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Old 11-07-2010, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandals
The chrome plating does nothing when you have the projector in the housing. I tested both and saw no noticeable difference between the projector alone vs in the housing.
Yeah. A projector is meant to project the light through the lens and that is how it magnitudes the light output. The chrome plating is for halogen housing headlights that need to reflect off of it to create its output, which the chrome part is 100% needed.

As per Roger, everyone knows what it is capable of and has seen this before. I have posted pictures with them in and the output on the garage door. If someone has anymore questions they will ask, as per selling them I don't think "better" pictures with a camera I don't have would be needed to sell them because my service is to put the two (fogs+projectors) together. Everyone knows what a projector is and the accord fog lights. I am not trying to be cocky or a dick, but if I made the projector then I would see if someone wants pictures but this MOD has been done before and its 100% better with output. No one comes to me or JNC and says make the headlights or tail lights and show me pictures first, they trust that it will come out perfect because we have done it before and specialize in that service. If I created my own tail light or headlight, then I would see how people would want to see pictures. I have a picture of it mounted on page two and page three I have one with it on facing the light and one with the output on my garage door and even though the cut off line is there and distorted because I am a foot away from the door, the output is excellent. I am not neglecting questions, and will answer any concerns, but I felt that comment came after me and I stand behind my products. Lighting can be adjusted left or right and up and down depending on how one installed the kit so just throwing that out there. If one wants this product I make them for $280 plus shipping is what I said and I have created mine so I know what it takes and made sure I could handle it before I offered the service.
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just wondering, but what fogs are you including in these? like the ebay ones, etc. and are the blazer fogs the clear or the ionized ones?
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Originally Posted by Sandals
The chrome plating does nothing when you have the projector in the housing. I tested both and saw no noticeable difference between the projector alone vs in the housing.
I think you misunderstood me, i'm not talking about the accord housing, i'm talking about the housing INSIDE the blazer projectors.

That picture I posted above is what the inside of the blazer projector looks like.


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Yeah. A projector is meant to project the light through the lens and that is how it magnitudes the light output. The chrome plating is for halogen housing headlights that need to reflect off of it to create its output, which the chrome part is 100% needed.

As per Roger, everyone knows what it is capable of and has seen this before. I have posted pictures with them in and the output on the garage door. If someone has anymore questions they will ask, as per selling them I don't think "better" pictures with a camera I don't have would be needed to sell them because my service is to put the two (fogs+projectors) together. Everyone knows what a projector is and the accord fog lights. I am not trying to be cocky or a dick, but if I made the projector then I would see if someone wants pictures but this MOD has been done before and its 100% better with output. No one comes to me or JNC and says make the headlights or tail lights and show me pictures first, they trust that it will come out perfect because we have done it before and specialize in that service. If I created my own tail light or headlight, then I would see how people would want to see pictures. I have a picture of it mounted on page two and page three I have one with it on facing the light and one with the output on my garage door and even though the cut off line is there and distorted because I am a foot away from the door, the output is excellent. I am not neglecting questions, and will answer any concerns, but I felt that comment came after me and I stand behind my products. Lighting can be adjusted left or right and up and down depending on how one installed the kit so just throwing that out there. If one wants this product I make them for $280 plus shipping is what I said and I have created mine so I know what it takes and made sure I could handle it before I offered the service.
The projectors use the lens to focus and magnify the light true but the chrome bowl contributes significantly to the output of the projector

Example Picture #1 is a blazer fog light is good condition. Pic # 2 the chrome has melted off. Yes it still works but you lost all your color and you've created a hotspot in the center of your beam pattern





I've seen some pretty shitty retros and some of them where from people who "specialize" is this type of work, they even have their own web site but still pass off shitty retros.

I'm just curious I am obviously a DIYer I would never have someone else do this type of work for me I enjoy the challenge and satisfaction doing it myself too much. I just wanted to see the attention to details in the area between the projector and the accord fog light. Also from the looks of your only picture it seems you kept the area chrome which means your probably didn't remove the lens. I would image most people would prefer these to be blacked out.


Heres a pretty good one



The least your could do is humor me with some pics, I know I didn't come up with this idea but by the looks of the thread I introduced you to it or at least motivated you to try it.
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I understand completely about what Roger says and it is true...
He wasn't knocking on your service or product, least I don't believe so.
Seems he was just concerned.

It seems he does know what he's talking about as well.
A regular foglight, or headlight, has a chrome reflector housing.
A projector, though some may not know, also has a chrome reflector housing. Depending on the shape of the bowl of the housing, the chrome-reflector and the type of lens your light output can vary.
The blazer-fog does have relatively good light output and cut-off but it is known to also be a relatively 'cheap' fog [which is not entirely a good/bad thing too].
But when paired with a set of DDM-Tuning HIDs it can have the potential to be troublesome... hence the bubbled-reflectors that Roger has provided a picture of.

Now, you're probably thinking that HIDs run cooler than halogens... that is true.
But in a tight space HIDs can run quite hot! And in fact, DDM-Tuning HIDs are known to run hotter than other HID kits.
An example of how hot DDM-Tuning HIDs are is this:
One time, I accidently left the plastic-bulb-protector on the HID as I was testing my retrofits. In the span of 3 seconds the plastic-bulb-protector began to melt considerably---the HID was still in the 'warming' stage as well.



Also, Roger, in the picture you have just provided... and in HIDIlluzion's retro, I THINK [and I'm quite sure] that the retrofitters have made a sort of 'cover'. If you notice, it's flat just at where the lens are. I do not think the Accord fogs were like that. Most retrofits include this sort of work as it hides the shape of the original bowl that is behind it--thus giving it a cleaner look.

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@Roger, I did misunderstand which chrome reflector you were talking about. I will let you know if my blazers become distorted in any way. Thanks for the heads up!

@04Komodo I noticed the same thing about those projectors, they have some kind of "frame" around them not sure how they made that. But, it looks very good.

@Ack do you have any pictures of how the fogs look, meaning how you have sealed and secured them.
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I finished my fogs. I just wanted to share a little bit of info on how i did them.

First of all, mine are not perfect and i'm fine with that. The cut off line for mine came out a little bit crooked but again I am fine with that. The hardest part i had with these was trying to get the projectors to stay in the fogs. They do not fit exactly in the housing. I used JB weld and a small aluminum piece to hold it together.

I will take more picture if anyone wants some.










All lights on ( its hard to see)
Old 11-29-2010, 08:40 PM
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Nice! This project keeps falling to the end of my list Looking good, are those the stock bulbs?
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By the looks of the color and the one wire sticking out its an HID kit.
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55W 6000K HID Kit

Last night I tested them out and i could drive with out my headlights and just the fogs. * This was just a test, I do not advise anyone to do this*
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Got any closeup pics like I was trying to get from ACK?
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oh I'd like something like that. Those projector fogs are the shit. I'd go with yellow, 3000K HIDs cuz I love that yellow foglight/white headlight look.
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What kind of projectors did you go with? Are you going to check the chrome plating after a while to see if it's peeling or burning from the 55w kit?

EDIT: Seems like you guys already discussed this issue, carry on.

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Here are some more pictures

@nate _0022 I used the blazer projectors.









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Cool, so did you take the glass out and replace it lexan or where you able to paint it without removing the glass?
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Yup I replaced the glass. It was cracked anyways.

When i run the lights the lexan is not hot to touch at all. I was very surprised. I sprayed the inside with high temp paint.
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Cool I got some Lexan ready to go and ya the glass on my first fog broke right away. Did you just cut the lexan with a Dremel or score it and break?
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what do mean by break?
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Well this is mostly for strait cuts but you score the line you want to cut several times with a blade then bend the lexan and it will break evenly down the score line
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oh no i had to cut the lexan plastic with the dremel. I am guessing you have a thinner piece, mine was very stiff and would not bend easily. I think it was about the same thickness as the glass.
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looks good! do u have any shots at night of the amount of light it puts out on the street with just the fogs on?
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This looks very nice...I would consider it, but the glare doesn't bother me that much and I turn them off sometimes anyway.
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I will take some pictures tomorrow night.
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Here are the pics per request:

ONLY BLAZER FOGS ON * They look a little bit better than in the picture, it's very hard to capture the actual light*



HEADLIGHTS AND BLAZERS


HEADLIGHTS, BLAZERS AND UPPER FOGS * My Upper fogs are most likely a lot stronger than everyone elses.*

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Sandals I love the fogs. Love how they look but I don't know how I feel about them fitting on the bumper. like they are about to fall off.
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Originally Posted by myron
Sandals I love the fogs. Love how they look but I don't know how I feel about them fitting on the bumper. like they are about to fall off.
It can be touched up and pulled back, after all these weren't made for our cars so install is a bit tough.

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It only looks like that because i took a picture of it at ground level. But at eye level you can not notice it. They are very secure and will not fall out.
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Needs more yellow.
Lots more yellow.
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Personally I don't like the yellow look on my color. Now if i had a NBP or WDP i would definitely get 3000K HIDs
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I think yellows would still flow nicely.
I have yellow projectors [yes, with the yellow lens too] in the upper and lower fogs. =]
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wow looks good! ur upper fogs r amazingly bright too haha
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Originally Posted by AckTL05
If anyone is interested I will be doing this for $280 plus shipping. Will include the fog kit (high quality glass), projectors and them mounted into the fogs and all supplies for install.
Do you also provide HID or is that not part of the deal. If you could please PM (since I can't use that feature at the moment) with the final price and shipped to M1B 1W6. Canada
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those night shots are amazing
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Does anyone know if the IS300 fog projectors will fit in the Ebay Accord fogs?
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Originally Posted by Sandals
I finished my fogs. I just wanted to share a little bit of info on how i did them.

Sandals, your pics made me wonder... were you able to remove the lower fascia grills without dropping the A-Spec lip? When I looked at mine, it seemed like I would have to drop the lip in order to pop those out.
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Originally Posted by stvtec
Sandals, your pics made me wonder... were you able to remove the lower fascia grills without dropping the A-Spec lip? When I looked at mine, it seemed like I would have to drop the lip in order to pop those out.
You need to drop or pull apart the A-spec a little in order to remove those grills.
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^^ exactly, The front lip is so easy to put on and off so its not a big deal.
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Thanks guys. Isn't there double sided tape holding the front lip on? I would think lowering/removing the lip would be a real pain due to the tape... can you clarify? My car has the A-Spec lip kit already installed, so I have no experience with the install process.

I also want to remove the intake silencer which involves removing the front bumper. The lip doesn't have to be removed to take the whole bumper off, does it?
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The lips sides have to be peeled out a little bit to get the bracket out from the wheel well.
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Holy crap, fast response. I found the bumper removal DIY vid from SanDiegoDrive, so you're saying I'll just have to pull back the A-Spec lip in order to access some of the screws in the wheel well? Thanks for the help dude.
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Does anyone has a DIY for this mod? If so please post it up. Thanks.


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