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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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Another "Black Box" article

Here is a story in today's Canton Repository regarding black boxes being used in accident investigations.

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?I...&categoryID=13
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 07:19 AM
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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so i will assume TL has gotten one. thanks.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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i guess...first time hearing about this in cars. I have an 04 though...
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by berite100
so i will assume TL has gotten one. thanks.
The 07s have a black box - it's stated in the manual. They have to state it in Canada as per our privacy laws. However, it's not called a black box - something like a data recorder or something and can only be used in the event there is a court order. But we all know, if you're in an accident, the court order will find it's way to you.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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The 07s have a black box - it's stated in the manual. They have to state it in Canada as per our privacy laws. However, it's not called a black box - something like a data recorder or something and can only be used in the event there is a court order. But we all know, if you're in an accident, the court order will find it's way to you.
and 06?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by berite100
and 06?
I'm not sure about the '06s. Maybe someone with an 06 manual can open it up and check. It will say on a Canadian-sold car for certain, as these things have to be disclosed here.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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I hope someone finds a way to bypass it. Its an infringement to my privacy
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I hope someone finds a way to bypass it. Its an infringement to my privacy
part of the privacy to keep it unknown that you were doing a buck20 before you plowed into that other car???
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Its still an infringement to me, whether i was doing something wrong or not. They might as well have GPS enabled and tracking us.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by berite100
and 06?
The 04's also have a similar statement in the owners manual from my recolection.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Its still an infringement to me, whether i was doing something wrong or not. They might as well have GPS enabled and tracking us.
Very true....this makes me think of an article i read one time..two actually
One talking about every US citizen having to walk around with badges on...but now i believe it is required that you carry some type of state issued identification. Just doesn't have to be visible all the time
The other was in schools. There were going to make students wear color coded bands depending on education and bright colors at that. This article is less than a month old in the washington post...
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by need4spd
The 04's also have a similar statement in the owners manual from my recolection.
what page is it on? it may be in the same page as an 06 car.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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what page is it on? it may be in the same page as an 06 car.
I don't have my TL with me right now - I refuse to drive it in the snow. But, I remember it being near the beginning of the manual. It was this little disclaimer about 3 lines long.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Meek32v6
Very true....this makes me think of an article i read one time..two actually
One talking about every US citizen having to walk around with badges on...but now i believe it is required that you carry some type of state issued identification. Just doesn't have to be visible all the time
The other was in schools. There were going to make students wear color coded bands depending on education and bright colors at that. This article is less than a month old in the washington post...
yeah college campus cops can be pretty hardcore. they tasered some kid for not showing his id in the library. of course everyone whipped out their cameras and taped the whole thing.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KaMLuNg
part of the privacy to keep it unknown that you were doing a buck20 before you plowed into that other car???
I have to agree with you.

As much as I would hate to have to take my lumps if I was breaking the law when I had an accident and... it was recorded by a black box in my car. The time comes where eventually we'll have to stand up and be accountable for our actions.

For every person that squeezes their way out of a jam... there's someone on the other side getting screwed over.

It could very well be that the party that hit you was at fault and had a black box in their car that turned the tables in your favor.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FLBusa
I have to agree with you.

As much as I would hate to have to take my lumps if I was breaking the law when I had an accident and... it was recorded by a black box in my car. The time comes where eventually we'll have to stand up and be accountable for our actions.

For every person that squeezes their way out of a jam... there's someone on the other side getting screwed over.

It could very well be that the party that hit you was at fault and had a black box in their car that turned the tables in your favor.
What if there was an option for the driver to turn their black box off?

For example, if a speeding car (box off) hit a slow moving car (box on), the police could still get some information about the accident - Impact must have occured with x amount of force, we know that the car with the box on was travelling x mph going x direction, then they could figure out the speed, velocity of the other vehicle (which must have been speeding)?

Just a thought, there's probably other things that I didn't account for that would invalidate my theory.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pika817
I don't have my TL with me right now - I refuse to drive it in the snow. But, I remember it being near the beginning of the manual. It was this little disclaimer about 3 lines long.

thanks I will go ahead and check mine later.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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I must of skipped manual. I didn't read that recorder part
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