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Old 09-18-2011, 10:43 PM
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The 3G TL is NOT a car designed for smokers....

Yeah yeah I know I'm killing myself, and it's a disgusting habit, but damn....you can't even crack the window to smoke in the rain without getting the door trim drenched, and my back seat is covered in ash from ashing out the window....Not to mention there is no lighter or ashtray...WTF....back growing up, my dad's car had 4 lighters AND ashtrays...for every passenger. I know smoking is taboo and anyone who does it needs to be stoned to death, but WTF?

I paid good money for this car, just like everyone else.
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Sorry to hear man.
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Originally Posted by guitarplayer16
Sorry to hear man.
Thanks. Lol I don't lose sleep over it, and I guess it's a good motivator to quit...but still. I know there are others who must feel me here.
Old 09-18-2011, 10:56 PM
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I heard something about Honda and Acura doing it in response to smoking related deaths in Japan. Acura offers a ashtray and lighter as an accessory.
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i think you're TL is telling you to quit smoking..
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:27 PM
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Try e-cigarettes solves half of your problem but I agree with you. Can't crack the windows open in raining climate and ash does build up in the back seat and dash. At least a pack of smokes and lighter fit perfectly in that storage bin in the front door.
Old 09-18-2011, 11:38 PM
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heres some tips

1. if you get window visors you can crack all 4 windows to smoke, or just get some fresh air when its raining outside.
2. ash out your sunroof. open your sunroof all the way and when you need to ash your cigarette just stick your arm out the sunroof. if your going over 20 mph the air will easily ash your cig for you. you can easily ash out the sunroof while also keeping your hand on the steering wheel and eyes on the road, so doing this on the high way is pretty safe compared to trying ash out your window. when you ash out the window you gotta take your eyes off the road and look at the window and that can be dangerous at certain speeds

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Old 09-18-2011, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rhafikjaan
i think you're TL is telling you to quit smoking..
This.

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Thanks. Lol I don't lose sleep over it, and I guess it's a good motivator to quit...but still. I know there are others who must feel me here.
This. Im not innocent either, but im not really a smoker. Your TL probably doesn't like all the ash and smoke. But maybe one day you'll quit. Definitely not gettin on you, man.
Old 09-19-2011, 12:05 AM
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As mentioned above, window visors and cracking the sunroof on tilt would help. Im not sure but isn't there some sort of aftermarket cigarette lighter you could plug into the power outlet? And i've seen ashtrays that slip into the cup holders.
:/ Im not sure if thats helps.

But, since smoking is not the norm anymore, and is mostly frowned upon... automakers generally dont accomodate the needs of a 'minority' and focus on the majority. It sucks, but its not like your being discriminated on.
Old 09-19-2011, 12:08 AM
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I'm a heavy smoker but never in the car, I hate the mess it makes, the potential to burn holes in things and how disgusting it makes the windows. Not to mention that if you smoke regularly in the car then you will more than likely never get rid of the smell. Smoking stinks.

Honestly man, get yourself into the habit of having one before you get in the car then just train yourself to be a non smoker while inside. It's really easy, honestly.

Even if I take long trips I'll just stop somewhere, get out, stretch, smoke, etc.

Yes, very bad habit but I will openly admit that I do not wish to quit ATM.

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Old 09-19-2011, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ajt123
I paid good money for this car, just like everyone else.
Not "stoning" ya or anything but I doubt "easily accessible lighter and ashtray" even made the list of selling points when buying their TLs. If the TL is telling you it's not a smoker-friendly car, then just wait til your next stop.

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Old 09-19-2011, 12:52 AM
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I face the same issue with my car. What I did was just buy an ashtray that fits into the cup holders that get no use anyways, and just tilt the sunroof up so the smoke leaves the car. Works out well for me. Im really contemplating window visors but IDK. I can't say i absolutely adore them.
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brb gona go smoke.
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Visors FTW in the rain.
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My friends and I are very careful when passing it around. We usually have someone in the rear put the ash out the window. Otherwise, the windows stay up!

Wait.. what are we talking about?
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puff puff pass with your punk ass.
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Originally Posted by ajt123
Thanks. Lol I don't lose sleep over it, and I guess it's a good motivator to quit...but still. I know there are others who must feel me here.
all honda's are terrible with this crap. get the oem window visors. i'm saving up for mine!

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My friends and I are very careful when passing it around. We usually have someone in the rear put the ash out the window. Otherwise, the windows stay up!

Wait.. what are we talking about?
dude bad form! always the front window, the backs let all the ash right back in.

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Old 09-19-2011, 09:37 AM
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Hahahahaha - Definitely feel the same way. I have noticed that there is a significant angle to the side windows on the TL. I hate it because it let's a lot of rain in and my wife hates i on trips because it makes it harder to sleep with the sun coming down and in easer. I like the styling on the TL though, so no smoking when it's raining (must have ventilation!) and wifey just has to deal with it on trips.

I have also found that if I leave the drivers side window at least 1/2 way up, most of the ashes go out the window. All the way down with the window and it is a free for all on ashing.
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[QUOTE=vietxquangstah;13242288]
2. ash out your sunroof.


Going to burn your headliner eventually.



Get the visors kid, makes smoking life so much better
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I dont smoke..But most of my friends do.. One of them get rids of the ash through the sunroof ..wait that won't work in the rain right? lol
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When I get a smokers car to detail its a $50 adder if they smoke in the car.
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or you can drill a small hole into your window and stick the cigarette in there..
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Originally Posted by rhafikjaan
or you can drill a small hole into your window and stick the cigarette in there..
+1
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Originally Posted by TheDingo
My friends and I are very careful when passing it around. We usually have someone in the rear put the ash out the window. Otherwise, the windows stay up!

Wait.. what are we talking about?



RAIN = No issue with OEM Visors!
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You smoke in your car .
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^only the high quality stuff.
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AJT, it sounds like you know it's a bad habit-I know smokers have said it's a hard habit to break.

You lose your TL mojo when you smoke in it. The window visors will do you good though.
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Originally Posted by rhafikjaan
I dont smoke..But most of my friends do.. One of them get rids of the ash through the sunroof ..wait that won't work in the rain right? lol
It's funny im in North Carolina where we had tobacco fields right across from my house growing up and I know no one that smokes. It's just gross and unattractive to most here on the beach. To smell an old persons breath of a smoker. That inner breath smell coming off their suety lungs will make someone puke. How people can kiss heavy smokers is beyond me...lol. As for cars... Which cars come with ash trays and lighters now a days anyway? I can only imagine your cars resale value with all the ash that's in the cabin of your car ha ha.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^only the high quality stuff.
lol
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Originally Posted by rhafikjaan
or you can drill a small hole into your window and stick the cigarette in there..
love this idea

i say start quitting before its toooo late.
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Buy a German car next time. They almost all come standard with ashtrays.
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Originally Posted by rhafikjaan
I dont smoke..But most of my friends do.. One of them get rids of the ash through the sunroof ..wait that won't work in the rain right? lol
you let them smoke in your car?!?! I don't let anyone go near my car with a cigarette lol
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use your climate controls and smoke, i do it helps and only open one window because the wind will fck it up
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Sounds like another item to add to the list of annoying features or lack of features for car in another thread.

Since you smokers like to ash out- can I assume you also butt-out too or do you save your butts in some other container and dispose of them properly?
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Originally Posted by Jesstzn
When I get a smokers car to detail its a $50 adder if they smoke in the car.
With all due respect, are you kidding me? Vacuuming up ash and maybe giving the windows double effort is worth $50 to you (to customers?!?)?
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^The smell bothers a lot of people's allergies. Could be why.
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Originally Posted by cjTL
^The smell bothers a lot of people's allergies. Could be why.
ask your parents about carwashes in the 70's. everyone smoked, a lot, in the car, with the windows up. they didn't charge extra. that guy is just a premadonna.
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With all due respect, are you kidding me? Vacuuming up ash and maybe giving the windows double effort is worth $50 to you (to customers?!?)?
he probably does a lot more than that.....
you must have not seen Dale's work.
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no extra effort is needed. all you need is a rag and some 50/50 water/ammonia and the tar fog will come off easier than water marks.
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he's set a premium and people pay.
He does GREAT work.


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