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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:18 PM
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Changing timing belt yourself.......

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Curious to know how many have done it. Was it "that" difficult to do? Anythingto kknow about in advance? I do have mechanical skills. Think I have all tools necessary. I saw a post somewher on here that was very helpful!
Just curious. New here so still trying to learn to navigate this forum.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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Might help to know on what car/engine?

My dad & I went to do mine on my '00 TL & hit a problem when trying to get the crank pulley bolt loose. It wouldn't budge & broke a 3/4" impact trying to get it off.
Now we're waiting for his friend that owns a shop to have the time to knock it out for me.

Overall I don't think it's that difficult if you know what you're doing & have the right tools.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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You know that was kinda stupid on my part, but I guess I am inquiring to 3.2 but open to any advice out there.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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if you have the time and patience, there is no reason why you can't tackle this job on your own... just take it slow and double check your work... especially when putting the new belt on and setting up the timing gears... if you screw up the timing, that will easily cost you your engine...

a trick to get the crank bolt off is to use a breaker bar/pipe and wedge it towards the ground... crank the engine very quickly (1 sec) and the torque from the engine will break the bolt free...
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 03:18 PM
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Here is the DIY


https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/122-diy-105k-service-timing-belt-water-pump-spark-plugs-thermostat-%2Apics%2A-784622/
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
if you have the time and patience, there is no reason why you can't tackle this job on your own... just take it slow and double check your work... especially when putting the new belt on and setting up the timing gears... if you screw up the timing, that will easily cost you your engine...

a trick to get the crank bolt off is to use a breaker bar/pipe and wedge it towards the ground... crank the engine very quickly (1 sec) and the torque from the engine will break the bolt free...
That's the only trick we didn't try. We had 3' pipes on 2 breaker bars & everything was bending except the bolt.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 07:04 AM
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The 07-08's have autostart so you can't just bump the starter.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 07:22 AM
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I have a torch in my shop, heat the bolt head red, wait 30-40 seconds, heat it again, do that a 3rd time, have a impact & socket handy, zip & it's out.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NetGnome
The 07-08's have autostart so you can't just bump the starter.
what?

I have an 07 Type-S and have used the blip method on more than 1 occasion to get my crank pulley bolt loose.

OP, use the blip method. I've done it probably 5 times between my old 05 TL and my 07, with great success.

I did the 105k maintenance on my '05 TL and didn't have any major issues. Took about 5 hours including time to peruse the DIY thread.

If you have mechanical skills, you can do the job just fine. I just always make sure I take painstaking care of properly align the cam gears to TDC and ensure the belt is seated properly.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by i_love_cars
what?

I have an 07 Type-S and have used the blip method on more than 1 occasion to get my crank pulley bolt loose.

OP, use the blip method. I've done it probably 5 times between my old 05 TL and my 07, with great success.
I was afraid of doing this method on my tl-s because of the auto start feature...the car would continue to crank until the engine turns over, and I didnt want to risk that. any tricks when you did that method? pull any fuses? or you just turned the key and then back off when it broke loose
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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I think the "auto-start" feature is just a timer, similar to the push button start. It wont keep cranking if it doesnt start (just like a push button start wont keep cranking should there be a problem with ignition.). It's probably just on a 1-2 second timer if anything.

if anything you can manually turn the key to off instead of just "bumping" the starter. Doubt the engine will continue to crank with the key back to the off position and removed.

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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
I was afraid of doing this method on my tl-s because of the auto start feature...the car would continue to crank until the engine turns over, and I didnt want to risk that. any tricks when you did that method? pull any fuses? or you just turned the key and then back off when it broke loose
No tricks but there could be a difference because I'm a manual transmission. If you have an auto, I cannot confirm the blip method.

I just turned the key for half a second and immediately turned it back to the off position. No problem at all.
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 02:41 AM
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You could also try the blip method without trying to open the bolt; I mean to see what the car will do?

Couldn't you just blip the key last on for a second and see if the car continues to try to start or if you have to hold it for a second before it takes over


Sorry I'm a 6mt guy as well.
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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Just take it to a shop that has a 3/4" or 1" air wrench (and commercial compressor) and have them pop it loose, then re-tighten it. It will come off easy then, probably with an average air wrench. Might cost you $50, but just ask all the folks on here that spent hours trying to get it loose if the $50 would have been worth it.
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Thanks guys for all the info. Having a very hard time finding anyone who can help me change out the timing belt. I wanna do it to learn my car. Yes I have mechanical skills. My only problem is my back. Since my sergury I have to to things at my pace? I know for sure the car will need to be on car ramps. To damn low! Kills me. But that is it. Thanks for all the info. Joe
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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When installing the bolt back, how tight should it be?
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tihomirbg
When installing the bolt back, how tight should it be?
crankshaft pulley should be 181 lb/ft. A lot.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 12:25 AM
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Find someone to do it for you.

Your back > more important then doing it yourself.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
That's the only trick we didn't try. We had 3' pipes on 2 breaker bars & everything was bending except the bolt.
I had a 6ft cheater pipe over my Span-om breaker bar, and it snapped that breaker bar like nothing. So, I went and got my 50+ year old SK breaker and that handled it like a champ. Snap-on makes excellent tools,but for the price they are extremely overpriced.

I' sure aware but you need the Honda crank pulley removal tool that can be rented at any autoparts store, like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-648796-Crankcase-Pulley-Removal/dp/B0000TMLWQ http://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-648796-Crankcase-Pulley-Removal/dp/B0000TMLWQ

I just took a sliding t-handle and wedged against the control arm then used a 12" extension supported by a jacksand, and within minutes of swapping out the Snap-Crackle-Pop breaker bar it was broke free in minutes.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 06:38 AM
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Thanks for all the info. I went to local acura dealer. They have a special for timing belts. $477.77 that includes new drive /serpentine belt. I know other things could/should be changed, but I have to go with whatfunds iI have. Wife is already bitching cause of the timing belt. You never know, I mayhit the lottery! Lol ;-)
Thanks for all the info. Joe
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 08:14 AM
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^Not sure what ALL is included but definitely get the water pump, pulley and tensioner changed while they are in there
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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Lol as an experienced technician I would recommend you just hit up ebay for the crank lock tool for Hondas. its only like 20 bucks shipped, instead of taking the risk in tearing something up trying the backyard mechanic way.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by One_silly_wabbit
Lol as an experienced technician I would recommend you just hit up ebay for the crank lock tool for Hondas. its only like 20 bucks shipped, instead of taking the risk in tearing something up trying the backyard mechanic way.
Or better yet go to an auto parts store and rent it. Then when you're done they give you your money back.
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