record holder (12.58) who barely break into the 13s. It usually takes a lot of track time before you can get the launch (and shifting if manual) down to the point that you can get the "expected" times for your mods. Even if you can launch great and consistently on the street, you'll find the drag strip requires you to learn all over again. I was running 14s (9.2-9.5 1/8th) with just a couple less mods than I have now for quite a few track visits.

There are probably lots of people here who think they're good for a high 12 or low 13 (comparing their mods to the 13.39 guy) that would be very disappointed after a day at the drag strip. Not necessarily talking about people in this thread, just generally speaking.

ineedmyfixofacura

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good point, either way no one expects it to be so damn quick so that's the point.

alexSU

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Yeah it's disappointing to see cars with great mods but no time slips to show us what they can run

Rockstar21

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who said it was easy?

Yonkers914

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Agreed 100%. Practice makes perfect.

phee

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x2.

funny how this went from me beating a civic on the street to me beating a supercharged third gen at the track.

i never claimed to say i was faster than 13.39 or any of that. all i said was that i was faster than this particular civic who was juicing, and the few swapped civics that ive raced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbnAi5zpwc0

Slow03Maxima

Man i just don't understand why those S/C cars seem to be so slow for what they are. 300+ whp for a 107 trap?

Slow03Maxima

Who said you were beating supercharged TLs???

You didn't claim that you were faster, but you said I was underestimating your car when I was estimating it to be "around" as fast as the 13.39 car after having said that I've seen those swapped civics running mid/bottom 13s N/A. I just took that as you saying that your car is faster than that.

phee

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nobody said i was beating the supercharged tl's. i was pointing out the direction of where the conversation was headed. seemed like people were expecting me to beat those times.

some H22 swapped civics and SOME b20 civics run low 13's. but most of them run high 13's and low 14's which is about on par with a well driven STOCK 03 cl with a 6 speed.

due to the fact that this was a street race and i will probably never see the guy we will never know what he had under the hood.

but i implied you were underestimating my car because it seems like you would expect everybody with a swapped civic to smoke a tl. which is not the case.

i never claimed to be faster than a 13.3. that is wicked fast for a NA tl to run. mainly due to traction.

i honestly dont know what times my car will run at the track. but i think focusing on times when we are discussing a roll race is counterintuitive due to the fact that the MPH is more important due to the circumstances.

ive beaten my buddies awd talon that ran a 13.8 at the quarter ONE TIME. but sometimes he will beat me and we will shuffle.

now if we do it from a roll, i win every time.

vhtran

^ you sure you gave us the right youtube video there? I don't see anything about 13.2@107mph beside the title of the video.

phee

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thats the guy who ran it. type-s09