Is there the Voice Command feature without the Navi?

If so, what can you change/operate with the Voice?

 

Just phone controls...

 

The voice controls + Navi are well worth the 2000 bucks. Even if you don't have much use for the map, it integrates so many controls and centralizes everything to make it easier. And the voice commands are incredible.

 

I don't have Navi but I constantly hear voices telling me to get rid of the EL42's
lol

 

Excellent comment, GaleForce.
Actually I find the VC more valuable than the Navi. I really like not fiddling with the tuner knob for an FM or XM station. I really can get distracted finding the right buttons to push, but after learning a few commands, I can do it without my eyes leaving the road. If this prevents one fender bender, I will save more that the 2K.
One really cool feature of the Navi is to be in "direction up" display in a close in zoom and then you can see the curves and intersections as they come up. It is really great in the mountains, preparing you for the next set of twisties.

 

i hate using the controls for the XM, its so sensitive. i move it a small notch and it jumps like 3 stations.

 

Why would anyone not get the navi? It's the best feature on the car. Don't you all have the navi? I cannot fathom anyone that wouldn't.

BJ

 

I love the navi
The voice command is quite a useful feature. Instead of staring at the nav screen and getting into an accident, just press a button on the steering wheel and speak to the car.

Oh, all the cars in the dealership showroom are non-navi models, and there's a reason for that... they sold all the navi models I'd highly recommend getting it.

 

I love the nav. it is NOT the best feature. the accelerator pedal is.

 

stop making me cry guys.. i got no navi. MEHH!! still love my car tho

 

The integration factor is exactly why I don't want navi.
So when that computer craps out, and you *know* it will, your car is essentially useless because it controls virtually everything in the car.

I've used the climate control, radio, and everything else for years and years without any problems. The only thing I've used in a car that seriously distracts me is the phone, and Bluetooth is available in the non-navi car.

My $2k would be much better spent on AWD, if it were available as an option.

 

Why don't we all have just Rolls Royce's and drivers? They rock too.

 

Boltjames: (Pushes voice button on steering wheel) "Menu".

TL: "Main menu."

Boltjames: "Forum.....show new postings."

TL: "Now displaying new forum postings."

Boltjames: "Search.....fishacura."

TL: "Now displaying fishacura."

Boltjames: "Delete fishacura."

TL: "Deleting fishacura."

Boltjames: "Find Chinese restaurant."

TL: "I will gladly find you a chinese restaurant, but if you're going to lunch with fishacura you'd better make certain to collect his money before the bill arrives."

BJ

 

I couldn't fathom having an orange...oops..sorry, I meant camel interior. It's nothing short of hideous.

BTW - I didn't get the navi because it's a waste of money. Haven't we covered this already? This site becomes more and more lame every day. Absoultely no new information. Just the same old bullshit.

 

Camel isn't for everyone, but functionally the car is better because it has an interior, right?

We're not talking about athstetics here, we're talking function. The TL has the best nav integration of any vehicle ever made. It's a seemless part of the architecture of the car. You don't buy a product that is renouned for one specific, world-class feature and then have that feature removed. You don't order a Big Mac without special sauce. You don't buy a Rolex without the oyster perpetual movement. You don't buy an ultralight notebook without Wi-Fi. You don't buy a DVD player without progressive scan. You don't buy a TL without navigation.

BJ

 

Sure sounds like a lot [of your] opinion in here and not much fact.
If you like the navi, great. But its not the most important feature of a car.

Buying a car for the navi system is like buying a Big Mac *because* of the special sauce. Its just a small part of the total package.

And even if Acura's navis the best around, who's to say next year Kia won't come out with a better one. So what are you gonna do, trade in you TL for a Rio so you can have the best navi around?

 

AS LAME AS THE FIRST TIME YOU POSTED IT......LAST WEEK ON ANOTHER THREAD

 

There is a lot more to the TL than this one feature. It is not renouned (sp) for the navi alone. I had a loaner with the navi and I wasn't impressed. Neither was my 10 yr old for that matter. I personally think that the 270hp, bluetooth and DVD-A features are more important. More so really because I use them all the time. I wouldn't use the navi very much. Only when I travel which is once a month at best. Just like the last 10 times this was discussed, I said that if the navi system were more like $500-700 (about what you can expect at resale) I'd get it. But at $2000 it is nothing but a jack. You are either loaded with money and don't care what it costs or you are wasting your hard earned money on a little used feature that will be outdated soon. Or maybe you just suck at knowing how to get to places in which case the navi might be worthwhile. And before anyone says it, I don't buy the argument that the interior looks bad without the navi. Those who think that are simply rationalizing their purchase of the navi. Oh and BTW, what's the soon to be outdated navi system gonna cost you in the end after you've financed it for 5 years? That is if you financed it, of course. Me, I have better things to spend my money on.

 

It's clear from your sig that you're into the "sporty performance" side of the TL as opposed to the "luxury" side, so I can see why you didn't get the nav (no nav in Nascar's or Ricemobiles).

You spent your $2k on handling/power mods. I spent my $2k on additional luxury. BUT (and it's a big BUT) you could have gotten a much better handling / performing car than the TL, so why didn't you?

This is what I don't understand even after 600 something posts in this fine forum....the TL appeals to two customers:

#1 Luxury sedan car buyer looking for value. Wants a BMW5 but can't see spending that much to get it.

#2 Sporty sedan car buyer looking for luxurious amenities. The Accord is cool, but in the end the TL gives you more room and better sweeteners and takes you up a class in vehicles.

The TL is not for #3 Pure performance buyer. You could save $10k and get an Accord or any number of RWD/AWD vehicles and get much better handling and sports car qualities.

Whether you're a #1 or a #2, the nav makes perfect sense. It's the best luxury feature for the luxury buyer, and it's the best add-on for a sporty buyer. If you're a #3 the TL is the dumbest car you could have purchased. You bought a 40 year olds "I'm a cushy luxury car buyer but I'm holding onto my youth with some sport as I take the kids to daycare" daily driver when you could have purchased the Porsche Boxter you really wanted.

BJ

 

You don't see as well as you think. The only thing I hate more than a camel interior on a TL is NASCAR racing. Please don't associate me with that bullshit form of racing (or rice). I prefer Formula 1.

It's true that I like the sporty side of the TL. But, I also like the the luxury side. I just don't want or need a navi and I have no regrets.

The TL is a perfect blend performance, luxury and value as far as I am concerned. 33.33% of each. That's why I bought it. The navi system reduces the amount of value in the above concept IMO. It increases luxury though and if you're in to that, so be it. Just don't try to say that the navi system is a must have because it's not.

I can see why some have asked that you be banned. I am not for that but I can certainly see where they are coming from.

 

You bought the CAI for a whopping bonus 10 horsepower. You bought the body kit to look tough, not to be aerodynamically stable. You tinted the windows needlessly (Kentucky ain't Florida or CA). You put on the A-Spec wheels without the A-Spec suspension mods (might look nice, but not smart). You changed the tires to a more aggressive type.

You will never comprehend the value of the navigation because you are not the target TL customer. What you wanted was a $24k Accord with lots of Fast & Furious cosmetics and you thought it would be really cool to play with the rich boys in their BMW's. You bought the wrong car. I'm happy you did, as I want the TL to be successful, but you don't bring much validity to your argument on a very luxurious feature as you're not a luxury customer. If anything, you're killing yourself on both the "luxury" and "performance" levels as the lack of suspension upgrade with those wannabe A-Spec wheels means you've also compromised the handing....

The TL is not a compromise. Why did you make it into one?

BJ

 

haha. i couldn't afford it either bro. there's a 2 for 1 special on whopper's this week. wanna split the bill? i'm ready to splurge.

 

The TL is a compromise. It is a 'near luxury' sport sedan. If that's not a compromise, I don't know what is. I wanted a 'near luxury' SPORT sedan, and you wanted a 'near LUXURY' sport sedan. Happily, the TL is capable of filling both rolls admirably.

 

Damn, BJ is a fuckin' idiot and has no clue. No wonder people want him banned.

 

49.5% of the people want me banned because they're ignorant.

49.5% of the people want me lauded because they're sophisticated and have a sense of humor.

1% of the people rice up their 40 year old dadmobile's and get upset when they're challenged on their poor decision making skills.

BJ

 

Hey boltjames. Your zeal for NAVI is almost evangelical. I've come to the rather disturbing conclusion that:

NAVI is your Zaino!

Try not to scream out loud!

 

It's not a compromise; it's the perfect blend of both.

Think of it this way.....

You get a double-scoop ice cream cone and you put the chocolate on the top and the vanilla on the bottom. The chocolate tastes great and is of the right consistency, but by the time you get to the vanilla it's all mushy and a really bad experience compared to the chocolate. That's a compromise.

At the same time, your son decides to get a swirl custard affair that has both the chocolate and vanilla twisting around each other in perfect harmony. Both the chocolate and vanilla towards the top are awesome, but as you eat deeper and deeper down into the cone they both start to break down equally. That's a blend.

There are "sports" cars that suck at being luxurious. There are "luxury" cars that suck at being sporty. Then there are "sports luxury" cars that attempt to be the best of both simultaneously.

The TL isn't trying to be two different things. It's trying to be one thing that's a blend of both. It succeeds.

BJ

 

ice cream is never a bad experience

Its amusing that people try to reduce the navi to a 2000 dollar map. How about you go and spec out a system that controls ur A/C, ur radio, and ur navigation by voice, then intergrate a top of the line navigation system, and then custom mold it into your car? I bet it comes out to being pretty damn close to what you have in the TL

But BJ your forgetting about one type of customer for the TL. The poor one, who is absolutely in love with the looks of the TL and can barely afford it, but cant justify spending 2 grand when that will cover rent for the next 2 months or so.

 

Very true. However, I'd argue that they shouldn't be posting here during work-time when they could, instead, be pulling some OT to afford the nav.

BJ

 

Your anecdote is making me hungry. I took my daughters out for ice cream this weekend in my TL. They love riding in Dad's 'cool car'. It even makes going to the ice cream store more fun. We all had different flavors and all had a good time.

 

NAVI is my Zaino! Cool! Now let's see those nay-sayers take shots at the NAVI when they know its also a great tire dressing. BJ

 

Neat tricks, I wouldn't use it. If I did have it, I would still reach over and push one of the well positioned, clearly labeled buttons rather than talk to my car. None of the passionate arguments I've heard for NAVI convince me that I would actually use it.

For me, it would have added $2000 to the MSRP, plus I would have lost another $1000 in negotiating leverage. Also, I would probably still not have my car. I would not wait and pay more for a feature that I didn't want and wouldn't use.

I think I'm old enough to know what kind of ice cream I like...

 

im new to almost anything about cars and was wondering if you can get the navi installed later?

 

From what I understand.. no, not the stock system

The Acura NAVI is synced up to a lot of your car.. it's a factory feature only. Correct me if I'm mistaken.

You can, however, get yourself an aftermarket setup.

 

Because we have idiots that make safety laws in Canada that say it is too dangerous to have a navigation system with a manual transmission car. You can NOT get the Navi package on a Canadian MT TL. I would love to hear the reasoning behind this stellar call :grenade: .

 

Can't you just import a US version into Canada?

BJ

 

yeah can't you import cars from US to canada relatively easily? just come down to the states and order your US spec TL and drive it back to canada. order the dvd for canada and your good to go no??

 

Interesting posts Bolt...
But didnt you do a giant post a few weeks back emphasizing what a waste of money the Navigation System was ?

 

Nope I tried getting a navi TL a couple of years ago. Doesn't meet safety laws, no drl's etc. Glad I waited.

 

SilverJ... That would be me! As i recall in the thread, i did get alot of heat, but who the F**k cares. I like to cause trouble or calling people out only for the fact that this forum is filled with nothing more that NAVI and/or 6MT lovers who find every reason to chime in and continually justify why having NAVI is better or a 6MT is faster.

Its the same dumbasses who write in and say... 'I like asking my car where the nearest Chinese restaurant is' when they probably already know where the nearest Chinese is or 'I like telling my car to change the temperature to 65 degrees' when it would've been easer to push the blue down arrow and change your damn self.