Any problems or input with Gates timing belt kit?

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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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Any problems or input with Gates timing belt kit?

Thinking about getting the gates timing belt kit from rockauto. $133.79 seem pretty good deal. ANyone run into any issue after they installed it?



GATES Part # TCKWP329 More Info {#WPK41184} PowerGrip Premium OE Timing Belt Component Kit W/Water Pump; 5 Components (1 Belt, 2 Tensioners, 1 Idler, 1 Water Pump)
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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Wouldn't it be best to go with OEM parts? I've never heard anyone having problems with the OEM timing belt kit. Something that can fail and cause expensive damages should be done the right way imo.
I would spend the extra money and go OEM through one of our vendors just for the peace of mind.
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 11:44 AM
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i have it installed, no problems. The DIY thread is based off a Gates kit too, no problems. Around 12k miles on mine so far.

The only way you can mess it up is if it's installed wrong, really.

Everything but the water pump is OEM. The pump in the gates kit is from China. If you're afraid of that get the Aisin kit which has a japanese pump.

Unless you want to spend an extra $100 on a kit from Acura proper, buy a Gates or Aisin kit. Acura dealer's kits typically dont include the timing belt idler and include a drive belt instead. I would rather have the idler, personally.

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Wouldn't it be best to go with OEM parts? I've never heard anyone having problems with the OEM timing belt kit. Something that can fail and cause expensive damages should be done the right way imo.
I would spend the extra money and go OEM through one of our vendors just for the peace of mind.
Gates is a well known manufacturer and is one of the OEMs for Honda.

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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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I belive the gates is OEM but rebranded and only the water pump is non OEM. Rockauto also has AISIN kit for 180. Water pump for that one is OEM.
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ez12a
i have it installed, no problems. The DIY thread is based off a Gates kit too, no problems. Around 12k miles on mine so far.

The only way you can mess it up is if it's installed wrong, really.

Everything but the water pump is OEM. The pump in the gates kit is from China. If you're afraid of that get the Aisin kit which has a japanese pump.

Unless you want to spend an extra $100 on a kit from Acura proper, buy a Gates or Aisin kit. Acura dealer's kits typically dont include the timing belt idler and include a drive belt instead. I would rather have the idler, personally.



Gates is a well known manufacturer and is one of the OEMs for Honda.
Ohhh then hell yea that's not bad at all haha
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 12:17 PM
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I have 45K miles on the 329 kit. No issues. As already noted, all parts are OEM except for the water pump.

If you had bothered to read the TB DIY thread, you would know that the Gates kit has been used by many and would not have needed to start another useless TB thread

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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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I have read the TB DIY thread. This thread was to find out if anyone has any issue with the gates TB kit.
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 05:06 PM
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Decided to go with Asin kit from amazon.com. Here what I have ordered so far.

Water pump
water pump gasket + O ring
tensioner
tensioner bearing
idler bearing
timing belt
compressor belt
cam seal x 2
crank seal

am i missing anyting else?
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 08:00 PM
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I have the Aisin kit, and love it for how much I spent.
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 08:03 PM
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Gates water pumps are horrible. I sell the kits at work and we gets the pumps back all the time. Everything else in the kit is great quality just I'd stay away from using they pump.
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 06nhtsx
Gates water pumps are horrible. I sell the kits at work and we gets the pumps back all the time. Everything else in the kit is great quality just I'd stay away from using they pump.
that's good to know, anything i should look out for? excessive leaking? noise?
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 06nhtsx
Gates water pumps are horrible. I sell the kits at work and we gets the pumps back all the time. Everything else in the kit is great quality just I'd stay away from using they pump.
Another reason I got the Aisin kit instead. I heard the Aisin kit is better.
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ez12a
that's good to know, anything i should look out for? excessive leaking? noise?
Most of the failures I see are almost instant. Lots of cracked housings, leaks, broken impellers things like that. Honestly if you have gone 12k I wouldn't worry to much about it at this point. I mean I do see plenty that have no problems. I'm going to have to do my belt in the next year I will be using a gates kit. I most likely will buy an oem pump though
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 06nhtsx
Gates water pumps are horrible. I sell the kits at work and we gets the pumps back all the time. Everything else in the kit is great quality just I'd stay away from using they pump.
All the time? I kind of doubt that.

There's plenty of people on this board who've used the Gates kit and I haven't heard of a single issue with the kit.

I have 50K on the Gates kit and water pump, no issues. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this kit to anyone.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
All the time? I kind of doubt that.

There's plenty of people on this board who've used the Gates kit and I haven't heard of a single issue with the kit.

I have 50K on the Gates kit and water pump, no issues. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this kit to anyone.
In my district that I run of 10 stores we sold 491 gates tckwp kits in the 4th quarter of last year. We had 61 kits returned defective. Of the 61 kits I had 53 labor claims placed because of defective water pumps. That's roughly an 11% defect rate. Now compare that to my gmb brand new water pumps that I sell. In that same quarter we sold 1,103 pumps which had 48 labor claims placed. That is roughly a 4.5% defect rate. We had 68 days we were open for business during that quarter so that's almost one a day. I see and sign off on every single labor claim. So to answer your question yes I do see them all the time. Also if you see what I typed I recommended the kit I will be using one next year. I just will not use their water pump. And as I stated there are plenty of people running them with no problem at all.
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