Bluetooth not holding linking
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Bluetooth not holding linking
Hello All,
Ok I linked my T68i Sony Ericsson to the car…. It worked fine for about a week or so and then today I went to use it and it did not recognize it not even on the dashboard or on the screen with the phone emblem has anyone encountered this problem.
Ok I linked my T68i Sony Ericsson to the car…. It worked fine for about a week or so and then today I went to use it and it did not recognize it not even on the dashboard or on the screen with the phone emblem has anyone encountered this problem.
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Sadly, though it is being widely adopted, Bluetooth is notorious for dropping calls. You'll also be in a bad way if another TL driver pulls up directly beside you - he/she will be able to monitor your phone conversations.
That's why a number of carriers won't adopt Bluetooth - they're gonna wait for WIFI or SPH (or is that PSH?).
Unfortunately, both Bluetooth and DVD-A are somewhat of a gimmick to sell cars. How many people are going to replace their entire audio collection with DVD-A audio discs? They'd have been better off developing a better conventional stereo with improved treble response. Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
That's why a number of carriers won't adopt Bluetooth - they're gonna wait for WIFI or SPH (or is that PSH?).
Unfortunately, both Bluetooth and DVD-A are somewhat of a gimmick to sell cars. How many people are going to replace their entire audio collection with DVD-A audio discs? They'd have been better off developing a better conventional stereo with improved treble response. Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
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Since 70% of cell airtime is burned while mobile, the carriers will be hard pressed to ignore BT for much longer. Most, if not all of the auto manufacturers have BT programs underway. Acura got a jumpstart on everyone (except Lexus). The BT automotive tidal wave will start in 05.
As far as WiFi is concerned, there are some power management issues to be fixed before you'll see widespread implementation in handsets. Having said that, the writing is on the wall for BT. WiFi has more applicability across a broader installed base and will most likely start showing up in handsets for the commercial market by 05. The power management element wil be fixed eventually. Give the car guys a couple of years to get comfortable with the technology and the earliest you'll see WiFi in mass production cars is 07. It'll extend much further than a simple HF link and include remote diagnostics, car to car communications and broadband multi media downloads from gas stations or the home.
As far as WiFi is concerned, there are some power management issues to be fixed before you'll see widespread implementation in handsets. Having said that, the writing is on the wall for BT. WiFi has more applicability across a broader installed base and will most likely start showing up in handsets for the commercial market by 05. The power management element wil be fixed eventually. Give the car guys a couple of years to get comfortable with the technology and the earliest you'll see WiFi in mass production cars is 07. It'll extend much further than a simple HF link and include remote diagnostics, car to car communications and broadband multi media downloads from gas stations or the home.
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SOmetimes I have to reconnect my S/E 616 by going to the bluetooth menu on the phone and selecting "connect" and then the HFL device. This has only happened twice over 2400 miles. Usually this happens if I try to use the handset in the car.
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Originally posted by Gundar
Sadly, though it is being widely adopted, Bluetooth is notorious for dropping calls. You'll also be in a bad way if another TL driver pulls up directly beside you - he/she will be able to monitor your phone conversations.
Sadly, though it is being widely adopted, Bluetooth is notorious for dropping calls. You'll also be in a bad way if another TL driver pulls up directly beside you - he/she will be able to monitor your phone conversations.
BT is the best way of networking available for the short distance.
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Gundar,
Gonna have to disagree with you here on all counts.
First, Bluetooth has integrated security (8-128bit encryption) for the Hands Free Profile (HPF) specification that the TL uses:
http://ncsp.forum.nokia.com/download...rview_v1_0.pdf
This means that evesdropping is highly unlikely unless someone pulls up next to you and somehow guesses the random keycode that both your car and your cellphone used when initially paired. Even in this case, if they did guess the keycode, it wouldn't service both phones simultaneously. So, evesdropping is pretty much never going to happen, at least according to the Bluetooth specification.
Second, DVD-A is not a car-selling gimmick. It wasn't even intended for the car when created. It's a high-resolution, surround sound alternative to the CD. For people who enjoy hi-fideility reproduction, DVD-A and SACD are very exciting audio innovations. For those who don't, the TL still plays back your trust CDs with aplomb.
Third, wattage by itself has nothing to do with a cleaner sound. The quality of the amplifier, pre-amplifier, cables, and power equally contribute to the quality of audio reproduction.
A 100W/channel Sony receiver in Circuit City will sound noticably crappier than a 40W/channel McIntosh amp sold in a hi-fidelity shop.
Fourth, the fact that the TL has a dedicated, frequency-limited 8" subwoofer does volumes for clarity of reproduction... all the watts that would be needed to force low frequencies to 6x9 speakers in the rear are now saved and efficiently routed to a dedicated 8" woofer intended to soley output lows. An amp requires much less power to power mids and highs. It's the lows that require the most power. This is why the TL's stereo doesn't need as much power to produce a much better -- and clearer -- sound than the TSX.
Jon
Gonna have to disagree with you here on all counts.
First, Bluetooth has integrated security (8-128bit encryption) for the Hands Free Profile (HPF) specification that the TL uses:
http://ncsp.forum.nokia.com/download...rview_v1_0.pdf
This means that evesdropping is highly unlikely unless someone pulls up next to you and somehow guesses the random keycode that both your car and your cellphone used when initially paired. Even in this case, if they did guess the keycode, it wouldn't service both phones simultaneously. So, evesdropping is pretty much never going to happen, at least according to the Bluetooth specification.
Second, DVD-A is not a car-selling gimmick. It wasn't even intended for the car when created. It's a high-resolution, surround sound alternative to the CD. For people who enjoy hi-fideility reproduction, DVD-A and SACD are very exciting audio innovations. For those who don't, the TL still plays back your trust CDs with aplomb.
Third, wattage by itself has nothing to do with a cleaner sound. The quality of the amplifier, pre-amplifier, cables, and power equally contribute to the quality of audio reproduction.
A 100W/channel Sony receiver in Circuit City will sound noticably crappier than a 40W/channel McIntosh amp sold in a hi-fidelity shop.
Fourth, the fact that the TL has a dedicated, frequency-limited 8" subwoofer does volumes for clarity of reproduction... all the watts that would be needed to force low frequencies to 6x9 speakers in the rear are now saved and efficiently routed to a dedicated 8" woofer intended to soley output lows. An amp requires much less power to power mids and highs. It's the lows that require the most power. This is why the TL's stereo doesn't need as much power to produce a much better -- and clearer -- sound than the TSX.
Jon
Originally posted by Gundar
Sadly, though it is being widely adopted, Bluetooth is notorious for dropping calls. You'll also be in a bad way if another TL driver pulls up directly beside you - he/she will be able to monitor your phone conversations.
That's why a number of carriers won't adopt Bluetooth - they're gonna wait for WIFI or SPH (or is that PSH?).
Unfortunately, both Bluetooth and DVD-A are somewhat of a gimmick to sell cars. How many people are going to replace their entire audio collection with DVD-A audio discs? They'd have been better off developing a better conventional stereo with improved treble response. Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
Sadly, though it is being widely adopted, Bluetooth is notorious for dropping calls. You'll also be in a bad way if another TL driver pulls up directly beside you - he/she will be able to monitor your phone conversations.
That's why a number of carriers won't adopt Bluetooth - they're gonna wait for WIFI or SPH (or is that PSH?).
Unfortunately, both Bluetooth and DVD-A are somewhat of a gimmick to sell cars. How many people are going to replace their entire audio collection with DVD-A audio discs? They'd have been better off developing a better conventional stereo with improved treble response. Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
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Originally posted by Gundar
Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
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Originally posted by Gundar
Sadly, though it is being widely adopted, Bluetooth is notorious for dropping calls. You'll also be in a bad way if another TL driver pulls up directly beside you - he/she will be able to monitor your phone conversations.
Sadly, though it is being widely adopted, Bluetooth is notorious for dropping calls. You'll also be in a bad way if another TL driver pulls up directly beside you - he/she will be able to monitor your phone conversations.
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Originally posted by Gundar
Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
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Originally posted by pedalermike
Since 70% of cell airtime is burned while mobile, the carriers will be hard pressed to ignore BT for much longer.
Since 70% of cell airtime is burned while mobile, the carriers will be hard pressed to ignore BT for much longer.
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee...02/focus2.html
Johnson Controls' product for factory installations carries the name BlueConnect, which takes its name from the use of Bluetooth technology, a form of wireless connectivity based on short-range radio wave frequency.
Industry experts believe BlueConnect and other products like it have potential, especially given the proposed legislation in many states that would ban the use of handheld cell phones and cause consumers to turn to hands-free systems.
Almost 50 percent of consumers are likely to buy such a product in their next new car, according to a study by Gartner G2, a division of Gartner Group, a technology research and consulting firm in Stamford, Conn.
Industry experts believe BlueConnect and other products like it have potential, especially given the proposed legislation in many states that would ban the use of handheld cell phones and cause consumers to turn to hands-free systems.
Almost 50 percent of consumers are likely to buy such a product in their next new car, according to a study by Gartner G2, a division of Gartner Group, a technology research and consulting firm in Stamford, Conn.
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Here's my vote for Gundar to banned only to the Off Topic forum where he belongs. Seems everywhere he goes, he likes to stir up trouble. Always writing about something of which he has little or misguided knowledge. Another thread (Horn Stuck on) was taken off completely due to Gundar's inflamatory remarks. I'm sure he takes great joy out of doing this. For those who doubt, just read his response to this post.
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I agree with you HacksawHilliard.
Gundar is a tree-hugging, liberal-loving, a s s-kissing, p u s s y-whipped ignoramous who has not the guts to comprehend that this is the greatest nation on earth, evolved to bring the world into our fold. And we got that way with hard-work, sacrifice and elbow-grease, something Democratic fools will NEVER understand. And thanks to US (that's U.S. "bubba Gundar"), the world is minus one more dictator, no thanks to your insignificant country!
Sorry about the political rant. I LOVE MY NEW TL!!!
Gundar is a tree-hugging, liberal-loving, a s s-kissing, p u s s y-whipped ignoramous who has not the guts to comprehend that this is the greatest nation on earth, evolved to bring the world into our fold. And we got that way with hard-work, sacrifice and elbow-grease, something Democratic fools will NEVER understand. And thanks to US (that's U.S. "bubba Gundar"), the world is minus one more dictator, no thanks to your insignificant country!
Sorry about the political rant. I LOVE MY NEW TL!!!
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Originally posted by HacksawHilliard
Here's my vote for Gundar to banned only to the Off Topic forum where he belongs. Seems everywhere he goes, he likes to stir up trouble. Always writing about something of which he has little or misguided knowledge. Another thread (Horn Stuck on) was taken off completely due to Gundar's inflamatory remarks. I'm sure he takes great joy out of doing this. For those who doubt, just read his response to this post.
Here's my vote for Gundar to banned only to the Off Topic forum where he belongs. Seems everywhere he goes, he likes to stir up trouble. Always writing about something of which he has little or misguided knowledge. Another thread (Horn Stuck on) was taken off completely due to Gundar's inflamatory remarks. I'm sure he takes great joy out of doing this. For those who doubt, just read his response to this post.
I do not believe that he owns, or is particularly knowledgable about the car, either.
Strictly a troll.
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From: 3rd stone from the Sun
Originally posted by Gundar
Sadly, though it is being widely adopted, Bluetooth is notorious for dropping calls. You'll also be in a bad way if another TL driver pulls up directly beside you - he/she will be able to monitor your phone conversations.
That's why a number of carriers won't adopt Bluetooth - they're gonna wait for WIFI or SPH (or is that PSH?).
Unfortunately, both Bluetooth and DVD-A are somewhat of a gimmick to sell cars. How many people are going to replace their entire audio collection with DVD-A audio discs? They'd have been better off developing a better conventional stereo with improved treble response. Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
Sadly, though it is being widely adopted, Bluetooth is notorious for dropping calls. You'll also be in a bad way if another TL driver pulls up directly beside you - he/she will be able to monitor your phone conversations.
That's why a number of carriers won't adopt Bluetooth - they're gonna wait for WIFI or SPH (or is that PSH?).
Unfortunately, both Bluetooth and DVD-A are somewhat of a gimmick to sell cars. How many people are going to replace their entire audio collection with DVD-A audio discs? They'd have been better off developing a better conventional stereo with improved treble response. Hell, even the TSX has 360 watts, as opposed to the TL's 220. And as any audiophile knows, more power equates to 'cleaner' sound.
A) Bluetooth IS NOT known for dropping calls
B) A TL driver next to you WILL NOT BE ABLE to monitor calls
C) Carrier's are NOT choosing WiFi over Bluetooth.
How can you spread filth like this! NOT ONE WORD OF THE ABOVE POST IS TRUE!
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From: 3rd stone from the Sun
Re: Bluetooth not holding linking
Originally posted by MiamiFLFrank
Hello All,
Ok I linked my T68i Sony Ericsson to the car…. It worked fine for about a week or so and then today I went to use it and it did not recognize it not even on the dashboard or on the screen with the phone emblem has anyone encountered this problem.
Hello All,
Ok I linked my T68i Sony Ericsson to the car…. It worked fine for about a week or so and then today I went to use it and it did not recognize it not even on the dashboard or on the screen with the phone emblem has anyone encountered this problem.
The T68i was one of the first Bluetooth Hands-Free phones and as such may have some of the bug issues of being first. Check you software version and see if your provider can update the phone for you.
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