Does anyone know if it will be possible to add the stock TPMS unit from the 06s to an 05? I am guessing they just added on another "module" instead of replacing the entire MID system. Adding TPMS is something I would definatly do, and a lot of others here would too, so any good info would be greatly appreciated.

 

not sure as if the stock, because the screen might be on the gauge cluster? u can always add a aftermarket one.

 

I think it will use the MID like in the RL, rather than the icon as in the MDX.

 

Just wait until the '06's actually come out. No one will know for sure until then.

 

What are some aftermarket TPMSs available?

 

SmarTire has one, which I have installed on my car.

 

Did you have issues with the straps being installed incorrectly and damaging the sensor? I had to reorder 1 sensor and all the straps because of wheels issues and a sensor being strapped down too tightly. Discount is refunding me for the stuff I had to reorder though.

 

I can't believe people are so fucking lazy that they want the computer informing them of low tire pressure. Just a quick visual inspection is all it takes.

 

or even bend over and stick a guage in the valve stem....

If it came with the car as standard equipment then I would definitely consider it a + and would make use of it...but going out there and buying and installing an after market for $200 - $300 is riduculous; also one more hassle with issues like what P$$$ is having...

 

That's a rather harsh comment. Some people are too busy to check their tire pressure all the time... and it's for safety as well - what if you start getting a slow leak on the highway? It'd eventually lead to the tire blowing up, whereas the TPMS may be able to warn you and avoid this accident.

 

There is no such thing as too busy. if your that busy you shouldnt be driving the car.it takes all of 30 seconds to check the pressure. perfect time would be while your standing around filling up your tank. Also you should be able to notice a tire going low on the hwy. the car will react and ride differently with 3 tires at normal 1 low

 

What about this?

http://www.blueserker.com/html/modul...rder=0&thold=0

Bluetooth tire pressure monitoring system

 

Agreed!!!

 

I agree with you, but my wife who has many other more pressing concerns never looks at the tires, let alone checks the pressure. It's not high on her priority list. TPMS saves me the risk of injury/death for my wife/kids.

 

Soon people will be asking if the SH-AWD from the 2017 model will fit in a 1997 first gen 2.5.

 

Personally, I almost always do a quick visual check, but only about 2-3 times/mo with a pressure gauge or whenever I suspect a low pressure/leak/etc.

BUT, there are times where you are in a hurry - say, you're late to an important meeting, your family/friends are in trouble, or the chick's husband came home early.

Also, some people just don't notice the low pressure (i.e. most female drivers and the elderly), whether visually or from the ride/handling. Some may put it off, think it's the road, or be completely oblivious.

You should know that a tire could start leaking air one moment, and then blow up the next. You might notice it right away. Then again, you might not.

I'd most certainly want my parents to have this feature - even if the damn thing cost $1000+.

A bit OT, but most drivers don't know how to react properly when a tire blows out - I admit I didn't either. You're better off if you mashed on the gas pedal to maintain control and then gradually reduce speed, instead of hitting the brakes right away.

 

Visual checks are NOT accurate. One of the big tire companies (Michelin, maybe?) did a little experiment awhile back with a big group of car people (mag writers and testers, auto mfr. people, etc.) and over 3/4 of them failed to recognize which tires were low and which were properly inflated. This is especially true of low-profile tires, but radials in general are hard to "diagnose". When they're low enough to tell "by eye", they're usually more than 10psi down, which is too much.

Yes, you should check your tires with a gauge often, but the reality is that a lot of people forget. And in addition, you can check your tires this morning and get a nail this afternoon. Or have a slow leak and not catch it.

And laugh at TPMS's if you want, but I've come to love the one in my M45. It shows each tire separately, and the pressure shown is extremely accurate. And I have the added comfort of knowing that if I pick up a nail I'll know about it before the tire (and maybe even the rim) is screwed.

 

No issues here. I gave them the instruction booklet to follow.

 

IMHO, TPMS is a good thing. I check my tire pressures at least once or twice per month and they are always off. Cooler weather always results in lower tire pressure. Extremely cold temps always bleed tire pressure.

Even though you can feel the difference in the ride and handling, it would be a lot nicer to have a indicator/reminder gauge in your face.

 

Yah, its so stupid that it is being government mandated(sarcasm). I am sorry but I consider taking 2-3 minutes before every drive to check the tire pressure with a meter too much work. As for visual inspections, what about at night(any people here who live outside a city know this even better).

I too check our car tires monthly.

 

we don't even know what the heck the 06's TPMS consists of

 

i work at the dealership doing the TQI of all new cars and i dont have the first freaking bit of info on which system it is yet

 

Turbosam, do you know when the 06 comes in?

 

Typical type of comment.....

PA, why don't you try one of your "quick visual inspections" while driving 70 down a busy expressway - in or out of traffic, your choice.... That's what TPMS is for - not just to walk up to the car, turn the key on and say: Jimminy cricket!! All tires are full.........

The original need/use for tire monitoring system was due to "run flat" tires. My first intro to TPMS was back in 1994 when I purchased my first Vette(which I believe was the first car to be offered without a spare). Many manufacturers are starting to use run flat tires to alleviate the need for "the fifth wheel". Thus decreasing weight and making additional room for other items and/or cargo room etc. Given the ridgid sidewall of run flat's, TPMS is usually a safety requirement. Other than that, like I mentioned above, it's a great safety feature for all vehicles to inform you of insidious tire pressure issues while driving..

Besides - the computer, not to mention other systems tell us numerous things about how our vehicle is operating, whether it needs service, where we are, etc. etc. But heck, I guess those too were marketed for the sole reason that folks are just to damn "F'ing" lazy.............

 

no clue. like i said before, the general public gets more info about new stuff then we do it seems...

on a side note for those of you bitching about how dumb TPMS is, theres a good chance the government will be makin TPMS standard on ALL new cars in the next few years

 

Sometimes a quick visual inspection doesn't cut it for tire leaks. My wife with her 2005 TL had one tire with such a small leak, they counldn't find it at the tire shop. I found it with a magnifying glass and a bottle of windex.

To answer the other question about 2006 TL's, some manufacture uses the abs monitor to measure the rate of the pulses between the tires. If that's the case, it would probably be an easy add-on.

 

Honda uses a sensor that is actually part of the valve stem and it uses a receiver to get signal from each wheel.

bad news though guys, last night we had a couple of brand new 2005 TLs dropped off. this means that if they are still shipping 05s, then we are looking at roughly 2 months before we see 06s

 

Your post is completely idiotic. You obviously have never got a nail in the tire while driving and had the air pressure get so low it ruined the tire and the rim.

A quick visual inspection....Come on, get real, are you saying you walk around your car every time you get in it?

 

Now I wonder if it would be like that of the RL, or that of the MDX(does the MDX use ABS sensors or does it use the valve stem method). I heard with the MDX there is no need to reset after rotating tires so I assumed there was a short range sensor at each wheel hub in place of a central monitor, making this a harder install.

 

Not sure if they require resetting but those that use the ABS wheel sensor usually determine a "low" tire by minute changes in rotational speeds between tires. Thus, if you had significant tire wear and rotated it may sense a higher speed at the new tire position thus require reseting etc.?

Using the ABS method for determining tire issues is good in a "less electronics" since but I still like the idea of have a sensor in/on each wheel that transmits the exact pressure etc., and it wouldn't matter where the tire/wheel was mounted or how much wear was on a given tire...

just rambling... :-)

 

once again, Honda/Acuras do not use an "ABS method" they have sensors on the valve stems in the wheels. i know this for a fact b/c i have installed many of these on multiple Honda vehicles.

SPECIFICALLY: MDX, RL, Odyssey and Pilot...... i seriously doubt they will change to a different method for an update on a car that is not yet up for a major platform change

 

So when you get your tires replaced, do you need a special valve stem? Do most tire places have that?

 

Easy there....

No-one said they didn't...

 

The sensor would stay with the rim. So if you're changing tires no, if you upgrade your rims.... the "stock" sensor may or may not be transferable???

Your thoughts TurboSam?

 

Actually, last time I picked up a nail, I found out about it before I even lost any pressure. Unlike some people, I take excellent care of my car. Visual, auditory, physical, and instrumental testing are always performed on my car. You can't always depend on computers to tell you. Besides, have you ever had the TPMS go apeshit during the winter time? It's extremely annoying.

And yeah, I do make a habit of doing a quick walk-around on my car on a daily basis. My life depends on the conditions of which my car is in; I tend to make sure she's in top shape.

 

Hey, nobody said you have to check it every single time you drive your car. Just a couple of times a month would suffice in most situations. It's a part of regular maintenance, and probably one of the most neglected. When it comes down it, your life is depending on those 4 contact patches, regardless of whether you're driving a 200k-dollar Ferrari or a 9k-dollar Daewoo.

I was driving back to school a while back on the highway and saw this Voyager in front of me. The rear left tire looked low on air, then soon after, it blew. It sent tire shreds into the air and all over the place. I had to swerve hard to miss the debris.

Could the TPMS have prevented the blow-out by informing the driver? Possibly. Could a quick visual check before getting in the car prevented the blow-out? Possibly. But all I know is that I know people who drive around with Check Engine Light on, and when I ask them about it, they go "Oh, it's been on for a while, but the car runs fine." Riiight... do you think the TPMS would help these people? I think not. They would ignore it, just like the CEL.

 

Is the TPMS going "Ape-Shit" anything like having a "Trunk Monkey"?? Or worse? Can one train the TPMS to go Ape-Shit at opportune times like said Trunk Monkey??

Just a little humor AP

Peace

 

Hey, I'm not saying the TPMS is useless or bad. It's a good safety feature and it could help save lives. But people depend on computers and other types of aids too much these days.

Since when is it so hard to check tire pressure?

Besides, TPMS will increase the productions costs, therefore prices. Also, it will cost extra when replacing tires, and/or rotating (depending on the type of system). Why the hell should I have to pay those extra costs for the system whose functions I perform on a regular basis myself, just because lazy, negligent people bitched it and the goverment had to make it mandatory?

 

No argument that it would cost a little more:
"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates the upgrade will cost manufacturers between $48.44 and $69.89 US per vehicle."
Probably equates to about $200 or so extra for the consumer. But even at $200 most of us that would spend $2K on a nav system wouldn't flinch, not to mention like the idea.


"NHTSA estimates that 120 lives a year will be saved when all new vehicles are equipped with the systems."
Now, I'm sure a percentage of the above 120 lives would be the "lazy, negligent people" who don't pay any attention to their transportation device, the others could be women, children, families etc. that were maimed/killed unknowing of a tire issue while on their long drive/vacation..

I had to wonder that the same article stated the first vehicle to have TPMS was the 97 Corvette...? My 1994 loaded convertible Vett was actually the first... It didn't give you a pressure/number per wheel yet it did tell you which wheel was dropping below ~28 psi - Sensor/transmitter was strapped to each wheel/rim. Maybe the 97 was the first to actually give you the exact #/value per wheel.

Another interesting item is the ruling stated that car manufacturers CANNOT use the ABS system (fluctuation in tire/rotation speed) to notify the driver of pending tire doom. It has to be an independent sensor in each tire notifying pressure etc.. Deadline is 2008 for all 4-tire vehicles under a given weight.

Overall It does have it's plus and minuses..

 

the sensors are transferable. there is basically a nut on the valve stem that you remove. you need an 11mm deep socket. very simple to move from wheel to wheel. the system will automatically recognize the position of the sensors onces tires are rotated based on the distance from the main control unit. battery life of the TPMS sensors is estimated at ~10yrs