First off and foremost, good run. Nice classy dudes, Once we shut it down for good me and the M driver gave each other a thumbs up and a peace sign. Both of us laughed and he went on his way. The maxima driver just drove by and threw up the peace sign.

So coming home from a closing shift from the restaraunt tonight, I was bored and just cruising at 65-70mph in the middle lane. As I'm crawling along, I notice a pair of HID's coming up quick in the fast lane. The road's pretty dead so I figure "Why not", I floored it in D. I caught up to him and ended up getting into the fast lane as well. Well I'm in front and we're just doing 80mph in unison. Suddenly I see him pull out two lanes to the right so I pull out one to the right and we both gun it. Man, I pulled pretty hard till I shifted into 4th gear. . I hit the 3rd to 4th shift perfectly in SS. Came into 4th gear doing right around ~108-109mph and then, awesome, 4th gear lag and the maxima catches up with me easily and stays next to me to around ~130mph. He gets past me when I brake and I slowed back down to around 80mph and shifted into 3rd again and we just kinda went back and forth gassing it. Same result everytime, I'd pull steadily until 4th gear around 109mph. About 1.5miles later, we get an E36 M3 involved. Boy oh boy. I slowed down to 75 in 3rd gear and heard the M3 gas it about a car length behind me so I did the same. The maxima had a bad reaction time and stayed about 3 car lengths behind us. So, we did it 3x over. And each time, the M3 would come up from behind me (right when I'd switch into 4th gear) and just molest me. He'd dip. I didn't know they were that fast. And then we just shut it down, I had about 5 miles left in my tank so I chunked the deuce to both of 'em and exited. I can't wait till I'm modded.

To all those who will say that this was/is irresponsible. I agree, but there's a certain degree of uncertainty and danger with everything in life. But, I'm not making excuses, it was pretty dumb of me. But hey, open highway + 3 cars + straights = ok once in a while. :P lol

 

^you're fine about the end of it, open highway very little cars good=fun times. You did the right thing compared to people doing it in the middle of the day during traffic. Nice runs and yeah the M3 is a rocket, great car but horrible when it comes to reliability my bro has an 04' M3 SOOO many problems. Great runs haha I haven't had a race in my RSX in over a week although I did some spirited driving and put down 110mph.

 

when i had my 6MT i remember running an E36 dude was modded and faster. he would put a car on me in fourth. i gave him a good run tho.

 

so im guessing we could probably stay or even beat a stock e36 M3?

 

Oh yeah dude, I feel you on that one. I'm not into slicing through traffic, too sketchy for my taste. lol. Hmm, your bro has an E46 M3. Aren't E46's the reason why bimmer has got such a bad reliability rep.? But the one I raced was in E36, the gen. before. I always heard that these were ok in terms of reliability. My cousin had a chipped E36 M3 in Estroil Blue, now that was a rocket. A couple of E46's slept on him..haha they got destroyed. Bro, we're young..I went almost 1.5-2months without any action but lately I've been getting lucky, and I'm not even starting it..I just notice the fly-by's and HID's and I know something's up haha.

Damn, yeah the dude would straight dip on me. Like 2-3 car lengths easily once I hit 4th gear. All the way through 3rd he stayed 3/4 - 1 whole car length ahead of me too. And I'm auto, I wish I was 6MT.
On a side note, how's that S2K treating you as a Daily Driver? (assuming that it is your DD).

Hmm, I think a good driver in the TL 6MT could keep up with a stock E36 M3 from a roll, might even be able to take him. I guess it comes down to who's got better reaction time..but I'm no expert. lol. Just throwing my opinion out there.

 

the only time i effed with an m3 i hit a pigeon

 

^^yeah my bad, I get confused by the German model numbers. I just know them by years. Bu yeah the E46 is full of problems and the E36 are reliable I hear that a lot as well. Personally E36 is ugly in my eyes and yeah it's weaker then the 46 so stock for stock vs 6mt TL it should be a good race.

 

Unless the E36 has decent mods we shouldn't have too much of a problem. I ran one at the track and beat him by about 3 cars through the 1/4, maybe 2 I wasn't looking. I trapped 5mph more though, could've just been the driver.

 

i have a coworker who owns an E36 M3 i've asked him to race me but he is afraid, thats just said....he tells me all the time that he doesnt want to be embarrased my me....I'm like c'mon im driving a car heavier and also automatic, but hes not biting....hopefully soon though I can get him to run me

 

You'll beat him without a doubt. Even with bolt ons and a tune it should be close. The one I ran had I/E and it wasn't very close, but who knows. A car is only as fast as the driver.

 

When you say we, are you including us A/T guys? This guy must have been heavily modded then cause he'd take off on me.

With your mods, plus the fact that a stock Type-s dynos 250whp, you will destroy him. lol . Do Eeeeeeeeeeet! and get it on video if possible.

So, you're calling me slow huh. I thought we were tighter than that Sonnick, damn.
lol

 

^lmao thats exactly what I was trying to do and thats when he replied he doesn't feel like getting embarrassed on camera....lol...trust me i tell him everyday whenever he is rdy we can go!!!

 

LOL @ Type-DM. I didn't mean it like that man. I meant in manual cars, the car is only as fast as the driver. Driver makes a bigger difference in a stick than an auto by far.

Plus Boston has the Type S with almost every bolt on, which should be much faster than a basically stock base. No offense it's just faster!

 

Lol, I hope it eventually happens haha.

It's cool broski, I got 'chu. lol

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Boston, have you dyno'd your car with all those mods?

 

A full intake and exhaust and the right tune should give a 96-99 M3 close to 300 crank hp. A 95 M3 intake manifold swap gives 96-99 M3s around 25rwhp, a healthy M3 dynos at around 210rwhp. It aint too hard to get a n/a M3 to run 12s all day, they are pretty light and there is a ton of crap you can swap to lighten it (you might still be able to order aluminum doors and fenders) and lots of cf parts.

There are still a ton of stock or very lightly modded e36s running around the world. Two of my three M3s I got I purchased stock, the other wasnt.

 

^^ no not yet....I haven't found a dyno shop around where im at and don't feel like searching for one, but I'll do it sometime, but I think I will be going to the Track next month April 2nd to be exact...opening night for this year....so hopefully I can see what I'm at least lookin at....plus I will be going with my shitty street tires to keep it real as possible to street daily driving....i'll be happy with mid to low 14's which I think is the avg with my mods and being a shitty 5at(damn wife for wanting to drive the car from time 2 time lol)....but yeah i'll def post times when I do that

 

no doubt E36 M3's with some modding is raping us, the aftermarket parts are endless, unlike our TL's...but with just my mods I'm at 300to the crank if not more...since at stock im 14ponies from 300...but to the wheels is a whole diffirent story with my shitty automatic

 

I think you'll run low 14's/HIGH 13's.

 

^ Try KTR Performance in Ayer, MA

 

you will run lower than mid to low 14's I think. I ran a 14.7 last year with just a CAI in my 03 TL-S AT. That was with 195whp on 19's. Now with my mods im up to 225whp/194wtq, so I should be low 14's if not high 13's. I can beat my friends jetta that ran a 14.2 last year. With a good launch you should be able to hit the 13's.

 

Im suprised you only put down 195WHP with CAI on your TL-S. With my 03 Accord V6 auto I put down 198whp with just CAI.

 

elevation man. he is in toronto

 

the elevation in toronto according to wikipedia is 249ft above sea level. The elevation where I did my dyno in tucson, AZ is 2500ft at speedway and swan rd.

 

i'll def check them out!!

is ur car auto or handshaker......I been doing some research with everyone that has my mods with a 5at have been hitting mid to low 14's...which is why I say it would be those times...maybe if I had some better tires I could hit 14flat but 13s IDK since I've researched 6spd TL-S hittin those times with my mods, but like I said IDK it would be nice but I dont see it happening, who knows maybe I'll surprise myself.....The Butt dyno feels good on the street but hey that's just feeling until I get some real times or dyno numbers lol

 

250-260rwhp is about the limit for a n/a s50/52 without doing any head or bottom end work (the ones that do are dedicated track cars, they make around 300) and will cost you about the same as a basic s/c kit that will give you 300-320rwhp. Turbo kits will cost you an arm and a leg and I'm more than willing to give them up to turbo my euro motor. Its rare to find a force inducted M3 running around.

 

^^ not around here, but yeah in general I know what you mean its pretty rare someone running into a force inducted M car....very expensive car to mod...rich ppl's toy i guess

 

^^same here. dude by me owns a deli called "euro deli" he owns a S/C E36 and a turbo E36 and stock E46. The turbo one is summer ride, S/C one is winter ride. Both look sexy.

 

I lol'd. :P

So, what's the E46 for? lol

anyways, since we're speaking of dynos and such. A stock 5AT TL dynos around 210whp and 195wtq(?). With the following mods how much do whp/wtq will I be putting down.

- Fujita/Aem V2 CAI
- RV6 J-Pipe/ Test Pipe combo
- UR Pulley
- *Pre-Cat Deletes (don't know what my chances are of getting away with these in CA )
- *Bolt-on Cat-back or custom built exhaust with 2.5" piping.

And since I'm already asking questions, what difference does it make if I get a custom built magnaflow exhaust with 2.5" piping vs a bolt-on like the comptech?

 

hope that helps answer ur questions some

 

lol nah Boston, I was asking him why he has the E46 if he has 2 E36's. But thanks for the refresh lol

Really, 230whp/220wtq with all those mods? Whack. then an exhaust is definitely not worth it.

 

^Idk why he has an E46 lol. I guess he just likes it? It has a rare blue color that I've only seen once, it's not the Leguna Seca Blue it's a darker color looks almost purple. It sounds amazing, he says it's stock but I think there is some kind of exhaust work done because it's a lot louder then when my brother had his E46.

 

gotchu lol.....hey those are rough numbers you could be a bit more than those numbers im sure I kinda went low numbers to be a little on the low side but only a dyno will put ur guessing to peace