chfields

I went out today and test drove both 06 TL and 06 G35. I was very impressed with the power and handling of the G35(2500 miles on OD), also the interior seems much better than the 05's. Nav doesn't have voice recognition nor can you use it while driving.

I took out the TL(38 miles on OD) and noticed a hesitation upon acceleration from a stop and at low speeds. I also noticed this on the first test drive I took several months ago. This concerns me and would like to know if this is typical of the TL or will it go away as the car "learns" how I drive. I did not have that problem with the G35 or the Honda Ridgeline I test drove. This is very important, because I don't want to spend $35K on a car that is going to hesitate. The salesman told me to try a used TL with several thousand miles on it and see how that feels. I may go back and try that, but I would be interested in some feedback.

Thanks...

RJANACONDA

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i think it will go away as the gets used to your driving patterns there are numerous posts about how differntly a loner car drives or the old "my wife/husband has drove it for x amount of time now the car feels differant"

ussi

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Get a G35!

fast-tl

I'm sure you can tell there's a substantial power difference between the G and the TL. I drove an 06 G35 sedan followed by an 06 TL and I couldn't believe the difference. I thought the TL had plenty of oomph BEFORE I drove the TL. The G put a smile right on my face, which is why I'm waiting for the new one to launch so I can get it or a fire sale on the 06 G35. PLUS (being from DAllas) I get RWD!!

chfields

I definitely noticed the power difference, I punched from a dead stop and it SLAMMED me back in my seat, and the exhaust sound was sweet. I haven't had that feeling since my old Z28 days, but with the extra power, you sacrifice on fuel economy. Salesman also stated that basically AWD is not avail in FL, which is no big deal, as I grew up on RWD. My wife said she thought the G35 had a "cushier" ride than the TL, but she also thinks the TL looks better than the G35 and I have to agree with her on the looks. You definitely get more road feel from the TL,which I like. I used to drive for a living, so I would spend 12 hrs a day/6 days a week in my car. I am very sensitive to what my vehicle is doing, so I feel vibrations, hesitations, and things the average driver misses.
Since I am older now, power is not as important as it was when I was younger. The TL has plenty of power, I like the looks of the TL better than the G and the Nav in the TL is the best. I guess I need to go and drive a used TL with some miles on it and see if the hesitation is there, if it isn't then I have a very tough decision to make.....

pimpin-tl

Well I had two G35 Sedans 04 and a 05 (05 has the newer interior). They are great cars, definitely a lot of power. The G35 has a lot of TQ which is why you feel it. But road-feel the G35 has more of that over the TL. The TL is vague on road-feel compared to it. The TL is also softer on bumps over the G35. Gas mileage was ok in the G35. 20-21 city, 25 highway. I had a 6mt. Overall, I like the smoothness better of the TL and overall looks.

fast-tl

Definintely a tough decision. The good thing is you can't go wrong with either car. I, too, used to drive a Z28 ('97) and it's the principal reason I want to go back to RWD. The TL definitely wins on looks and Navi, though. Tough call....

mio

G35 and SUBARU Legacy , which one is faster?

limited

Did you test drive the G35 with the regular suspension? The sport suspension package offers a firmer ride. I would say the ride in my 06 sport G35 is a little bit more stiffer than the ride in my friends 06 tl. If you going to get the G35 AT you have to get the sport package at $750 MSRP it's a steal for 18" wheels, H&R stiffer springs and shocks (use to be tokico for 05 and lower) and most importantly a VLSD. The 6MT sedan comes standard with the sport package.

jeffie7

The G35's suspension is rougher no doubt but then again it doesnt handle like a boat. (TL)
If you want a softer the suspension the more the car is going to sway/loft. the harder the more you'll feel it but the better it will handle "no brainer"

Owning both a Z and TL I can say that hands down the Z (based on the G platform) handles nothing like the TL. The 2 flaws the TL has is so so handling (boat like) and FWD.

As far as your power issues I've yet to see them. I think the car is very quick for what it is. in fact its not that far behind the Z/G

csmeance

the car hestitates because of the VSA, turn it off and try the drive again. Many of the members that go to the track turn it off for better times.

pimpin-tl

05-06 Sport Suspension is exactly the same. And its not H&R.

Hugh9269

I love the G35!, but I have never seen a review in a major car magazine where it out performs a TL. They are neck and neck 0-60 and the skid pad, braking and lane change the 2005 TL out performs the 2005 G35. The G35 engine sure seems to provide more torque off the line, but the TL sure finds its spot midrange and top end. Niether is a bad choice, extieror looks and interior looks the TL is my choice

Hugh9269

0-60 a Subaru GT ...

RSA_Secure

Most of the TLs in the showroom are on stock suspension. Aspec TL w/ Comptech RSB makes a big difference. I am not saying that it will or will not out handle a G35, but it, without a doubt, is a much nicer ride.

limited

Does you 05 g35 have the sport package? If so can you check the struts and see what color they are? I know that for sure 03-04 sport packages came with red struts that were claimed to be Tokico's. My 06 has black struts with a HR logo on them, I thought there was something weird about that but others with 06 sports have the same thing.

pimpin-tl

LOL, sorry but please show where it out performs the G35? I have yet to see that.

pimpin-tl

The 05-06 have Red struts on sport package models only.

See g35driver.com if you don't believe me.

Picture of my 05 G35 with Sport Package. Part #'s did not change for 05-06.
You did not have the sport package.

F23A4

You must have missed the March 2004 Issue of Car & Driver, where the 04 G35S 6MT competed with the Acura TL 6MT (among some other makes). The numbers were as follows:

Car & Driver March 2004

Acura TL
0-60mph: 5.8 sec
0-100mph: 14.9 sec
0-120mph: 23.1 sec
1/4 mile: 14.5 sec @ 99mph
30-50mph (top gear): 11.4
50-70mph (top gear): 11.1
Top Speed: 152 mph
braking, 70-0 (feet): 160 feet
skidpad: .89g
lane-change,mph: 62.3

Infiniti G35S
0-60mph: 6.3 sec
0-100mph: 14.8 sec
0-120mph: 21.7 sec
1/4 mile: 14.6 sec @ 99mph
30-50mph (top gear): 9.3 sec
50-70mph (top gear): 8.8 sec
Top Speed: 155 mph (governed)
braking, 70-0 (feet): 164 feet
skidpad: .90g
lane-change,mph: 63.8

NOTE: The G35S is this comparo does NOT have the Rev Up version of the VQ35DE (298hp) nor the sport tuned suspension package that is in the current G35S 6MT.

Arguing the performance advantage between both is akin to hair splitting. I will concede that the TL posts some fairly impressive performance numbers for a FWD sports sedan. However, the G does seem to have an edge.

pimpin-tl

That is the slowest time I have seen for the G35. The G35 is clearly faster by .5 of a sec 0-60 and about .4-.6 sec in the 1/4. I owned both and trust me the TL is a dog compared to both my 04 and 05 G35. But the TL is quick enough for what I need.

Year Model Transmission Suspension Tires Test Published By Test/Issue Date Test Titled 0-60mph (sec) 0-100mph (sec) 5-60mph (sec) 1/4 mile time (sec) 1/4 mile trap speed (mph) 60-0mph (feet) 70-0mph (feet) skidpad (300foot diameter)(lateral g's) skidpad (200foot diameter)(lateral g's) 600ft slalom (mph) 700ft slalom (mph) Other Test Results
2003 Sedan 6MT Sport 215/55R17 Goodyear Eagle GS-D (Summer) Motor Trend August-03 First Test: 2003 Infiniti G35 6MT 5.78 14.28 100.30 110.00 0.84 66.00
2003 Sedan 6MT Sport 215/55R17 Goodyear Eagle GS-D (Summer) Automobile October-03 The $30,000 personality test 5.60 14.30 14.30 100.00 151.00 0.91 0-110mph in 18.2 sec, peak braking 1.15g
2003 Sedan 6MT Sport 215/55R17 Goodyear Eagle GS-D (Summer) Car and Driver October-03 Short Take Infiniti G35 6MT 5.90 14.40 6.30 14.20 99.00 153.00 0.87 top speed 146mph (governor limited)
2003 Coupe 6MT Base 225/45/18 Front 245/45/18 Rear Michelin Pilot Sport (Summer) Car and Driver January-03 Infiniti G35 Coupe 6.00 14.60 157.00 0.90
2003 Sedan 5AT Sport 215/55R17 Goodyear Eagle GS-D (Summer) Car and Driver May-02 2003 Infiniti G35 6.20 14.90 162.00 0.84
2003 Coupe 6MT Base 225/45/18 Front 245/45/18 Rear Michelin Pilot Sport (Summer) Car and Driver April-03 Rotary Rivival 5.50 14.20 100.00 164.00 0.86 top speed 155mph (unknown limitation)
2003 Coupe 6MT Base 225/45/18 Front 245/45/18 Rear Michelin Pilot Sport (Summer) Motor Trend January-03 2003 Car of the Year 5.83 15.05 14.23 99.40 112.00 0.87 67.10
2003 Sedan 5AT Sport 215/55R17 Goodyear Eagle GS-D (Summer) Motor Trend January-03 2003 Car of the Year 6.51 16.15 14.68 97.08 114.00 0.84 65.60
2003 Coupe 6MT Base 225/45/18 Front 245/45/18 Rear Michelin Pilot Sport (Summer) Road And Track November-02 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe RoadTest 6.10 14.90 14.60 98.60 117.00 0.92 67.70 top speed 155mph (unknown limitation)
2003 Sedan 5AT Sport 215/55R17 Goodyear Eagle GS-D (Summer) Road And Track July-02 The Best-of-All-Worlds Bunch 6.20 16.50 14.70 95.20 122.00 0.86 65.00
2003 Sedan 5AT Sport 215/55R17 Goodyear Eagle GS-D (Summer) Motor Trend August-02 Destination: Aspiration 6.21 14.61 110.00 65.90
2003 Coupe 6MT Base 225/45/18 Front 245/45/18 Rear Michelin Pilot Sport (Summer) Motor Trend June-03 One Year Test Update: 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe 5.80
2003 Coupe 6MT Base 225/45/18 Front 245/45/18 Rear Michelin Pilot Sport (Summer) Automobile November-02 BMW Beater 6.00 14.60 98.00 114.00 171.00 0.84 65.60 peak acceleration .56g, peak braking 1.06g
2003 Coupe 6MT Base 225/45/18 Front 245/45/18 Rear Michelin Pilot Sport (Summer) AutoWeek July-03 2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe: Win, Place or Show: The sports coupe is on the podium 5.78 14.43 98.10 115.00 0.90 490 foot slalom 46.0mph
2004 Sedan G35X 5AT Base 215/55R17 unknown all season tires Motor Trend February-04 First Test: 2004 Infiniti G35x 6.50 14.83 93.35 118.00 0.84 65.10
2004 Sedan 6MT Sport 215/55R17 Goodyear Eagle GS-D (Summer) Car and Driver March-04 Comparison Test: $35,000 Sport Sedans 6.30 14.80 7.00 14.60 99.00 164.00 0.90 Top Speed 155mph (governor limited)
2004 Coupe 6MT Base 225/45/18 Front 245/45/18 Rear Michelin Pilot Sport (Summer) Road and Track August-04 Infiniti G35 Sport Coupe vs. Mazda RX-8 Performance Plus 5.90 14.20 14.4 100.6 112 0.92 66.7 Top Speed 155mph (governor limited)

A_UFO

You should have zero hesitation especially if the engine is warmed-up on the TL. My 05 AT Navi TL will have a momentary stall feeling when going from a stop when the engine is still warming-up for just a moment. Then it never repeats during the rest of the drive. A coworker said he had the same issue with his Acura CL.

The following thread will provide more detail about what I am experiencing.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124618

My guess is that this new car has not had the proper "learn idle" procedure performed on the car during the TQI. The dealership needs to perform this procedure again before letting customers test drive the car.

F23A4

Oh, no doubt. Even Road & Track posted a 14.4sec ET in the slowest G version: the G35X. And a well driven G35S 6MT should rip the G35X.

With regard to this comparison test, I am sure C/D had a green (i.e.: brand new, not broken in) G35S. If my 02 Maxima and 05 Murano are any indication, the G35S gets plenty fast after break in. Beyond that, C/D NEVER posts good/accurate times for any VQ. (They had the 5.5G Maxima SE 6MT posting a 14.7 sec ET....which is what I posted in my 4AT when it was stock.)

Actuary

I can't read that crap.But right now is not a good time to buy G being last model year.

limited

I didn't want to clutter this post, but it is true that the 06 does have black struts for the sport package. As I stated earlier the 06 does have different componets.

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthre...ighlight=sport

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthre...ighlight=sport

chfields

I kind of had the feeling it was something like that....

While I do know the G has more HP and more torque then the TL, they are very close performance wise, considering G has 20 more HP and 50ft lb on the TL, I find it hard to justify the extra $3000 for the G. Overall, I think the TL is a better value because being older, I'm less moved by performance than I am luxury. I love the look of the TL and I think it implements the technology better than the G. Although, I have seen pics of the new G and the interior is very nice looking, but you still can't use Nav while driving like you can in the TL and the TL is still $3000 cheaper. If they were the same price, it would be an extremely difficult decision, but for me, I can't justify the extra cost for the G. Besides, the new G is just that, new, so we don't know what issues it may have, if any.

rifleman-cl

If you are not in a hurry to buy, why don't you wait for the 2nd Gen G35 to come out. The new design does show some sportiness in it. They improve the interior to be like the TL. It's only a few months away...I'm praying that they improve the fuel economy.

chfields

I have already seen the pics at this site http://www.infinitinews.com/ click on photos and multimedia, then infinity then 2007 G

Looks very good, but it's still $3000 more than TL.

EZZ

Yeah but it'll have about 50hp more than the current TL. Its gonna be crazy quick

chfields

At my age I'm more concerned with luxury than speed, TL is still better than G in luxury dept!! 10 years ago, I would probably have opted for the performance and paid the extra $$ for it, but not now. Besides, I still like the look of the TL over the G.

F23A4

So that is what I have to look forward to in 6 years then. Several years ago I was more into speed than luxury, right now I am looking for both equally in my next car, and it seems like I will be in your shoes when I reach my mid-40s.

MTVtec

The Only Reason Why You're Getting Hesitation Off The Line Is Because The Vsa Is Turned On (STATED PREVIOUSLY), Which When Tire Spin Is Detected Cuts The Gas For Better Traction. Turn The Vsa Off And You'll Get No Hesitation At All...it Makes A Really Big Difference.

gatrhumpy

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I can't read this crap because you capiltalized every word.

johnAboy

as much as i want the TL, this site has made me a bit weary (not only about the rattling, acura service, & other such problems) about getting one.

i've had a g35 before, and i must say their service/dealerships are great! (at least the one's that i've been to)

the 07 G35 is making me rethink my decision

just look at the nav on this thing!

http://www.infiniti.com/allnewG/allNewG.html

trancemission

You guys need to continue this in Car Talk, I would move this and all other G35 threads there if I could but I cant. So feel free to start this over there....