Bye Bye 2007 TL Type S Automatic Transmission :(

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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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Bye Bye 2007 TL Type S Automatic Transmission :(

YUPP!! it happened to me today. at the gas pump!! Tight turn in so I had to go in reverse about a foot and once I stopped and put it back into D I heard a lound clunk and I knew right away. Car wouldnt move and I just heard rustling metal. Couldnt shift out of drive, even in drive the rpms would go up but no movement

Had the car towed to a shop I know and am waiting to hear tommorow on the full damage. Im clueless as to how much its going to cost to get the tranny rebuilt. would that be my best option?? A rebuild?? Or a new tranny? Or used??

Its a 2007 type S auto with 200,200KM or roughly 124,000 Miles.

Im expecting between 2-3000!!
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 11:40 PM
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Sorry to hear. Failure doesn't seem to be a trait with the 07/08 autos? Im a bit surprised, as they have shown to be pretty solid. Personally id look into a rebuild with a reputable trans shop.

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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 11:41 PM
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^ I know thats why I was surprised. I kept up with my maintenence and pressure Anyone know the full price on a 6mt conversion??
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 12:11 AM
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"Tight turn in... clunk and... rustling metal...", sounds like an axle.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 12:14 AM
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^ I hope to god your right. But it wouldnt shift out of neutral after. If I put it into drive the rpms would go up but just a metal rustling sound and no movement
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 12:43 AM
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Keep us updated. I hope it's not something major.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 01:17 AM
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if its the axle you should have had plenty of symptoms before the axle snapped, such as clicking when turning and seeing lots of axle grease over the cv boot. but, anythings possible, you could have hit a bad bump that somehow snapped it.

but also, could be the transmission, it definitely sounds like a mechanical problem though. a rebuild should be in the low 2000's like 2200 or so.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by wojo1988
^ I hope to god your right. But it wouldnt shift out of neutral after. If I put it into drive the rpms would go up but just a metal rustling sound and no movement
You will not be able to put it to Park if axle is broken because it keeps on spinning. You have to shut engine off then put it to park. My biggest suspicion is "tight turn".
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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I say it's an axle also. Hopefully that's all it is and you can be back on the road soon.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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cv / driveshaft
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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Make sure you go and see for yourself before shop will sell you transmission.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Acura-OC
Make sure you go and see for yourself before shop will sell you transmission.
Sad thing is the majority of car owners are like the OP, and think, well there goes the trans. Same type of thread pops up just like this one. Shop doesn't even need to upsell, customer comes in and tells them their trans went out, what's the damage?
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 05:36 PM
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^ the mechanic my car always goes to is a good family friend. He fixed it up this morning. my axle was shot!!!! So while I was at work today he fixed it up and personally dropped it back off at my house. I havent driven it yet but will later on. The good thing about him is that he doesnt bill me for months, thats just how he is. So I imagine between 3-500 for the fix
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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That's a good news! Better than knowing that your transmission is shot
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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Glad to hear you have an honest mechanic.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 06:06 PM
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Glad it's fixed!
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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$300-$500 is much better than $2,000-$3,000!
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Good to hear it wasn't nothing too serious
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 10:29 PM
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So I finally drove it this evening and WOW! I knew there was a slight vibration before and after it semi went away once I had my wheels balance. ( the Winter rims and tires I put on ). The car is ridiclously smooth now with all shifts and acceleration at all speeds. The car pulls strong and feels like the day I bought it.

Im actually in a mode now to fix every little bushing before it gets cold out just to make everything perfect.

This has been a busy year for my TL. Ive had all of this done in 2013

1. Timing belt, water pump, etc
2. Valve adjustment
3. New pads and rotors front and rear last week
4. Break fluid was flushed
5. 4 New endlinks
6. The whole front half of the car was repainted from storm damage
7. New windshield put in
8. Every burned out led inside the car was fixed
9. Power steering pump replaced (recall)
10. Front driver side axle replaced

Im pretty sure all of my maintenence is done and up to date, and I feel I can finally rest assured I can enjoy the car all over again for awhileeee without having to worry about anything.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 11:07 PM
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That's fantastic OP. Assuming his final price is fair, be sure to give him a nice tip and a nice bottle of whatever poison he prefers.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 11:10 PM
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Oh his price will be fair guaranteed. I work at a nice steakhouse so im tipping him with a 100$ giftcard to come by sometime. This whole ordeal saved me alot of hassle that I could of had
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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Glad it worked out for you.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 12:50 AM
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Good to hear OP! to be honest iv never heard of an 07/08 auto trans failing.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 01:48 AM
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Change the title of this thread. Can't have people thinking that the type-s has tranny problems, gotta keep the resale value high on our cars
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 02:09 AM
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Great news OP! glad to hear it was nothing serious!

Originally Posted by Acura-OC
You will not be able to put it to Park if axle is broken because it keeps on spinning. You have to shut engine off then put it to park. My biggest suspicion is "tight turn".
Hmm I'm having trouble understanding why you cant put it in park if the axle is snapped? Isnt the parking pawl located inside the transmission? so therefore it would have no effect from the axle. Granted the wheels may still spin afterwards, but physically it should still be able to park the transmission.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Parking brake mechanism is attached to drive shaft and when axle is broken it will keep on spinning even at idle. If you will use same force as you normally would to to shift to park it will feel like it doesn't let you, but you still will be able to shift to park by using more force than usual.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 03:41 AM
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I always thought the parking mechanism is inside the transmission? If it was on the driveshaft then wouldn't putting it in park have the same affect as pressing the brake pedal(and it doesnt).
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 07:06 AM
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Great news OP. This is the first time I went in this thread and I always knew that seeing a thread with a blown 07/08 Type S tranny just didn't seem right. I have been on this forum for a long time now and I also don't recall seeing anyone here with a tranny going in the Type S.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by paperboy42190
I always thought the parking mechanism is inside the transmission? If it was on the driveshaft then wouldn't putting it in park have the same affect as pressing the brake pedal(and it doesnt).
Is drive shaft attached to transmission?
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Acura-OC
Is drive shaft attached to transmission?

Fixed that for you.

Of course sir!






#6 and #7 on the drive shafts go into each side of the transmission case.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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Hmm I'm having trouble understanding why you cant put it in park if the axle is snapped? Isnt the parking pawl located inside the transmission? so therefore it would have no effect from the axle. Granted the wheels may still spin afterwards, but physically it should still be able to park the transmission.
Parking pawl is internal to the trans. The trans is spinning with the engine, it's disconnected from the driveshaft, which is why the speedo will still jump and why you can't put it in park until it's rotation is at rest. You don't have to turn it off but it at least needs to be in neutral (clutches disengaged) and at rest (countershaft not spinning) with brake pedal engaged before putting into park.

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Parking brake mechanism is attached to drive shaft and when axle is broken it will keep on spinning even at idle. If you will use same force as you normally would to to shift to park it will feel like it doesn't let you, but you still will be able to shift to park by using more force than usual.
Parking brake is on the rear calipers. I think you mean parking pawl / gear. It's hydraulic controlled. It's also controlled by pcm inputs to safeguard the parking gear from damage, so you can just use force to engage it.

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I always thought the parking mechanism is inside the transmission? If it was on the driveshaft then wouldn't putting it in park have the same affect as pressing the brake pedal(and it doesnt).
It is. It's not on the driveshaft, it's splined with the countershaft.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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Mean't can't just use force..
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 01:28 PM
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It's funny how you guys think the 07/08 trans is bulletproof..

Just wait..
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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I was like �� noooooooo. Had me scared for a second there. I do t want my tranny going boom haha. Glad to hear it was just an axle. Although the symptoms sounded like an axle. I'd imagine it's still a pretty scary situation, knowing that 3GS have tranny issues. But I haven't heard of TLS tranny blowing up either. So us S owners should be in the clear lol

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Originally Posted by Majofo
Parking pawl is internal to the trans. The trans is spinning with the engine, it's disconnected from the driveshaft, which is why the speedo will still jump and why you can't put it in park until it's rotation is at rest. You don't have to turn it off but it at least needs to be in neutral (clutches disengaged) and at rest (countershaft not spinning) with brake pedal engaged before putting into park.
this is the perfect answer I was looking for. thanks majofo. No on else was able to understand my question, they were assuming I didnt know the driveshaft is connected to the transmission lol.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:22 PM
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Which is also better than $3700, which is how much I'm paying an independent transmission shop to repair my 6MT. I was gonna say he's lucky he's only got an automatic! An axle's even better =) See, to all those sneering at my repair history, this is evidence for the front axles failing.

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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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$3700!! MTs are cheaper to fix than ATs

Might want to take your TL to another shop.
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Old Nov 6, 2013 | 10:29 PM
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The shop I took it to charges $95/hour for labor which is very fair for their level of expertise. The labor for this job is ~14 hours which is also fair. The parts cost is what it is. There's really nothing anyone can do about that.

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$3700!! MTs are cheaper to fix than ATs

Might want to take your TL to another shop.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 12:05 AM
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Source the parts yourself. You are the one with the broken syncro, right? $3700-1400 = $1300 for parts. You could buy a used low mileage manual tranny for that.
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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 12:15 AM
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Synchros and gears. To me a used tranny is a shot in the dark. It would have to be opened to check for wear and at least have the synchros replaced. By then, I'm not sure I'm really saving much if anything. I checked eBay for transmissions but I only found a few, and they're all high-mileage. Here's the thread on my transmission.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/any-idea-whats-wrong-my-manual-transmission-06mt-898561/

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Source the parts yourself. You are the one with the broken syncro, right? $3700-1400 = $1300 for parts. You could buy a used low mileage manual tranny for that.
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