JackSampson

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My gf just bought a 2011 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T Auto base. It's a pretty nice car even though it is missing a few of the now standard luxury items I have gotten used to. My TL is paid of but I am not really in a position to buy anything right now. Maybe near the end of the year. I would go with a little higher end model than she has. I hear the 3.8 is pretty sweet. Anybody have thoughts or actually traded your TL for a Gen?

callahan

I was thinkig about doing the same thing, btw gen coupe only has 2.0t and 3.2, there not a option to get the 3.8. I love the way they drive and look, the only thing holding me back is it's a Hyundai.

kevinballer08

you have it the other way around. there's no 3.2, theres a 3.8 option

Souljah

I thought about it. When it came down to it, the genesis wasn't for me. The styling was awful and the 2.0T is weak. I honestly thought it was be a lot quicker.

JTS97Z28

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I think they are kinda cool looking cars but I couldnt for the life of me bring myself to buy a Hyundai. I know I know im sure they are good quality cars, but I just couldnt do it. have fun explaining to your friends how you just bought a Hyunai haha. Even that new Kia Optima looks cool in the commercials but I couldnt do that either.

James

LasVegasTL

They're really nice cars. I think Hyundai has really stepped their game up with some of their newer models. Me personally I always preferred to have a 4 door.

pttl

I would do it. I'm pretty much done with FWD cars - for a while anyway. I'm actually looking into higher HP (300+) RWD coupes right now. My TL has been great but it won't be too much longer before I move on from Honda/Acura.

If I were to do a Gen Coupe it would definitely be the 3.8. The 2.0T is way too weak.

ionojimbo

not to change the subject but i didnt like the tiburons until the latest one came out. it reminded me of a s15 silvia.

TLperfection

I don't think I could lose the convenience of 4 doors.

BigPZ

A family friend recently bought a Genesis 3.8, so naturally I had to take it out for a test drive. I never in my life thought I'd ever kick the tail out in a Hyundai, and I never thought I'd ever get out of a Hyundai with a smile on my face....I was wrong!!! A really fun car...and it's RWD !! But it still has that Hyundai stigma

Steven Bell

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Hyundai needs a luxury brand now.....(to get rid of that stigma).

ed-gsxr

^I agree with TLperfection.

riicky

i agree!!! but i always been a fan of honda/acura but getting bored of a FWD. so will probably go with bwm after the TL.

Brozee

Honda and Acura is the only foreign cars I really like besides the germans. I wouldn't ever like facing the ridicule of driving a south korean car. Now my Honda and Acura thats a diff story! Regardless of ratings/reviews I just don't like the look of them or the brand.

vill0169

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LOL why do you think the Genesis Sedan V8 didn't have a front badge? It's a nice luxury car, totally copied off of a Mercedes E class but it didn't stand a chance on the market as a Hyundai so they ditched it.


BTW, the new Equus from Hyundai is a very nice luxury car but again, no Hyundai anywhere on it. It's all its own Equus badges on it.

But yes, they make some nice luxury cars, but definitely need a new name for them.

pttl

That "stigma" exists in your own mind. In the real world....Not so much.

Maybe we need an adjustment on our sense of self.

anilhanda

Before buying my 04 TL I thought about buying a Gen coupe (also a G35 coupe), but those cars were soooo boring when I sat in them. I couldn't walk away from the notion of owning a TL, something about it just kept drawing me in.

BigPZ

Not true...While Hyundais sell well due to their striking new exterior designs, their wonderful warranties, and their reliability, many car enthusiasts still turn their noses at them...its not just me...but remember...Hondas werent well received by enthusiasts when they first strated coming to North America, and look what happened!

CLtotheTL32

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Exactly the reason why I don't have a S2000 right now.

pttl

You just made the case explaining the irrational "nose turning" at Hyundai. What Hondas are for "enthusiasts" these days? The Accord Coupe?

leedogg

imo the opinion/image of hyundais are just about on par with Honda/Toyota these days, possibly providing a little more value and only slightly inferior in performance in comparable models. I know they are manufactured in state of the art robotic factories which is why their reliability has really improved. Seems like they've got decent designers now. it could only be a matter of time before they're considered better than honda/toyota.

vietxquangstah

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well the front doesn't have any badges, but the rear has both the hyundai logo and equus badge. that car looks prettty nice

if i did ever get a hyundai it would have to be the 4 door genesis or the new equus. gotta be a 4 door

cjTL

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I like the Genesis Coupe. I like the Genesis sedan also. But I just am not a fan of their interiors for some reason. The 2012 Genesis sedan is hot as hell...

I disagree. Hyundai hasn't gained the amount of respect its Japanese competition already has established. There most certainly is a stigma with Kia and Hyundai- for now at least. They're in the exact same position Honda and Toyota were a couple decades ago. By no means are they doing poorly, but they have a bit of work to do before people regard the Hyundai name with the same confidence and familiarity as the Honda name.

Shoot2Thrill

Maybe I should start a thread, anyone consider trading in for a STI, 2012 TL, 2012 Mazda3, because those are all cars I have considered. The stigma is deserved. Really anyone considering trading in the TL for a Corvette or a Minivan. I'm still plan on keeping the 2 Acuras

BigPZ

No...Try Formula 1 for example...Team Hyundai??? Not so much...

pttl

As I've said... the stigma is in the mind only. REAL WORLD Hyundais on the street are doing everything a Honda does...some say even better.

The work you refer to, which is needing to be done by Hyundai, is being done right before your eyes.

Shoot2Thrill

Disagree, Hyundai new Sonata, Optima Turbo does not have the HP/torque marketing says it does. Consumer reports and Edmunds validate. 1700 dollars per car marketing. Look at the warranty it applies to the first owner only. Faster, better, cheaper, pick two not three as Hyundai would have you believe. Again not saying any car company is all that just Hyundai is a lot of hype.

BigPZ

Where exactly? College girls rockin elantras and sonatas doesnt count and a Hyundai Pikes Peak win has yet to transpire...ie. Stigma has yet to be disproven...

BigPZ

^my previous comment was a response to this nonsense

pttl

Formula 1? Seriously? I see a lot of formula 1 cars on the street and on Honda dealers lots.

Ok...I'm done here. I should have known better than to venture back into the "new 3G forum"

SpiderX1016

but the Honda salesman told me the Civic Si had a F1 engine.

and No, I hate the Genesis 2.0T

leedogg

that 2012 R-spec sedan does look pretty sweet...and its hard to argue with a 5.0L 429hp engine.

2012 Hyundai Genesis Sedan / 5.0 R-Spec Official Photos and Info: Hyundai Genesis News – Car and Driver
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...nfo-auto_shows

ciscopath

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Call me old-fashion but when I'm car shopping or any kind of shopping, I'm shopping for myself, not for what other people may think of it. Wanna know why I bought my TL? (A) because I liked the way it looked and (B) my wife's maiden name is Tonya L. Steward (would have gotten a Type-S if I knew one existed at the time). Never looked or thought about a Honda product before the TL. In fact, if I hadn't gotten married, a 2G Tiburon was going to be my next car. I'm a huge fan of the underdog and with the right performance mods (which the Tiburon has a much larger market due to it falling in the Tuner category), it could give the Type-S a run for it's money and then some.

In terms of the 2.0L being weak (which I can only guess is meant in comparison to the TL), I look at it this way. A Genesis 2.0 at 210 hp runs at the least 22k. It comes from the factory turbo-ed so the engine internals are already prepped for the boost "punch". Upgrade kits are readily available like the Garrett GT3582R kit which promotes 350+ hp over stock for $1,995. Throw in the add'l bells-and-whistles and you're looking at a 560+ hp Genesis for under 26k estimating.

The 3G TL (if bought new) started at no less than 27k and that's w/o NAV. Take into account the amount of engine work needed for boost prep. Take into account that the J&R turbo kit runs 5,799 plus $1,390 for the ECU which I see a thread for to TRY and reach 500 hp. Doing a running tally, we're at $34,189. Now we have those bells-and-whistles again, probably looking somewhere between 35k - 36k. My numbers are subject to scrutiny but it looks like you come out 10k cheaper with a vehicle that can outperform the TL. And of course, the obvious, RWD.

If you'd refuse to entertain a product because of some "stigma" even after hearing good things about it, then I'd tell you there were some cliffs in Norway looking for a few, good lemmings.

BigPZ

All I meant is that Honda has done a lot over the years to establish itself as a world class brand. Hyundai on the other hand is a word which to many is still synonymous with the Pony and other disasters of that vintage. It will take time for Hyundai to be taken seriously on the world stage, but they ARE headed in the right direction.

jimsta

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I thought about it as well, but I can't do a coupe... baby in the future.. but it is a nice car and i do agree that Hyunday has come up a long way but the interior is still kind of cheappy.

nj2pa2nc

we own a acura and hyundai-both excellent cars-We traded our 05 hyundai elantra GT with 100K+ problem free miles for the '11 sonata. We owned a 05 honda civic ex-se, which was bought new about the same time as the elantra. We traded the civic at 36,000 miles for the tsx. It was a P.O.S. one problem after another. Love our tsx.

SDSilverM3

Hyundai has come a long ways since the Excel days but no thanks. Show me the cliffs because, if I have a choice, Hyundai wouldn't be at the top of my list 10 out of 10 times just because they just do not appeal to me.

LaCostaRacer

Hyundai is making some great inroads to looks, performance, and quality. But a TL (let alone a TL-2) to a Genesis Coupe would not be in my cards. These are two completely different cars: 4 door .vs. 2 door being the obvious difference. I need the 4 doors on a regular basis so a 2 door is out.

Now the Genesis 4 door is another story- I would want to see how they hold up for a few more years before committing to that move.

Deep n TX

The HKS is sick nasty imo. It's a blast on Forza 3

JCharged

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I love this vid. If I had a chance to get the 3.8 I would.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfF55LIxZo4