3G AT vs G35C AT

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May 3, 2006 | 08:10 PM
  #1  
I own a 3G AT with 245 tires Pirellies on stock rims (bigger tires than stock). I have UR pulley and AEM intake in my garage but not installed them yet. Would those two mods be enough to win against G35C AT? or not enough. I know I should just install them tomorrow and give it a run, but I had some bad racing incident last week.. so I don't think I'm gonna street race for a while. Maybe not ever again. lol..

Anyways, any thoughts would be appreciated.

Last time, I raced my friend's G35C AT and lost by 1 1/2 car lengths. 0-100 I think.
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May 3, 2006 | 09:18 PM
  #2  
What year G35?
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May 3, 2006 | 10:56 PM
  #3  
So the real question is :

Would a UR pulley and a AEM CAI be enough to gain 1.5 car legnths from 0 to 100?

Technically 1.5 car legnths is approx 0.2 seconds in the quarter.. (correct me if I'm wrong.. I thought 1 car legnth = 0.1 sec)

I would say yes you should gain 0.2 in the quarter with those mods, however if I was to look at the race without your prior results I would assume he would take you with or without the mods.

Keep us updated..

and what happened last week? I'm curious.. I was the one whoplayed cat and mousewith the cops for five min last week... check the thread about the SUV with guns...
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May 4, 2006 | 12:17 AM
  #4  
Quote: So the real question is :

Would a UR pulley and a AEM CAI be enough to gain 1.5 car legnths from 0 to 100?

Technically 1.5 car legnths is approx 0.2 seconds in the quarter.. (correct me if I'm wrong.. I thought 1 car legnth = 0.1 sec)

I would say yes you should gain 0.2 in the quarter with those mods, however if I was to look at the race without your prior results I would assume he would take you with or without the mods.

Keep us updated..

and what happened last week? I'm curious.. I was the one whoplayed cat and mousewith the cops for five min last week... check the thread about the SUV with guns...

Thanks for your comments. BTW, I saw your thread about the SUV with guns.. lol you are a lucky man. As for my happening with cops last week, go to Car Talk and find the thread named as "Consequences of Street Racing." It's pretty interesting lol
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May 4, 2006 | 05:17 AM
  #5  
This is my experience with 3rd gen AT TL at the track. Bone stock I ran 15.6, 15.7. In 70 degree weather.
AEM intake, UR pulley and comptech catback exhaust I ran 14.30 but in 30degree weather. This year I went back with the addition of procats and only pulled 14.7 and I made 18 more HP, but it was about 50 degrees out with bald tires. After supercharger on in 60 degree weather 13.75. So bone stock 3rd gen 5AT should be beat by G35 auto by 1-2 lengths, G35 has more HP and trq.
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May 4, 2006 | 09:08 AM
  #6  
I would have to say no. Of course this assuming the G35C owner knows how to drive his auto which means he needs to stall up the torque converter a bit and manually shift the 2-3 and 3-4. If he doesn't do this, he'll be significantly slower (mid to low 14s vs upper 14s). My stock G35 sedan auto has gone very consistent 14.3-14.4s@98mph at a track at 1100', however density altitude conditions were such that the air was close to sea level. I recently installed a plenum spacer that adds about 10-12whp through the powerband therefore I think 14.2s wouldn't be out of the question now. I'm not trying to bad-mouth the TL 5AT (even with the mods listed), but I just don't think it has the power consistently overcome a G35 5AT. IMO, the RWD launch, better low end torque, and a fatter powerband give G35 a pretty big advantage from 0-40mph.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most stock and lightly modded 3rd gen TL 5ATs see 14.7-15.2@92-94mph? I know a few have gone quicker, but that's really not the norm. Same goes for a stock or lightly modded G35 5AT. Most will run 14.3-14.6@95-97mph though a few have gone 14.0-14.2@98mph.
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May 4, 2006 | 09:51 AM
  #7  
Quote: I recently installed a plenum spacer that adds about 10-12whp through the powerband therefore I think 14.2s wouldn't be out of the question now.
Sidenote: I am hoping Motordyne develops a plenum spacer for the FFL VQ35s (Maxima, Altima, Murano), with power improvements similar to the FM VQ35s.
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May 4, 2006 | 10:25 AM
  #8  
Quote: I would have to say no. Of course this assuming the G35C owner knows how to drive his auto which means he needs to stall up the torque converter a bit and manually shift the 2-3 and 3-4. If he doesn't do this, he'll be significantly slower (mid to low 14s vs upper 14s). My stock G35 sedan auto has gone very consistent 14.3-14.4s@98mph at a track at 1100', however density altitude conditions were such that the air was close to sea level. I recently installed a plenum spacer that adds about 10-12whp through the powerband therefore I think 14.2s wouldn't be out of the question now. I'm not trying to bad-mouth the TL 5AT (even with the mods listed), but I just don't think it has the power consistently overcome a G35 5AT. IMO, the RWD launch, better low end torque, and a fatter powerband give G35 a pretty big advantage from 0-40mph.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most stock and lightly modded 3rd gen TL 5ATs see 14.7-15.2@92-94mph? I know a few have gone quicker, but that's really not the norm. Same goes for a stock or lightly modded G35 5AT. Most will run 14.3-14.6@95-97mph though a few have gone 14.0-14.2@98mph.
I agree with you. I think with pulley and AEM intake could cut down to perhaps even with the G35c or maybe win by 1/2 a car.


For the thread originator.... It'll be a close race, just becareful of others when you two race again.
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May 4, 2006 | 12:16 PM
  #9  
you think i would be able ot take one with my aem and e-shift cats?
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May 4, 2006 | 12:48 PM
  #10  
Quote: you think i would be able ot take one with my aem and e-shift cats?
only if the G35 is stock

"world's fastest G35 coupe to date"
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...0B4ADE01B0.htm
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May 4, 2006 | 03:29 PM
  #11  
Quote: only if the G35 is stock

"world's fastest G35 coupe to date"
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...0B4ADE01B0.htm
I wonder if that is a single or twin turbo set up? You can hear the BOV. That is one fast 6 cyl.
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May 4, 2006 | 09:27 PM
  #12  
Quote: I wonder if that is a single or twin turbo set up? You can hear the BOV. That is one fast 6 cyl.
Actually that sound you're hearing is slicks on a well prepped track.
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May 4, 2006 | 11:02 PM
  #13  
I raced an 04 G35 Auto Coupe with my stock 04 TL auto, and I was surprised how weak the G35 was off the line. I know he didn't break torque, but I was able to take him by 1 car length to 70 mph. I was honestly expecting to lose. There were a bunch of spectators too that were surprised.
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May 5, 2006 | 12:35 AM
  #14  
Quote: I raced an 04 G35 Auto Coupe with my stock 04 TL auto, and I was surprised how weak the G35 was off the line. I know he didn't break torque, but I was able to take him by 1 car length to 70 mph. I was honestly expecting to lose. There were a bunch of spectators too that were surprised.

Yeah.. I agree.. I thought they were very fast cars.. but I guess automatics aren't that fast. I lost by 1 car length.. so I don't think it's that bad..
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May 5, 2006 | 08:09 PM
  #15  
Quote: I raced an 04 G35 Auto Coupe with my stock 04 TL auto, and I was surprised how weak the G35 was off the line. I know he didn't break torque, but I was able to take him by 1 car length to 70 mph. I was honestly expecting to lose. There were a bunch of spectators too that were surprised.
3,400lbs and RWD will bog the car down pretty bad if you don't load the TC on a G. With hardly torque breaking (1200rpms), my G pulled a doggish 2.35' 60' and bogged pretty hard and ran a high 14.6@97mph. With about a 2400rpm stall the car consistently gets mid to high 2.1 60 foots and 14.3-14.4@97-98mph. It's as quick and fast as my old 94 Z28 automatic was when it was stock
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May 9, 2006 | 11:11 PM
  #16  
depends on the year of the G35 coupe. the 2006 manual has 298 hp and the automatic i believe has 280.

I'd say the G Coupe would win in almost any situation.
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May 9, 2006 | 11:13 PM
  #17  
the VQ has TORQUE. Honda's don't.
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May 10, 2006 | 07:21 AM
  #18  
Quote: the VQ has TORQUE. Honda's don't.
I figured Id chime in on here. I smoked a G35 coup manual last night from a dead stop. Of course I am supercharged but from what I hear the coup is supposed to pull mid to high 13's in the 1/4. You see what I ran last time, I thought it would be close. Dead even for the first 10' till my boost kicked in and I was gone, I pulled over and talked with the kid and he said he never shifted so hard in that car before. He said he took it balls out and he felt better when he found out my car has a blower on it. I have to stop with this red light racing before I get a ticket. It is hard when you have a blacked out TL that sounds nice. Everyone wants to race me, especially at night! Every night that I am out driving around past 10pm I get someone always pulling up next to me revving their engine or itching me on! I have to learn to say no.
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May 10, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Quote: I figured Id chime in on here. I smoked a G35 coup manual last night from a dead stop. Of course I am supercharged but from what I hear the coup is supposed to pull mid to high 13's in the 1/4. You see what I ran last time, I thought it would be close. Dead even for the first 10' till my boost kicked in and I was gone, I pulled over and talked with the kid and he said he never shifted so hard in that car before. He said he took it balls out and he felt better when he found out my car has a blower on it. I have to stop with this red light racing before I get a ticket. It is hard when you have a blacked out TL that sounds nice. Everyone wants to race me, especially at night! Every night that I am out driving around past 10pm I get someone always pulling up next to me revving their engine or itching me on! I have to learn to say no.
Stock 6MT coupes typcially see lower to mid 14s. The quickest stock 6MT G35 has ran a 13.9 and that was a sedan (70lbs lighter). On average, most 6MT G35s see 14.4s@97mph or so. Some break into the lower 14s, but that's a rarity. I think 13.6-13.7s are quite possible with a stock 6MT G35, but it would take slicks to do it.
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May 10, 2006 | 09:11 AM
  #20  
Quote: I figured Id chime in on here. I smoked a G35 coup manual last night from a dead stop. Of course I am supercharged but from what I hear the coup is supposed to pull mid to high 13's in the 1/4. You see what I ran last time, I thought it would be close. Dead even for the first 10' till my boost kicked in and I was gone, I pulled over and talked with the kid and he said he never shifted so hard in that car before. He said he took it balls out and he felt better when he found out my car has a blower on it. I have to stop with this red light racing before I get a ticket. It is hard when you have a blacked out TL that sounds nice. Everyone wants to race me, especially at night! Every night that I am out driving around past 10pm I get someone always pulling up next to me revving their engine or itching me on! I have to learn to say no.
Paul,
You sure it's not the other way around?............. Where everynight you are out driving around past 10pm, you rev on someone when they pulled next to you, itching them on! You need to learn to say

hahahahaha. Of course you would smoke that G35 coupe with that blower. That's why you have a blower
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May 10, 2006 | 10:22 AM
  #21  
Quote: Paul,
You sure it's not the other way around?............. Where everynight you are out driving around past 10pm, you rev on someone when they pulled next to you, itching them on! You need to learn to say

hahahahaha. Of course you would smoke that G35 coupe with that blower. That's why you have a blower
I am guilty of it too, especially right after I got the blower put on. But recently I havent been doing it, and it has been done more to me. Especially down here by the shore where I live. I get a lot of young kids coming from Philly, North Jersey, or NY going to Atlantic City or the shore and they see my car and think it is an easy win. But it turns out not.
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May 21, 2006 | 06:42 PM
  #22  
blower on stock looking TL is a wonderful suprise
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May 21, 2006 | 11:35 PM
  #23  
last night i raced my frens g35 coupe...2005 6 speed and lost by about 1.5 car lengths he had me from the time we took off...i have a 2004 tl AT CAI, tien ss, ronjon wheels 245/40/18 8.5", i also have a system and tools in the trunk and he is dead stock...i did pass him at about 70 but he said he missed 3rd...it seems like a 6 speed tl would be able to take it off the line...we did it for fun on an empty road...i think i want to do a roll at about 40 with him...because my car pulled to the side when i took off and wasn't gettin traction too good...would the results be any different...and i'm suppose to have the eshift headers installed next week and i wanna run him again... hopefully it will be a diff. outcome...if not supercharger might be next....lol
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May 23, 2006 | 03:26 PM
  #24  
I have finally put the AEM CAI and UR Pulley yesterday. Damn. . it sounds great and pulls a little bit harder also. I'm gonna race my friend's G35C AT about a week from now on, so my ECU will get used to the new mods. We'll see what happens.
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May 25, 2006 | 08:00 PM
  #25  
My neighbor just got G35C Auto from Altima 3.5s. going to ask him for a friendly match.
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