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Old 04-19-2004, 08:34 PM
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about to order car. hows this price sound?

The MSRP breakdown of your vehicle is as follows:

2004 TL/Nav: $35,195.00

Protection Package(wheel locks/cargo tray/mud guards) valued at $299 at no charge

Options(including Parts/installation)- All Season Mats $135/Deck Lid Spoiler $525/Body Side Moulding $290/Under Body Kit $1401

Total MSRP: $37,546.00/ Selling Price Internet Discount $1250.

Your Purchase Price: $36,296.00

Total Drive-Away Investment: $37,744.00
(Includes applicable Taxes, Documentation, and New Vehicle Registration / Titling Fees)
i know the mud guards wont fit with the kit so i should probably ask them to put that value towards one of my other parts.

this is what they quoted me for starters, no haggling yet.

sounds like a decent starter with all those options. also keep in mind that they dont have this car on the lot. they would have to order it for me. so theres no incentive for them to want to get it out by the end of the month.

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[edit] i guess its good that its new. then i can specify plastic protective sheet on the hood (no waxing), no dealer sticker on the rear of the car, and no front lisence plate bracket dealie [/edit]
Old 04-19-2004, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by -=¤willhaven¤=-
i know the mud guards wont fit with the kit so i should probably ask them to put that value towards one of my other parts.

this is what they quoted me for starters, no haggling yet.

sounds like a decent starter with all those options. also keep in mind that they dont have this car on the lot. they would have to order it for me. so theres no incentive for them to want to get it out by the end of the month.

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[edit] i guess its good that its new. then i can specify plastic protective sheet on the hood (no waxing), no dealer sticker on the rear of the car, and no front lisence plate bracket dealie [/edit]
Does Honda offer dealer hold back? If so then they will get to keep the hold back with the car being sold before it hits the lot. This could amount to as much as 3% of invoice. Click around and see if you can find out. Also if there are other dealers in your area you could email or fax them and ask them to beat the quote (since they are ordering it anyway)

If your trading in a car, be careful as you are probably aware they will give you a lower price on the car and decrease your trade.
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I say throw out the MSRPP out the window and work with the invoice price that can be found at the many online car buying sites. Be aware that the invoice prices are not necessarily what the dealers pay for the car but without the inside information, it's a good starting point. I would start to offer $500 less than invoice and reluctantly increase the offer in $100 increments. They may think you're high on crack, but hang in there. A ballpark figure to shoot for would be about $300 to $500 above invoice. Remember again that the invoice is not necessarily the actual price the dealer paid for the car and also various loaded incentives reward the dealer for the number of sales for a given period. Leave your keys on the bargaining desk and whenever they counteroffer with their higher price, start reaching for the keys like you're ready to leave and hold firm or counter again. This may work or not depending on you skills negotiating the deal. I spent over 4 hours at a northern Ca dealership and got the car at $350 over invoice and the closer (finance guy) came up empty when it came time to sell me the special wax, scotchguard nonsense, and the extended warranty. Oh yeah, forget about paying for the wheel locks,trunk tray,door edge guards, mudflap. Those things are freebies. Good luck.
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Here is the Consumer Reports(CR) Price Breakdown for a Navi/TL:

Base Invoice....................... 34,650
Destination Charge............... 545
Base MSRP.......................... 35,195

Base Invoice........................ 31,575
Destination Charge................ 545
Total Dealear Invoice............. 32,120

Total Dealer Invoice.............. 32,120
Dealer Holdback.................... 1,040
CR Wholesale Price................ 31,080

CR Suggest starting at the CR Wholesale Price and working your way up to the figure that you want to pay. CR did not show any incentives or rebates(they may not hace up to date info) Be prepared to play the game and walk out. They will call you. Unless they sell a car, they don't make any money. Also, make sure you have they whole tire vibration issue resolved in your own mind. You can also use that as a pitch against the TL when haggling. Good luck.
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Base MSRP

Originally Posted by micuccio
Here is the Consumer Reports(CR) Price Breakdown for a Navi/TL:

Base Invoice....................... 34,650
Destination Charge............... 545
Base MSRP.......................... 35,195

Base Invoice........................ 31,575
Destination Charge................ 545
Total Dealear Invoice............. 32,120

Total Dealer Invoice.............. 32,120
Dealer Holdback.................... 1,040
CR Wholesale Price................ 31,080

CR Suggest starting at the CR Wholesale Price and working your way up to the figure that you want to pay. CR did not show any incentives or rebates(they may not hace up to date info) Be prepared to play the game and walk out. They will call you. Unless they sell a car, they don't make any money. Also, make sure you have they whole tire vibration issue resolved in your own mind. You can also use that as a pitch against the TL when haggling. Good luck.
I think you meant to say "base MSRP" then "total MSRP"
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I got exactly what you are getting TL/navi/protection kit/under body kit and paid 35,000 before taxes, i think i could have brought them down to 34,800 but couple of hundered bucks for the car i was dying for wasnt worth it so i know you can get the same car for 35,000 and even less now that the supply is catching up to demand. PS. mine is NBP/ebony(i dont think colors make a difference either)
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Originally Posted by dshahs
I got exactly what you are getting TL/navi/protection kit/under body kit and paid 35,000 before taxes, i think i could have brought them down to 34,800 but couple of hundered bucks for the car i was dying for wasnt worth it so i know you can get the same car for 35,000 and even less now that the supply is catching up to demand. PS. mine is NBP/ebony(i dont think colors make a difference either)
did you get the deck lid spoiler as well?
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WILLHAVEN: is that navi or w/out navi?
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Where do you live? This price seems not to get any decent discount...
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he's in fresno.... if thats the price for navi then yup good deal if not then nope...
cuz i got 34,200 with protection package then then the out to door was 38,200, fuckin 4k in applicable Taxes, Documentation, and New Vehicle Registration / Titling Fees
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The largest volume dealer in America is Rick Case. They can ship the car to your house cheaper than most local dealerships can provide. Give this man a call over there I did. Very nice and candid man:

Internet Sales Manager
Dave Kalish
Direct: (954) 377-7616
Fax: (954) 587-6381

Vehicle is insured from the time it's on the flatbed by the driver's insurance... I nearly bought mine from them but when I went back to local dealer with price quote they got too close to bother.... Good luck
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will what state are you in? that tax is only about 3% for the car?
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this is WITH NAV. i am now in North Carolina
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damn ny taxes.
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Originally Posted by SPURS&ANTH.TL
The largest volume dealer in America is Rick Case. They can ship the car to your house cheaper than most local dealerships can provide. Give this man a call over there I did. Very nice and candid man:

Internet Sales Manager
Dave Kalish
Direct: (954) 377-7616
Fax: (954) 587-6381

Vehicle is insured from the time it's on the flatbed by the driver's insurance... I nearly bought mine from them but when I went back to local dealer with price quote they got too close to bother.... Good luck
oh. how much did you pay and with what options?
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That sounds a little steep....I got everything that you got on my car as well except the navi, and I paid 32,946 with all taxes and fees. Not sure if the navi is worth paying an extra $5K for...you can def work that down...
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Originally Posted by -=¤willhaven¤=-
this is WITH NAV. i am now in North Carolina
Where in NC are you looking? I have been to Performance but haven't started dealing yet. The Rick Case option sounds appealing.
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Originally Posted by caball88
damn ny taxes.
damn cali taxes, it was 4k taxes and other dmv fees and shit.
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Where in NC are you looking? I have been to Performance but haven't started dealing yet. The Rick Case option sounds appealing.
this is a quote from performance acura. leith wouldnt give me a quote over the email. they wanted me to call so i obviously started getting numbers from performance first. they also are the only dealer in the area to have the service award.

if i can pit them against each other it would be nice. but from that dealer in FL, they have two anthracite TLs on the lot with nav that are costing them money so they would be more likely to deal. and since its the 20th, they REALLY want to move those cars fast.
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36,800.41 out-the-door shipped to my apartment from FL. anthracite/ebony/NAV. with front, under, rear body kit. deck lid spoiler and side mouldings.

howzitsound?
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Originally Posted by -=¤willhaven¤=-
36,800.41 out-the-door shipped to my apartment from FL. anthracite/ebony/NAV. with front, under, rear body kit. deck lid spoiler and side mouldings.

howzitsound?
Sounds pretty good. Will they register it in NC for you and charge NC taxes? I won't be buying until I close on my house in June, but I may give them a call.
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i will give you the gritty details as soon as i figure it all out. but i just might be swinging a kickass deal through a longdistance friend who used to be an acura salesman for 5 years and still has buddies at his old work.

if i get a nice deal, i will spit the price with the options i got so you can have a benchmark to work with at least.
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thanks
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