Aftermarket or OEM ... I need Input !!
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Aftermarket or OEM ... I need Input !!
Well, my luck blows... as usual...
I was out in Riverhead today, when a prick !@#! truck driver going the other way, has a rock FLY out of the truck... i saw the rock barreling towards my car... and BAM... smacks my windshield, and puts a small spider web crack, a little bigger than a half dollar....
As i drove , a crack emerged, and continued spreading... it is deemed "unrepairable" and must be replaced
heres my beef
I have no glass coverage insurance.... They offer "extended" glass, which means if it can be repaired, no charge... if it must be replaced..... i gotta pay my deductable... my deduc. is $1000
So... OEM windshield is about $950-$1000 installed
Aftermarket , is $379.99 installed
So, since I am paying for it no matter what, i will probably get aftermarket... i just wanted to know if anybody here has experience with it, and if they are just as good? I am getting this done at SafeLite AutoGlass on long island, a pretty large and reputable place
The only differences i was able to find on acurazine, is that the OEM windshield has a "sound deadening" gas inside of it? is that BS? i am gonna really notice a sound difference in my cabin?
Thanks
Here is the initial hit...
![](http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2904/dsc04031ew4.jpg)
![](http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2904/dsc04031ew4.38495c9451.jpg)
Here is the crack that appeared within hours
![](http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3672/dsc04025tc3.jpg)
I was out in Riverhead today, when a prick !@#! truck driver going the other way, has a rock FLY out of the truck... i saw the rock barreling towards my car... and BAM... smacks my windshield, and puts a small spider web crack, a little bigger than a half dollar....
As i drove , a crack emerged, and continued spreading... it is deemed "unrepairable" and must be replaced
heres my beef
I have no glass coverage insurance.... They offer "extended" glass, which means if it can be repaired, no charge... if it must be replaced..... i gotta pay my deductable... my deduc. is $1000
So... OEM windshield is about $950-$1000 installed
Aftermarket , is $379.99 installed
So, since I am paying for it no matter what, i will probably get aftermarket... i just wanted to know if anybody here has experience with it, and if they are just as good? I am getting this done at SafeLite AutoGlass on long island, a pretty large and reputable place
The only differences i was able to find on acurazine, is that the OEM windshield has a "sound deadening" gas inside of it? is that BS? i am gonna really notice a sound difference in my cabin?
Thanks
Here is the initial hit...
![](http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2904/dsc04031ew4.jpg)
![](http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2904/dsc04031ew4.38495c9451.jpg)
Here is the crack that appeared within hours
![](http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3672/dsc04025tc3.jpg)
![](http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3672/dsc04025tc3.383d58a765.jpg)
#5
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The same thing's happened to me before. Just my opinion, but I'd go OEM windshield. Quality doesn't have to be questioned, and you'll have "Acura" windows all the way around.
It's unfortunate that you don't have glass coverage. When it happened to me, I had < 8K miles on my car. I called the insurance company and told them that I wanted an OEM replacement. They said they will only do an aftermarket replacement. I told the adjuster to let me pay my deductible, and I'll pay the difference of the cost between the OEM and aftermarket windshield out of my own pocket. (BTW, my comprehensive deductible is only $250). He said they won't do that, in reply to which I asked to speak to his supervisor. He then asked what the mileage on my car was, and then he said that in newer cars they allowed OEM replacement glass, for whatever reason. So, after speaking to the insurance company, I ended up with an OEM Acura windshield for only $250, installed. I'm insured through Progressive, btw, and this is in no way, shape, or form, a plug.
It's unfortunate that you don't have glass coverage. When it happened to me, I had < 8K miles on my car. I called the insurance company and told them that I wanted an OEM replacement. They said they will only do an aftermarket replacement. I told the adjuster to let me pay my deductible, and I'll pay the difference of the cost between the OEM and aftermarket windshield out of my own pocket. (BTW, my comprehensive deductible is only $250). He said they won't do that, in reply to which I asked to speak to his supervisor. He then asked what the mileage on my car was, and then he said that in newer cars they allowed OEM replacement glass, for whatever reason. So, after speaking to the insurance company, I ended up with an OEM Acura windshield for only $250, installed. I'm insured through Progressive, btw, and this is in no way, shape, or form, a plug.
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Originally Posted by tidus888
you know what the funny thing is... in Toronto... insurance company,, when paying for windshield damage... usually go aftermarket.
The same thing goes for body shops. They will always go for the cheaper aftermarket parts to fix your car with, and not the more expensive OEM parts from the stealership. It's all about profit margins.
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#8
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Originally Posted by princelybug
It's not really "funny". All insurance companies will usually only pay for aftermarket windshields. It's all about profit margins. If OEM was cheaper, then they'd only pay for OEM parts.
The same thing goes for body shops. They will always go for the cheaper aftermarket parts to fix your car with, and not the more expensive OEM parts from the stealership. It's all about profit margins.
The same thing goes for body shops. They will always go for the cheaper aftermarket parts to fix your car with, and not the more expensive OEM parts from the stealership. It's all about profit margins.
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#11
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A couple of things from a guy who had to replace his windshield about a month ago:
1. safelite makes a windshield that has the sound barrier layer too...it is about 200 - 300 less than OEM if i remember correctly.
2. there is a resale consideration....if i were buying a used car and noticed aftermarket glass, i'd think twice....just a thought
1. safelite makes a windshield that has the sound barrier layer too...it is about 200 - 300 less than OEM if i remember correctly.
2. there is a resale consideration....if i were buying a used car and noticed aftermarket glass, i'd think twice....just a thought
#12
^ i had NOOOO clue i didnt have glass coverage... i assumed it comes with the policy? I have high coverage on a 2008 Acura TL-S, and 2008 CLK550 Cabrio.... i didnt think i would have to "ask" for glass coverage.. i mean shit.. my carbon fiber hood, rims, exhaust, body kit are all insured under my CPE (custom parts equipment) why the hell isnt my glass covered?? :angry:
Well, i have it now... and i lowered my deductable to $500... (i am only 24, so a $250 deductable would be super expensive)....
I know the OEM is better, especially with this whole "sound barrier" but.... $400.... $1000.... ya know... if anything, now that i have full coverage, i can hope it breaks again in the near future and they'll replace it with OEM![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
But honestly... i have ATLP Jpipe, ATLP exhaust, Precat deletes.... i dont think a "quiet comfortable ride" is up my alley anymore
... my only concern is STRENGTH
i have NO strut tower brace on (edfc) and i know that effects rigidity of the the car and the windshield.....
Well, i have it now... and i lowered my deductable to $500... (i am only 24, so a $250 deductable would be super expensive)....
I know the OEM is better, especially with this whole "sound barrier" but.... $400.... $1000.... ya know... if anything, now that i have full coverage, i can hope it breaks again in the near future and they'll replace it with OEM
![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
But honestly... i have ATLP Jpipe, ATLP exhaust, Precat deletes.... i dont think a "quiet comfortable ride" is up my alley anymore
![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
i have NO strut tower brace on (edfc) and i know that effects rigidity of the the car and the windshield.....
#13
Originally Posted by godizus
A couple of things from a guy who had to replace his windshield about a month ago:
1. safelite makes a windshield that has the sound barrier layer too...it is about 200 - 300 less than OEM if i remember correctly.
2. there is a resale consideration....if i were buying a used car and noticed aftermarket glass, i'd think twice....just a thought
1. safelite makes a windshield that has the sound barrier layer too...it is about 200 - 300 less than OEM if i remember correctly.
2. there is a resale consideration....if i were buying a used car and noticed aftermarket glass, i'd think twice....just a thought
#16
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
^ i had NOOOO clue i didnt have glass coverage... i assumed it comes with the policy? I have high coverage on a 2008 Acura TL-S, and 2008 CLK550 Cabrio.... i didnt think i would have to "ask" for glass coverage.. i mean shit.. my carbon fiber hood, rims, exhaust, body kit are all insured under my CPE (custom parts equipment) why the hell isnt my glass covered?? :angry:
Well, i have it now... and i lowered my deductable to $500... (i am only 24, so a $250 deductable would be super expensive)....
I know the OEM is better, especially with this whole "sound barrier" but.... $400.... $1000.... ya know... if anything, now that i have full coverage, i can hope it breaks again in the near future and they'll replace it with OEM![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
But honestly... i have ATLP Jpipe, ATLP exhaust, Precat deletes.... i dont think a "quiet comfortable ride" is up my alley anymore
... my only concern is STRENGTH
i have NO strut tower brace on (edfc) and i know that effects rigidity of the the car and the windshield.....
Well, i have it now... and i lowered my deductable to $500... (i am only 24, so a $250 deductable would be super expensive)....
I know the OEM is better, especially with this whole "sound barrier" but.... $400.... $1000.... ya know... if anything, now that i have full coverage, i can hope it breaks again in the near future and they'll replace it with OEM
![Wish](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wish.gif)
But honestly... i have ATLP Jpipe, ATLP exhaust, Precat deletes.... i dont think a "quiet comfortable ride" is up my alley anymore
![rofl](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
i have NO strut tower brace on (edfc) and i know that effects rigidity of the the car and the windshield.....
#17
If it was a $250 difference, i would jump on it... my only options now are
1) OEM $1000
2) Aftermarket $380
3) wait it out for a few months, and get an OEM replacement for free under my full glass coverage... but... thats not a very honest thing, and im a pretty ethical guy.... plus.. the term "insurance fraud" keeps lingering in the back of my head
BUT... say i pay the $380... get an aftermarket, if it breaks in a few months, i can get an OEM replacement from insurance? then i can feel honest about having them replace it, and happy that i have an OEM
I really really want OEM... but is it worth $600 more for a piece of glass?? could OEM be that much stronger? i could quite frankly, give a sh*t about the sound proof... my car already gives all the passangers a headache once i get on the throttle...
1) OEM $1000
2) Aftermarket $380
3) wait it out for a few months, and get an OEM replacement for free under my full glass coverage... but... thats not a very honest thing, and im a pretty ethical guy.... plus.. the term "insurance fraud" keeps lingering in the back of my head
BUT... say i pay the $380... get an aftermarket, if it breaks in a few months, i can get an OEM replacement from insurance? then i can feel honest about having them replace it, and happy that i have an OEM
I really really want OEM... but is it worth $600 more for a piece of glass?? could OEM be that much stronger? i could quite frankly, give a sh*t about the sound proof... my car already gives all the passangers a headache once i get on the throttle...
#18
Burning Brakes
i would go with the OEM any day. even if it is much more expensive. but i can understand if you go aftermarket. its all about whats best for you overall. to each his own.
#19
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
If it was a $250 difference, i would jump on it... my only options now are
1) OEM $1000
2) Aftermarket $380
3) wait it out for a few months, and get an OEM replacement for free under my full glass coverage... but... thats not a very honest thing, and im a pretty ethical guy.... plus.. the term "insurance fraud" keeps lingering in the back of my head
BUT... say i pay the $380... get an aftermarket, if it breaks in a few months, i can get an OEM replacement from insurance? then i can feel honest about having them replace it, and happy that i have an OEM
I really really want OEM... but is it worth $600 more for a piece of glass?? could OEM be that much stronger? i could quite frankly, give a sh*t about the sound proof... my car already gives all the passangers a headache once i get on the throttle...
1) OEM $1000
2) Aftermarket $380
3) wait it out for a few months, and get an OEM replacement for free under my full glass coverage... but... thats not a very honest thing, and im a pretty ethical guy.... plus.. the term "insurance fraud" keeps lingering in the back of my head
BUT... say i pay the $380... get an aftermarket, if it breaks in a few months, i can get an OEM replacement from insurance? then i can feel honest about having them replace it, and happy that i have an OEM
I really really want OEM... but is it worth $600 more for a piece of glass?? could OEM be that much stronger? i could quite frankly, give a sh*t about the sound proof... my car already gives all the passangers a headache once i get on the throttle...
#21
I would go with aftermarket windshield made by PPG or Pilkington as they are OEM distributors for Honda/Acura.
You can go with Safelite, but they may be thinner than OEM specs.
You can go with Safelite, but they may be thinner than OEM specs.
#22
i dunno... i think headlight sensor for auto-headlights... or temp sensors?
i read somewhere that the acura can tell if the windsheild is really hot, and it increases the fan speed or lowers the temp in the car.. i call![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
just like the ANC =![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
just like the Sound-deadening windshield is![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
sorry.. im just grumpy about this.. either way, im out $400 minimum... for no reason... money that could have been spent on the new brakes i need so badly
i read somewhere that the acura can tell if the windsheild is really hot, and it increases the fan speed or lowers the temp in the car.. i call
![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
just like the ANC =
![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
just like the Sound-deadening windshield is
![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
sorry.. im just grumpy about this.. either way, im out $400 minimum... for no reason... money that could have been spent on the new brakes i need so badly
![Sad](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
#23
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
What did you end up replacing yours with?
#24
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Originally Posted by BLACKURA_NY
i dunno... i think headlight sensor for auto-headlights... or temp sensors?
i read somewhere that the acura can tell if the windsheild is really hot, and it increases the fan speed or lowers the temp in the car.. i call![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
just like the ANC =![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
just like the Sound-deadening windshield is![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
sorry.. im just grumpy about this.. either way, im out $400 minimum... for no reason... money that could have been spent on the new brakes i need so badly![Sad](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
i read somewhere that the acura can tell if the windsheild is really hot, and it increases the fan speed or lowers the temp in the car.. i call
![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
just like the ANC =
![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
just like the Sound-deadening windshield is
![Bullshit](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif)
sorry.. im just grumpy about this.. either way, im out $400 minimum... for no reason... money that could have been spent on the new brakes i need so badly
![Sad](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
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ouch that sucks bro! go aftermarket -- OEM is over rated imho. all that sounds barrier bs, is retarded.
like you said, a quiet ride isn't up your alley anymore
but i woulda thought you would get glass coverage with full coverage .. i have full coverage and my deductable is 500 -- my 6 month premium isn't bad either (1200)... AND i have glass coverage ---
what's your premium and such? it couldn't be that bad. get a better insurance provider imo lol
like you said, a quiet ride isn't up your alley anymore
but i woulda thought you would get glass coverage with full coverage .. i have full coverage and my deductable is 500 -- my 6 month premium isn't bad either (1200)... AND i have glass coverage ---
what's your premium and such? it couldn't be that bad. get a better insurance provider imo lol
#26
I've got progessive.. and they are AWESOME
I was paying $2010 for 6 months (CLK550 & TL-S)... $1k deductable.. now my premium is $2270 for 6 months, $500 deductable AND full glass coverage....
progessive, kicks ass... when i wrecked the BLACKURA.. they let me... actually, the PAID, to tow the car to my house and my mechanics so i could strip down all my custom parts... they didnt even require i reinstall the stock stuff, i just had to give it back (threw it all in the trunk)
All in all, that price isnt THAT bad.. considering i am 24, live in NY, and those are two expensive cars, and i wrecked the blackura just about a year ago
When i was 17.... i had to pay $3400 a year for LIABILITY only on my 1992 Ford Explorer....
I was paying $2010 for 6 months (CLK550 & TL-S)... $1k deductable.. now my premium is $2270 for 6 months, $500 deductable AND full glass coverage....
progessive, kicks ass... when i wrecked the BLACKURA.. they let me... actually, the PAID, to tow the car to my house and my mechanics so i could strip down all my custom parts... they didnt even require i reinstall the stock stuff, i just had to give it back (threw it all in the trunk)
All in all, that price isnt THAT bad.. considering i am 24, live in NY, and those are two expensive cars, and i wrecked the blackura just about a year ago
When i was 17.... i had to pay $3400 a year for LIABILITY only on my 1992 Ford Explorer....
#27
I would say aftermarket rather than outta pocket.
I had one replaced on my 03tls
And another bb type hit repaired with glass epoxy. Both free, but simple solutions. Did u try Safelite?
I had one replaced on my 03tls
And another bb type hit repaired with glass epoxy. Both free, but simple solutions. Did u try Safelite?
#28
Originally Posted by ililillilillilil
I would say aftermarket rather than outta pocket.
I had one replaced on my 03tls
And another bb type hit repaired with glass epoxy. Both free, but simple solutions. Did u try Safelite?
I had one replaced on my 03tls
And another bb type hit repaired with glass epoxy. Both free, but simple solutions. Did u try Safelite?
the damage is too big and squiggly to fix it... i actually just went out to get some smokes, and the crack grew EVEN MORE!! a whole new 10" crack spidered out from the center of the hit
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Dam.. that blows, have you shopped for the OEM windshiled and is that price the best you could get? Have you tried to see if TIM can do anything for you at Ray Laks? Call me tommorow with the best price you can get and I'll see if I can ask a buddy of mine who has a link at Acura what he can do. But let me know the best price you can get first.
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I am rocking a aftermarket one, my oem windshield cracked the 2nd month I had the car
ps. the aftermarket one also has a rock chip in it, from i95![Frown](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
no problems, no leaks just slight glare from the tan leatehr during very sunny days
ps. the aftermarket one also has a rock chip in it, from i95
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no problems, no leaks just slight glare from the tan leatehr during very sunny days
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I had an aftermarket one put in my Tacoma years ago with 0 issues.
No deductible (I thought all glass coverage was this way). Smart move picking it up; it's cheap, and smart move lowering your comp deductible. I run 250 comp/1000 collision. With all the deer these days and hail storms etc, I wouldn't feel comfortable with a higher deductible.
No deductible (I thought all glass coverage was this way). Smart move picking it up; it's cheap, and smart move lowering your comp deductible. I run 250 comp/1000 collision. With all the deer these days and hail storms etc, I wouldn't feel comfortable with a higher deductible.
#32
B16 Swapped TL
If you go after market make sure you are going with something quality.
Here is what I would pay extra close attention to..... who would be doing either install.... what is their procedures and what is their reputation?
Csmeance made a great point about the windshield being a critical component in the structural rigidity of a car...... particularly in the case of roll overs. Quality glass is one part of the puzzle, but you want a good install too.... otherwise if you get a crappy install you get leaks, and worst case in the event of a rollover the windshield pops out and you risk getting crushed.
Good move on getting that deductible down.... a $1000 deductible is almost debilitating.
Here is what I would pay extra close attention to..... who would be doing either install.... what is their procedures and what is their reputation?
Csmeance made a great point about the windshield being a critical component in the structural rigidity of a car...... particularly in the case of roll overs. Quality glass is one part of the puzzle, but you want a good install too.... otherwise if you get a crappy install you get leaks, and worst case in the event of a rollover the windshield pops out and you risk getting crushed.
Good move on getting that deductible down.... a $1000 deductible is almost debilitating.
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Allon, pbg is the best aftermarket brand windshield, my boy just put it on his I35. There is a good place on queens blvd by my restaurant. Let me know if you wanna go over there. Hit me up 1347 791 5752.
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