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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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Calling all Ebony Interiors...

I have a question about the Ebony interior. A couple people (including me) have voiced concerns over a faded, brownish, uneven fade on their dashboard - most noticeable on passenger side. (Nauseating on a sunny day to look over from driver seat and see it)

For those who have not complained - is your dash (in the sun - not a dark garage) the same uniform color etc. as the black on the doors? I detailed my whole interior this weekend. For the dash and like material on the doors I used the 303 Aerospace. Great stuff - may be better than Vinylex IMO, but my dash will not come anywhere near the same black rich look of the upper part of the doors where it is same texture material.

Just trying to get a feel here if mine is the only one, or if this is just the way it is - if so I rest my case, but it really looks bad.

So then my question is - are dashboards replaceable - meaning how many pieces does the dash come in? On my old cars, the part I am complaining about was a separate piece - like the "lid", if you will, to the dash. I am going to a different service department since my last one said they "detailed" the interior for me as their fix.

Is it possible to remove the top of the dash (obviously a lot has to come apart to get at it I'm sure), but just want to be intelligent and informed when I talk to dealer.

Anyboby with the shop manulas that show the dash in an exploded diagram?

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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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Wait, isn't the top of the dash black on all interior colours? So if you got camel or any of the other colours the top is black and the lower half plus your seats etc are the colour you chose.

That's what I've seen anyways, that's why I chose ebony, because it looks so much nicer as one uniform colour than two colours...
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SlntSam
Wait, isn't the top of the dash black on all interior colours? So if you got camel or any of the other colours the top is black and the lower half plus your seats etc are the colour you chose.

That's what I've seen anyways, that's why I chose ebony, because it looks so much nicer as one uniform colour than two colours...
OK, maybe so - but how does your ebony dash look?
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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I haven't noticed any shading like you describe. I HAVE noted that the perforated material that covers the instrument binacle and center stack is somewhat lighter than the surrounding area, but not visually problematic, IMO. I have also noticed that the color is not truly black, but more of a very dark grey - "Graphite" or "Charcoal", including the floor mats and carpeting. Everything same shade.

If you truly have a brownish cast to the top of the dash and you consider it a warranty item, how the dash is constructed should be of little concern to you. This is something you present to the dealer and request that it be corrected. It's up to them to fiure it out.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DavePA

If you truly have a brownish cast to the top of the dash and you consider it a warranty item, how the dash is constructed should be of little concern to you. This is something you present to the dealer and request that it be corrected. It's up to them to fiure it out.
I agree. I think I was or am just fearing them having to rip the entire car apart, then I have other issues to deal with - sometimes it is best to leave things undisturbed, but this stares you in the face every day.

I am going to talk to a diff. svc. place. We took my '02 TL there when we first got it cause there was a stain on the leather and the guy was willing to take the whole seat out and replace - no questions asked and no trying to mask the problem.

It just became so obvious this weekend when I detailed the doors soo nice then the dash just looks soo bad. Thanks for the reply - just trying to take a quick survey before I call dealer.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DavePA
I haven't noticed any shading like you describe. I HAVE noted that the perforated material that covers the instrument binacle and center stack is somewhat lighter than the surrounding area, but not visually problematic, IMO. I have also noticed that the color is not truly black, but more of a very dark grey - "Graphite" or "Charcoal", including the floor mats and carpeting. Everything same shade.

If you truly have a brownish cast to the top of the dash and you consider it a warranty item, how the dash is constructed should be of little concern to you. This is something you present to the dealer and request that it be corrected. It's up to them to fiure it out.
I agree with Dave. I haven't noticed any uneven coloring, but it is a charcoal and not a deep black...
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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polish and protectant are your friend
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PoochaKannInc
I agree with Dave. I haven't noticed any uneven coloring, but it is a charcoal and not a deep black...
Would you say the color of the door trim (closest to the window) and dash are the same tho?
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cTLgo
polish and protectant are your friend
thats why I am concerned - I detailed the inside with 303 and the doors etc look AWESOME, but the dash looks like brown dirt in the sunlight.

The car sat for a couple months before I came along and bought it - don't recall seeing dash look like this when I picked it up - maybe they had some special dressing on there that has now worn off.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TBone2004
Would you say the color of the door trim (closest to the window) and dash are the same tho?
Yes. The door trim and the dash material are of the same color, EXCEPT the parts of the dashboard that are covered in the rubbery, charcoal material (sorry the best way I can think of describing it). I'm speaking of the material that is on the top of the instrument binnacle and some other parts of the dash. That material is slightly lighter than the rest of the dash and door trim.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TBone2004
thats why I am concerned - I detailed the inside with 303 and the doors etc look AWESOME, but the dash looks like brown dirt in the sunlight.

The car sat for a couple months before I came along and bought it - don't recall seeing dash look like this when I picked it up - maybe they had some special dressing on there that has now worn off.

DONT TAKE THE ALL CAPS TYPING WRONG..

WELL I HAVE NOTICED THAT ITS NOT BLACK LIKE THE DOORS. LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID.... ITS DARK GRAY CHARCOAL OR SOMETHING. BUT HEY I DO YOU A QUICK FAVOR.. LET ME TAKE A PIC RIGHT NOW AND POST IT SO U CAN SEE MINE.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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I would bring the car back to the dealer and ask them what can be done. THe dash should not be changing colors yet, crap, the car isn't a year old. I haven't noticed this in mine yet however, I just purchased mine 2 weeks ago. Also, i purchased one of those sun shades this weekend to help reduced sunlight beating down on my seats/dash etc. Hopefully, I will have the car tinted in a couple more weeked.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GunnmeTaLCURA04
DONT TAKE THE ALL CAPS TYPING WRONG..

WELL I HAVE NOTICED THAT ITS NOT BLACK LIKE THE DOORS. LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID.... ITS DARK GRAY CHARCOAL OR SOMETHING. BUT HEY I DO YOU A QUICK FAVOR.. LET ME TAKE A PIC RIGHT NOW AND POST IT SO U CAN SEE MINE.
that would be cool. In the sun works best (or in this case looks worse)

thanks
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ensley696
I would bring the car back to the dealer and ask them what can be done. THe dash should not be changing colors yet, crap, the car isn't a year old. I haven't noticed this in mine yet however, I just purchased mine 2 weeks ago. Also, i purchased one of those sun shades this weekend to help reduced sunlight beating down on my seats/dash etc. Hopefully, I will have the car tinted in a couple more weeked.
yea, I use the shade and treat the dash etc. so I am mad cause I am doing my part you know. Plus it is garage kept and summer is just starting.

I will bring it to them and voice my concerns.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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here you go man... see pics.

in my case it look alike... other than i havent cleaned my car in 3 weeks.. but color wise... matches.. or litttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt tttttttttttttttllllleee bit off. but here you go.






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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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holy CAAaaaraaammmbaaaaa. these are HUGE>>>>>>> sorry about this but hey.. llook at the bright side... u get to see up close..
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Wow. thanks! OK, I will speak to them. I will try to take a pic tonight, but hard in the lower light. My wife already thinks I am obsessed always taking pictures.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TBone2004
Wow. thanks! OK, I will speak to them. I will try to take a pic tonight, but hard in the lower light. My wife already thinks I am obsessed always taking pictures.

so i guess, yours is WAYY off balance then? or is it like mine. mine as you can see its like barely different... except dust and humidity... lol
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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If I can catch it on camera it is a train wreck! Looks like an old junkyard car.
the sun should still be good when I get home - you will not believe the faded look - just on the passenger side. I think the color match is OK, it is the dirty faded look that will surprise you.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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I noticed this too. protectant.
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Old Jun 28, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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I noticed this too. protectant.
303 is having no effect on it. pic coming tonight.
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