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06cmv6 05-17-2012 01:09 PM

shark my 08 type S is covered

TheChamp531 05-17-2012 01:09 PM

^I bet you Acura forgot they made a Type-S :)

nfnsquared 05-17-2012 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by SharksBreath (Post 13781002)
...luckilly it is a very simple repair and just requires a replacement o-ring.

Negative. It replaces the entire hose and O-ring. And it's not a simple install.


Originally Posted by SharksBreath (Post 13781044)
^yes but the hose starts to leak because of a faulty o-ring...

O-ring is not the major issue, see above.


Originally Posted by TheChamp531 (Post 13781936)
Illegal for them to refuse it on salvage/rebuilt vehicles. :)

Safety Recalls apply for any type of title. Don't let the dealer tell you otherwise.

FYI, the copy of the previous recall can be found here (TSB 08-016). Follow the instructions at the top first:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/3g-tl-technical-service-bulletins-tsbs-3g-garage-j-016-a-613659/

SharksBreath 05-17-2012 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by nfnsquared (Post 13782004)
Negative. It replaces the entire hose and O-ring. And it's not a simple install.



No, see above.



Safety Recalls apply for any type of title. Don't let the dealer tell you otherwise.

FYI, the copy of the previous recall can be found here (TSB 08-016). Follow the instructions at the top first:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659

oh. i guess i was talking about something else. what's the deal with the o-ring?

nfnsquared 05-17-2012 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by SharksBreath (Post 13782016)
oh. i guess i was talking about something else. what's the deal with the o-ring?

Afaik, the faulty O-ring is responsible for air getting into the system, but not leakage of fluid.

The recall includes replacing the O-ring (or at least the previous recall did), but the major issue is that the old hoses are unprotected from heat from the rear bank exhaust and eventually can crack/split and spew fluid onto the rear bank exhaust... FIRE!!!

The new hoses have some kind of metal covering/shield to better protect from the heat.

gdong 05-17-2012 01:21 PM

Just called dealership, they have a recall on my 08 type s

SharksBreath 05-17-2012 01:21 PM

^oh :tomato:

yeah that does ring a bell actually. i'll call after work and see if mine is covered. might have them check out my faulty nav drive while i'm there.

thanks for the clarification :thumbsup:

Cooper19 05-17-2012 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Bearcat94 (Post 13781821)
Bet it's for the Type-S's - which the dumb-asses excluded as a class in the BIG (273,000) recall.

I'll see if I can find the NHTSA docs and/or TSB's.

Thanks for the heads up. :thumbsup:


http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B12-020.pdf

Bearcat94 05-17-2012 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Cooper19 (Post 13782086)

Thank you sir. I'll get it posted on our TSB page. :thumbsup:

Bearcat94 05-17-2012 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by SharksBreath (Post 13781992)
:rofl: this thing is ridiculous.

you got a type-s? what year? 07 and the VIN matches...you're in luck! you are covered!

oh...you have an 08 type-s? sorry...this doesn't apply to you. better luck next time.

:bored:



Depending o the specific vehicle, this might be legit for an '08.

You have to remember that all cars made AFTER the defect is found/suspected probably already incorporate the fix and therefore don't need the recall.

It's the 2007 TL-S's that baffled me. MT's got it; AT's didn't. '07/'08 Base got it. '07/'08 TL-S (AT) did not.

Then Acura giving all kinds of horseshit excuses about different routing, different material, different connections, different vendor, blah, blah, blah, .... .

They couldn't even offer a cohesive logical reason for the exclusion. And now they're back, 4-years later, doing the work anyhow. Jackasses.

:tomato:

paperboy42190 05-17-2012 01:55 PM

i just called. my car is part of the recall and scheduled an appointment. anyone know exactly what this procedure will change?

SharksBreath 05-17-2012 02:01 PM

^what do you mean? they change out the entire hose/o-ring and replace it with one that won't leak and catch your car on fire.

paperboy42190 05-17-2012 02:08 PM

o ok, so just the hose and o-ring? i've alrdy changed the o-ring before but i guess i'll be getting another one lol. my hose probably does need to be changed though, i think it might have a small leak

mau108 05-17-2012 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by gdong (Post 13782059)
Just called dealership, they have a recall on my 08 type s

So this applies to Canada as well ?

VanyDotK 05-17-2012 02:20 PM

Just got back from the dealership guys, it looks like the new hose has a heat shield of some type on it. I'm not sure if they replaced the O-ring or not.

Be advised, if you have an aftermarket J-pipe they may want to charge you half hour labor because the have to remove part of it. I don't know if this was BS or not but I paid it because this dealership has taken care of things in the past they could have easily denied, I won't go into more detail about that.

Bearcat94 05-17-2012 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by mau108 (Post 13782251)
So this applies to Canada as well ?

Canadian recalls work under a different system. Ours are goverened by The National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA).

While the assumption would be this is also a recall in Canada, I don't know how to actaully show that or look it up.

What I'm saying is, you have to find out if this IS a recall in Canada and then what the notification/repair process is for Canadian vehicles.

Bearcat94 05-17-2012 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by VanyDotK (Post 13782294)
Just got back from the dealership guys, it looks like the new hose has a heat shield of some type on it. I'm not sure if they replaced the O-ring or not.

Be advised, if you have an aftermarket J-pipe they may want to charge you half hour labor because the have to remove part of it. I don't know if this was BS or not but I paid it because this dealership has taken care of things in the past they could have easily denied, I won't go into more detail about that.

Supposed to replace the o-ring per the TSB/Recall Repair instructions.



Regards J-Pipe, they have to remove it whether it's stock or not stock. Charging for an after-market seems chickenshit to me.

KJ TL-S 05-17-2012 03:22 PM

Mine didn't show up on myacura.com, but I called and my 07 Type-S 5AT was part of the recall and they said they are replacing the hose. I would imagine they'll replace the O-ring as well, but I'll verify that when I call to make my appt for next week.

Bearcat94 05-17-2012 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by KJ 3G TL (Post 13782457)
.... I would imagine they'll replace the O-ring as well, but I'll verify that when I call to make my appt for next week.

Just read the TSB. :shrug:

It clearly says it is included in the rebuild kit and should be replaced. Simples.

:thumbsup:



TSB Links: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659

Azndjay 05-17-2012 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Bearcat94 (Post 13782464)
Just read the TSB. :shrug:

It clearly says it is included in the rebuild kit and should be replaced. Simples.

:thumbsup:

TSB Links: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659

cant read it i get this msg..

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Please go back or return to the home page.

Bearcat94 05-17-2012 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Bearcat94 (Post 13782464)
Just read the TSB. :shrug:

It clearly says it is included in the rebuild kit and should be replaced. Simples.

:thumbsup:



TSB Links: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659


Originally Posted by Azndjay (Post 13782541)
cant read it i get this msg..

You are not authorized to view the content on this page.

If you believe you have received this message in error, please contact the Support Center.

Please go back or return to the home page.

:ponder:


Did you follow the instuctions in big red letters at the top of post #1?



:tongue:

:wink:

abracing 05-17-2012 04:08 PM

Does it also mean the fluid will be replaced if the hose recall is done?

Bearcat94 05-17-2012 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by abracing (Post 13782603)
Does it also mean the fluid will be replaced if the hose recall is done?


Originally Posted by Bearcat94 (Post 13782464)
Just read the TSB. :shrug:

It clearly says it is included in the rebuild kit and should be replaced. Simples.

:thumbsup:



TSB Links: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613659


:wish:

Cyberdemon 05-17-2012 04:14 PM

Glad I saw this on Autoblog this morning. I just had the PS hose replaced a month ago for $500. Called the dealer today and they refunded everything - pretty happy about it - 90k on my '08 already and I've spent about $150 in actual non-wear maintenance since I bought it new.

nfnsquared 05-17-2012 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by abracing (Post 13782603)
Does it also mean the fluid will be replaced if the hose recall is done?

Please read the TSB. Fluid is included on the parts list.

nfnsquared 05-17-2012 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by KJ 3G TL (Post 13782457)
Mine didn't show up on myacura.com, but I called and my 07 Type-S 5AT was part of the recall and they said they are replacing the hose. I would imagine they'll replace the O-ring as well, but I'll verify that when I call to make my appt for next week.

Yes, as already noted, the O-ring is supposed to be replaced per the TSB, but on the first round of TSB, several dealerships skipped that step... Beware.

Also, one or two guys got charged for PS fluid IIRC...

dstah 05-17-2012 05:35 PM

My appointment is Saturday. Hopefully they don't charge me extra for my aftermarket j pipe. Anyone know if they charge for a loaner car ?

ff4930 05-17-2012 06:25 PM

Just called Acura today and luckily my VIN was not part of the recall.

TSX69 05-17-2012 06:33 PM

Includes Canada
 

Honda Motor Co.'s Acura brand is recalling 56,881 TL sedans from model years 2007 and 2008 in North America to replace a power steering hose that could leak over time and potentially cause a fire.

The recall affects 52,615 TL sedans in the U.S. and another 4,266 in Canada, the Japanese automaker said.


Acura said the hose may deteriorate and leak over time. Leaking fluid could lead to a loss of power steering assistance or could cause smoke and fire, the Japanese automaker said.

Acura said no crashes, injuries or fires have been reported related to the issue.

The company said owners will be notified of the recall by mail, beginning in mid-June. Customers also can see whether their car is affected by the recall at www.recalls.acura.com or www.acura.ca/recalls.

Bearcat94 05-17-2012 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by dstah (Post 13782767)
My appointment is Saturday. Hopefully they don't charge me extra for my aftermarket j pipe. Anyone know if they charge for a loaner car ?

At your age, they may not let you have one. It depends. Some carry insurance that does not allow 'rentals;' to anyone under 25.

If you can get a loaner, it should be no cost. However, if the dealership is busy and has a lot of loaners out, there may not be one available when your arrive. Best to make an appt and request a loaner.

VanyDotK 05-17-2012 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Bearcat94 (Post 13782443)
Regards J-Pipe, they have to remove it whether it's stock or not stock. Charging for an after-market seems chickenshit to me.

You're right, I looked at the service bulletin and aftermarket J-pipe or not, it would have to come off regardless. I called the service manager he said he'll look at the service bulletin in the morning and get back to me, he seemed very accommodating. I'll let everybody know how it goes when he gets back to me tomorrow.

VanyDotK 05-17-2012 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by dstah (Post 13782767)
My appointment is Saturday. Hopefully they don't charge me extra for my aftermarket j pipe. Anyone know if they charge for a loaner car ?

Print out the service bulletin and take it with you just in case they try to tell you they have to charge extra, hopefully you won't need to pull it out.

mau108 05-17-2012 07:37 PM

Confirmed Canada as well

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/...chResult&pg=-1

DaeHanMeenGuk 05-17-2012 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by dstah (Post 13782767)
My appointment is Saturday. Hopefully they don't charge me extra for my aftermarket j pipe. Anyone know if they charge for a loaner car ?

Which dealership are you going to? I called Acura of Glendale and they said that the parts for the recall don't come in til the following week. I made my appointment for the 25th. I asked how long it takes and the guy on the phone said that it should take about 3 hours.

So I'm going to assume that they won't give me a loaner for three hours. :(

KJ TL-S 05-17-2012 08:27 PM

They told me 1.5 to 2 hours, and I told them I would need a loaner. I don't think time really matters unless it's just an oil change or something.

dstah 05-17-2012 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Bearcat94 (Post 13782129)
Depending o the specific vehicle, this might be legit for an '08.

You have to remember that all cars made AFTER the defect is found/suspected probably already incorporate the fix and therefore don't need the recall.

It's the 2007 TL-S's that baffled me. MT's got it; AT's didn't. '07/'08 Base got it. '07/'08 TL-S (AT) did not.

Then Acura giving all kinds of horseshit excuses about different routing, different material, different connections, different vendor, blah, blah, blah, .... .

They couldn't even offer a cohesive logical reason for the exclusion. And now they're back, 4-years later, doing the work anyhow. Jackasses.

:tomato:


Originally Posted by DaeHanMeenGuk (Post 13783020)
Which dealership are you going to? I called Acura of Glendale and they said that the parts for the recall don't come in til the following week. I made my appointment for the 25th. I asked how long it takes and the guy on the phone said that it should take about 3 hours.

So I'm going to assume that they won't give me a loaner for three hours. :(

What the hell ? Are you sure ? I have an appointment on Saturday at Acura of Glendale . I already have an appointment / loaner car ready for me on sat. Who did you speak to? I spoke to brad. He got my insurance info and everything

dstah 05-17-2012 09:45 PM

I told him about the aftermarket parks I have ( j pipe ) and he said that isn't a problem

DaeHanMeenGuk 05-17-2012 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by dstah (Post 13783186)
What the hell ? Are you sure ? I have an appointment on Saturday at Acura of Glendale . I already have an appointment / loaner car ready for me on sat. Who did you speak to? I spoke to brad. He got my insurance info and everything


I talked with a guy named Tony. I just gave him my name, cell #, and VIN. Knowing this makes me sort of sad. :( Did you purchase your car from Glendale? Because I picked mine up from Acura of the Desert in Palm Springs.

paperboy42190 05-17-2012 11:05 PM

wait, I cant get a loaner if im under 25? what am i gonna drive then?!

Healingduck 05-17-2012 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by paperboy42190 (Post 13783370)
wait, I cant get a loaner if im under 25? what am i gonna drive then?!

Chances are they just expect you to wait there if you have to. Sucks, but I wouldn't expect them to loan a car out to someone under 25.(age to rent a car here)


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