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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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Bluetooth phones suck anyways

Getting ready to switch services to utilize blue tooth hfl, but it's not even worth it. The phones all suck. I want a professional looking phone. I would take the V600 or V710 which either don't exist or cost and arm and a leg. Not even worth the effort. Great feature, too big of a pain in the ass though. Stupid kids phones. NO MORE CAMERAS!
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Your point?
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Ok sorry let me elaborate...You sound like a little kid whining. You drive a technologically advanced vehicle, things are not cheap. This post is one of the worst I've seen around here.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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my point was bluetooth phones suck
not worh downgrading service, and paying a forutune just to get a shitty phone that is easier to use while in the car
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Ok sorry let me elaborate...You sound like a little kid whining. You drive a technologically advanced vehicle, things are not cheap. This post is one of the worst I've seen around here.
u'r right, I am a little kid.
You wouldn't know a good post if it bit you in the ass Mr. 7 posts (2 of ehich are retarded responses)

Let me elaborate, I am under 22 years old, bought a TL free and clear and make 6 figures. Who the F#*& are you.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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jrudd - don't be so hard on the guy. Maybe his way of putting things was a little off-color, but he DOES have a point.

I have Sprint service and can't really switch b/c it's the only service that has no dead spots in the buildings where I work. (I had Cingular and Verizon in the past; Verizon was better around town but no good at work, which is mostly where I use my phone; Cingular sucked universally.)

I have a GREAT phone that does all the things I want and need it to do - speakerphone, long battery life, non-flip, web access, clear sound, etc.

Now that my TL has arrived (pickup tomorrow) I sure would like a bluetooth phone for it. But Sprint only offers one, and you can't check it out in their stores, you can only get it online. I don't even know if I'll like it or how well Sprint will support it down the line.

Plus who needs to spend $$$ on a phone when they have a perfectly good one?

Plus I've read SO MANY complaints and problems on this forum about the phones getting hung up, screwing up, causing problems in the car, etc.

Plus, when you think about it, although hands-free is surely safer than hands-on, study after study is revealing that IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY UNSAFE to drive while using a cell phone, even hands-free. One's mind is simply not sufficiently engaged to the task of keeping one's car in motion while avoiding other objects (cars, trees, pedestrians, deer, and so forth).

So the more I think about it, while I intend to use as many of my TL's gadgets to their fullest extent as possible, I'm sort of feeling the same way as the original poster about the whole bluetooth phone thing. I don't need it. The heck with it. I probably won't pursue it until/unless Sprint has several good models to select from, and provided I can promise myself not to use it while driving, which might be too tempting to avoid!

Now for others the TL's bluetooth capability may be a great thing. I just hope you can understand where the sentiment is coming from for those of us who might not think so.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Congrats on the new car
Sprint is actually the worst over here

My phone is the old vader. Real small flip phone, no color, no option, nothing! I love it, just use it as a phone. Battery lasts forever.

Seems like all these new phones are geared towards trends and kids these days no leaving room for the professional types (prob don't buy phoens that often). I also like teh V60 and my Start Tac was pretty good too.

Too bad there is no blue tooth add on that has hfl, that would be the optimal solution
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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I disagree. I've only tried one model of BT phone with this car, but while not perfect, my phone (SE T608) pretty much contradicts nearly everything you said. I'm not sure what "professional looking" means, but it's candy bar style, small and pocketable, no camera, excellent reception with no external antenna, it's dropped maybe two calls since the day I activated it, syncs up wirelessly with my PC, works flawlessly with HFL, $99 after $100 rebate, hardly an arm and a leg, and for an extra $5/month, I get free roaming, so I can drive just about anywhere and always be within reach. The only nit picky gripe I have with it is I can't read the display with sunglasses. I wouldn't call it a crappy phone at all, nor would I be so quick as to slam every other BT phone out there without at least giving them an objective look.

CLGator, I use Sprint. You can't get it online,only get it through Telesales. I think it's worth it. If you don't like it, you can always send it back for a full refund. What do you have to lose?
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Be patient as those phones are coming soon and will be substantially cheaper than what you see in eBay or others. Plus, with your 6 figure salary, I am sure you can afford one or two.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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UminChu - thanks for the info. Your phone is, I believe, the only one I can get as a Sprint user, but it's also available on some other networks. Are you on Sprint? Do you know if that rebate is still available? For $99 I might be willing to give it a try. Also, do you know if they make a leather case for that phone that has a separating belt clip? (That's VERY IMPORTANT for me.)

Thanks!
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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I got a cheapo T68i that looks fine. I swap the SIM card with my Blackberry.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Always been partial ro flip phones for some reason
can't accidently dial anyone and no need to lock keys

$ wasn't so much the problem if it is a phone I like, as much as they are not available yet. They do have a lot of features I would find useless though and that prob eat that battery such as dual color display. We shall see
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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UminChu - thanks! That was quite clever of you, editing a post so that you (telepathically) provide the answer to my question before I've even asked it!

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Nextel doesn't even have Bluetooth, so I can't even get a crappy phone from them... And when they do, if ever, get Bluetooth, the phone will probably cost freakin $250...
Moreace- what do you do??? Man.. I'm doing something wrong.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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ha, I do a lot actually

I do some consulting on commercial leases
I work on investments in real estate and in the stock market
I am a mortgage broker
I also do some asset management (leasing, marketing, dealing with tenants....... pretty much anythign that has to do with the group of properties I control)
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Hmmm.... bluetooth phone with a camera. Just out of curiosity I wonder if you could voice command the camera shutter while driving?

Not that I want these gadgets on a phone but I am curious if it could be done.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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V500

I have a V500 on T-Mobile and it works great! The V600 should be for sale here in the states in April/May of this year for AT&T, and hopefully for T-Mobile in July/Aug...

If you really can't wait, just go on ebay or to http://www.myworldphone.com and buy a V500 for about $350. If you have a GSM provider, it's a small price to pay for a good Bluetooth phone.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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I agree. The bluetooth phones with service that I can use have the camera. Which in my line of work, I would have to leave it in the car all the time or at a desk. Just for the pure fact it has a camera on it.

I wish nextel would come out with something soon someone with major city coverage that is business professional and of good quality.


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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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I think I may go month to month for a while and see what happens w/ the V600 and V710. Gimme a little more running time to make a final decision
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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I just got my SE T608 two days ago, and as phones go, I love it! It has more features and better reception than my last two Samsung Sprint phones. My TL doesn't arrive until end of month, so I can't comment on the hands-free features yet. But so far I would definitely recommend the T608.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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Let me elaborate, I am under 22 years old, bought a TL free and clear and make 6 figures. Who the F#*& are you.

Did you really say that?
Gimme a break...

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Zuubah
Did you really say that?
Gimme a break...

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Glad someone else noticed...
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Whassabi JRudd!
What part of FW are you from?
I am in south FW, by 35 and 20.
Drive a anth TL, unless my wife is driving it...

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by CLGator
UminChu - thanks for the info. Your phone is, I believe, the only one I can get as a Sprint user, but it's also available on some other networks. Are you on Sprint? Do you know if that rebate is still available? For $99 I might be willing to give it a try. Also, do you know if they make a leather case for that phone that has a separating belt clip? (That's VERY IMPORTANT for me.)

Thanks!
You're most welcome. I think the rebate might have expired on 1/31, but IMO, the phone is still worth $200 just for the safety advantages of HFL. I don't know if there's a leather case specifically for a T608. I just drop it in my pocket and don't worry about it. There are pics posted on the wireless forums of people using cases and other accessories from other SE phones like the T610, T616, etc. Target sells a lot of generic accessories for cheap, or you can pay more at Best Buy, Circuit City or Radio Shack. I saw a case at Target from Body Glove that seemed like it would fit and IMO, looked pretty cool for about $15. You probably won't need a new car charger either. Sanyo and Samsung chargers plug right into the side and work great.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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Call me cheap (I'm not, but you can call me it anyway ) but somehow the extra $100 is a barrier for me, especially since I love the phone I have now.

Am I wrong to assume that if I order the new phone, once it's activated my old phone won't be active? I've been told by Sprint representatives that you can't have two phones active on the same network for the same number at the same time.

I might just do as Novice suggested - wait and see. I'm leasing the car for three years. If Sprint doesn't offer a wider variety of bluetooth phones during that time frame, well, then it wasn't meant to be.

(On the other hand, if anyone knows of a rebate for the T608 that's still good, please let me know! )
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Originally posted by CLGator
Call me cheap (I'm not, but you can call me it anyway ) but somehow the extra $100 is a barrier for me, especially since I love the phone I have now.

Am I wrong to assume that if I order the new phone, once it's activated my old phone won't be active? I've been told by Sprint representatives that you can't have two phones active on the same network for the same number at the same time.

I might just do as Novice suggested - wait and see. I'm leasing the car for three years. If Sprint doesn't offer a wider variety of bluetooth phones during that time frame, well, then it wasn't meant to be.

(On the other hand, if anyone knows of a rebate for the T608 that's still good, please let me know! )
I'll preface this by saying that I have no financial interest in SPCS or SE and I'm not trying to sell you a phone. That said, I'm of the opinion that there is a real and tangible safety aspect and advantage to the HFL feature. It honestly serves to keep your eyes and hands where they belong. Even more so if you have a 6MT. Some label the mere act of carrying on a conversation while driving as a distraction, and they may be right. But if you ever talk to a right seat passenger while driving, talking via HFL is very nearly the same thing. You bought or leased a very nice car; is an extra $200 investment in your own safety (not to mention the convenience) so steep? No matter how you look at, you still win.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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Umin makes another good point...

If more peeps got the TL & a BT phone, my middle finger would get less of a workout!!!

If you ever see an ANTH TL cruising around, motioning for peeps to hang up their phone and drive, then gimme a wave!

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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GLGator:

Too bad you don't have AT&T (their customer service sucks by the way). After I got my TL, I purchased a Siemens S56 for $80 from ebay for the first time in my life and used the SIM card from my old phone (Mot T721). It works extremely well. Well, I kinda miss using Mot T721. When Mot V600 comes down below $150, may be I will get one I guess. I tried to find out if I can use the Siemens one in the car and Mot T721 outside the car. Apparently it is not possible....
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I hear what y'all are saying about the safety thing, but see, right now I don't use my phone AT ALL while I'm driving. (OK, that's a slight fib. Once a month or so I do make a quick call, but I feel guilty about it.)

So in a stupid way, I might actually be LESS SAFE by getting this phone, because then I wil definitely be tempted to make calls while driving!

I know, it sounds idiotic, but it makes convoluted sense!

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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If you are looking for a BT phone with no frills (no color/camera), Look at the SonyEricsson T39 or the Nokia 6310i. Receiption on both phones are awesome. I have friends that go to BU with T-Mobile and have no problems with reception. Even though your comment was a bit brash, I understand your point.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by CLGator
I hear what y'all are saying about the safety thing, but see, right now I don't use my phone AT ALL while I'm driving. (OK, that's a slight fib. Once a month or so I do make a quick call, but I feel guilty about it.)

So in a stupid way, I might actually be LESS SAFE by getting this phone, because then I wil definitely be tempted to make calls while driving!

I know, it sounds idiotic, but it makes convoluted sense!

Doesn't sound stupid to me. I'll just agree to disagree while respecting your choice as what you feel is right for you. T608s were in very limited, finite supply. Chances are they might be gone by now anyway. If there's any left, I might be tempted to grab one just to keep my options open.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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That's a good point.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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...btw, the Motorola V600 is out. Carriers don't carry it but that doesn't mean you can't buy it elsewhere.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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wtf is a professional looking phone? I agree that cameras on phone are stupid and pointless. why not make that extra feature a speaker phone so these dumb asses who cannot drive without talking at least would be looking at the road while talking? being a sprint user I am stuck waiting until may so that I can get a rebate on my sanyo 4900 towards the bluetooth. ideally the hitachi g1000 would be bluetooth since it would cost me only 349 and has all the features I want except for the stupid camera. I cant believe I just said only and 349 regarding phone price.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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I got lucky, we bought T610's back in December for our company and who would'a thunk it, they work great with the TL.
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Originally posted by moreace
u'r right, I am a little kid.
You wouldn't know a good post if it bit you in the ass Mr. 7 posts (2 of ehich are retarded responses)

Let me elaborate, I am under 22 years old, bought a TL free and clear and make 6 figures. Who the F#*& are you.
We've got a real winner here with us now...

Welcome:smackhead:
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by bdowell
We've got a real winner here with us now...

Welcome:smackhead:

Yea, I'm new. Look at my post count vs yours dumb @ss. Way to change the topic yet again when everyone else has been talking about phones for the majority of the thread. Do u post just for the sake of posting?

Hey will one of you moderators lock this down before the retards hurt themselves
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Wow, you overwelm me with your kind words.
We look forward to all your valuable knowledge:p
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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Wow, you overwelm me with your kind words.
We look forward to all your valuable knowledge:p
maybe if you didn't find it necessary to post irrelevant stupid comments and be productive than kinds words would follow. I have never had anything bad to say before this thread and that includes on a-tsx.com as well. SOme smart ass people find the need to attack people and be annoying on a friendly forum and it is uncalled for and I wont be nice in response to it.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Sorry, I just noticed that you weren't new. I just assumed since you were coming in sayin "Hey, I'm 21 making over $100,000 a year! Who the F*ck are you?" that you were just a cocky rookie, but you're obviously just a cock to some people since you are so much better than the rest of us.
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