HQTL6SPD

My brake rotors are going to need a change up soon. I'm taking advantage of this and am just going to buy hawk ceramic pads, but i dont know which rotors to get. I want to buy good quality slotted rotors from a well known company (that wont rust). But their aren't many options for our car when it comes to brake rotors. I don't want to spend an insane amount, i just want something upgraded from stock. I've seen some on ebay, but they are companies i never heard from so i dont trust the quality. I've heard that the 04-05 Sti and Evolution VIII have the same braking system as our cars do. Has anyone looked into this further or purchased slotted rotors for either of these cars? any info will be big help, thanks ppl!

sixsixfour

the rust you see is normal. the surface of the rotor gets ground down, gets exposed to air and oxidizes.

i know from experience though that at least the bolt pattern of the TL is identical to the Lancer Evolution (I had one and currently my brother still has his MR), meaning every wheel and rotor combo should bolt on to the TL w/o problems. Even the TL Brembo calipers look identical.

As far as the STi, only the 05-up STi has the same 5x114.3 bolt pattern as the Evo/TL, so be wary if you are basing your purchase on an 03-04 spec STi.

Now for rotors, slotted ones are fine. Brembo sells slotted rotors, as well as Stoptech. Thing is dont go cheap on your brakes, these are a safety item and i would rather pony up the dough and get Brembo/Rotora or Stoptech slotted rotors. Drilled ones are good for heat dissipation, but some cheap brands tend to crack at the holes.

Pads-wise, get the Hawk HPS street compound. it has very good grip across a broad temperature range ideal for street use, although they tend to get noisy and emit a fair amount of dust. We are currently running that on the MR.

one last thing is when you do get new pads and rotors, follow a correct bed-in procedure. See StopTech's link below:

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...formance.shtml


I used that to break in my 03 Evo and 05 Evo MR and never had a problem.


hope this helps.

HQTL6SPD

the bed-in procedure is no problem between me and my old man... do u think the hawk street compound give off less dust than factory?.... it's kinda of an issue for me, thats why i was interested in the ceramics, plus ppl on the forum have given good reviews... i get lazy sometimes, but i can't be caught ridin' dirty either! lol

fsttyms1

check on ebc green stuff and see if they make a pad for your car. They will last longer and will most likely have less dust

REX500D

My last car was a Subaru WRX but not an STi but I did do a quite bit of research before I upgraded my brakes. I do not know too much yet about these TL brakes but I can tell you the system is not totally the same. What sixsisfour said is correct about the the bolt pattern. 2005 and up are 114.3 and the older are a 100. The calipers look very similiar aside from the color. Big difference though is the rotors, I think we got ripped off on the rotors. The TLs have a smaller overall diameter rotor then those on the STi and I am not sure but I thought they were a bit wider on the STi as well but I do not recall the width for sure. I think the TL has the smallest factory rotor of any car company for that caliper which makes we wonder has anyone had a problem overheating their rotors?

HQTL6SPD

hey thanks... although i'm more interested in their red stuff pads, any idea what model number they are, and how i go about purchasing?

Starter

Actually drilled rotors don't do a lot for you, especially in street applications. Many full race set ups are moving away from them. Slotteds are the way to go. A lot of people on the CL side seem very satisfied with Roturas. Plus they come in at a reasonable price. Brembos are supposed to be good, but I have heard of warpage issues - word of mouth, no facts to back it up. The Hawk pads are famous for dust. Any decent pad should do. Check out Tire Rack for prices/applications or a couple of the vendors who post here.

HQTL6SPD

http://cgi.ebay.com/05-06-WRX-STi-Fr...QQcmdZViewItem

would these fit our car? and are they a reputable company? yea i only want slotted, no drilled...

sixsixfour

partly, yes. on street use, drilled rotors are not as effective.

but ever wonder why Porsche almost always uses drilled rotors? It depends on the design, and it again goes back to my original suggestion - dont skimp on the brakes. Brembo's Gran Turismo setup has drilled rotors and those are very good brakes (a few of my Evo members use them). expensive, yes, but you get what you pay for

I agree with the Rotoras, they are a good substitute for Brembos. those that warp brakes overheat them. that and a combination of poor brake pad choices.

either way, hopefully all these information helps

superfloofay

I've been on the same boat as you and have been eyeing the PowerSlot Cyro Rotors.. I'm not quite sure on the quailty as much but it sounds like a reputable brand. Anyone can back this up?

FiveLiterCheater

Rotora slotted rotors + EBC pads = good

superfloofay

About how much would those run?

HQTL6SPD

i found a website

http://www.sportcompactonly.com/perf...px?c=21&pl=605

HQTL6SPD

heres one for ebc brakes...btw are these fair prices?, i want to order soon, but also wouldn't want to spend more than their worth...

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pe...id=5&year=2004

Starter

As I said above - check Tire Rack for pricing/applications as a comparison , then go with the best deal for you. Don't forget to factor in shipping & handling charges.

Bob289

There is an Rota vender on here. Pretty cheep if I remember correctly. Forgot his name but if you poke around you will find him. I was thinking of upgrading to Rota but the cash flow kinda stomped that idea out for me =(

Bob289

Heres the link where I found the Rotora vender https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/rotora-slotted-drilled-slotted-rotors-special-cl-tl-tsx-324531/

HQTL6SPD

so i asked excelerate, turns out there are no rotora rotors for my brembos...

Excelerate

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The ROTORA Slotted rotors only fit the A/T. In March of 07 ROTORA will release the slotted and combo dics for the M/T. They just finished setting up the BBK for the 04-07 TL M/T with a 14" disc and 4 piston caliper in the front with the 13" rear kit w/ 4 piston caliper.

HQTL6SPD

NICE!! i definitly want to get that full set slotted! any idea of what the price for all four will be shipped to 10993? ...just in case i need to keep aside more than what i have already saved... let me know any new updates about that, thanks

Ant923

I have a 04 6MT and i wanna upgrade my rotors i see most of the people here have the rotora discs, i was on http brakeworld.com and saw some rotors made by discatalia. and my boy told me those are the rotors on the 06 M5 they are about $240 more but does anyone know anything about them? or should i just run with those rotora disc??? Help me out i wanna buy asap!!!

Excelerate

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Well the ROTORA Slotted's discs for the 04+ M/T for the front haven't been released yet. I don't have any pricing but I would expect about $200-$225 for the front set and the rear set is $140 then plus shipping.

mycoldshin

oh good, i was thinking of doing the same.

but what i wanted to know, from people who have already done it on their TL's, is that does it really make a difference?? is it really noticeable?

im not completely happy with the breaking power that comes stock on the tl. it just doesnt seem to be enough for the power that the engine give out.

is it a worthwhile upgrade??

Ant923

Why is it that these other websites advertise the cross drilled and slotted rotors fot the 04 TL 6MT? EXCELERATE. I wanna do some mods but i wanna start with those brakes. What do you charge?

HQTL6SPD

check out these brakes, would any of them fit?
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pe...8&brandid=2755


Excelerate, are their any updates yet about Rotora Slotted disc for 04+ TL MT? I'd rather get rotora's

Handruin

I can't speak first hand for the TL, but for the TSX, I bought the Racing Brake slotted rotor set with Hawk HPS pads from Heel Toe Auto and I was VERY happy with them. As already mentioned the hawk pads do have a bunch of dust, but the stopping power was great in either warm or cold climate as long as you bedded the brakes correctly.

I was also very happy with the service from heel toe auto along with the brake kit. The person I dealt with is a vendor on acurazine named Marcus. Try contacting him on his website and see if he can help you.

HQTL6SPD

Handruin, I checked out the site, but they don't have anything really for the 3gen TL; in terms of brakes.

Handruin

I sent MrHeelToe a PM to chime in here if he was interested. Maybe he has something for the 3rd gen TL and it isn't listed on his site. I'm not affiliated in any way...just wanted to share a good experience.

You did hint that dust was an issue for you, so the Hawk HPS might not be the right pad for you in that area. I felt the dust was at least the same as OEM, maybe slighty more (for the TSX).

landphoto

Try TireRack.com Brembo rotors.

HQTL6SPD

Thanks Handruin, I apreciate your help.

Tirerack has brembo slotted discs for 04+ TL MT??

MrHeeltoe

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Handruin, thanks for the awesome comments. Although I have to say in my experience the HPS pads scarcely dust more than stock. The 3g MT brakes create a lot of dust as is. One of the great things we find about the HPS is that the dust level is not all that different from stock.

Brembo rotors are good rotors to put on the car, for sure. But just know that they are scarcely any different than stock rotors and will not consititute a significant upgrade from stock. We do have racingbrake rotors for the 3G AT, but the MT is still in development.

Marcus

HQTL6SPD

anyone know the factory spec/fitments for our brembo rotors? i want to call different places to see if they carry slotted rotors that will fit.

johnny--2k

evo/sti rotors will NOT fit since the hub bore is different.

Just hold off for the rotoras. It's only 2 more months.

HQTL6SPD

any updates on rotora?

pikabb

I am getting ready to replace my rotors and didn't want to start a new thread, so I'm sorry for reviving this older one.

I am stuck between the Racingbrake and the Rotora slotted rotors for my 05 Automatic TL. The Rotora ones have been out for much longer so I was able to find a lot of posts on them, but I haven't seen much in terms of the Racingbrake. Can anyone provide some insight on which rotors may be better? Thanks in advance.

MrHeeltoe

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Specialized Alloy.
In-house designed molds.
Curved Vanes.
Heat treat.
Cross cut faces.


Racingbrake =

FiveLiterCheater

Does RacingBrake have anything for the 3G TL? I don't see it on your site

Excelerate

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Here is some info on ROTORA:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324531

01tl4tl

3g rotors are now available- Marcus is updating his website as we speak.
Call him direct for current info
1-949-295-1668