A-122: DIY - 105k Service: Timing Belt, Water Pump, Spark Plugs, Thermostat *PICS*
#481
Race Director
The water pump isn't. At least it has no markings. I wouldn't let that stop you. I have 25K miles on the kit so far with no issues. And no, I'm pretty sure this is not the same kit the dealers are selling.
#483
So im getting different parts number from different acura dealers.?????
Timing Belt 14400-P8A-A02
Timing Belt Tensioner Pulley 14510-PGE-A01
Timing Belt Idler Pulley 14550-P8A-A01
Water Pump & Gasket 19200-P8A-A02
Power Steering Belt 56992-P8A-A01
A/C / Alternator Belt 38920-P8C-A02
Auto Tensioner 14520-P8E-A01
Thermostat 19301-P8E-A10
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT-
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 - SERPBELT
Timing Belt 14400-P8A-A02
Timing Belt Tensioner Pulley 14510-PGE-A01
Timing Belt Idler Pulley 14550-P8A-A01
Water Pump & Gasket 19200-P8A-A02
Power Steering Belt 56992-P8A-A01
A/C / Alternator Belt 38920-P8C-A02
Auto Tensioner 14520-P8E-A01
Thermostat 19301-P8E-A10
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT-
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 - SERPBELT
#485
So im getting different parts number from different acura dealers.?????
Timing Belt 14400-P8A-A02
Timing Belt Tensioner Pulley 14510-PGE-A01
Timing Belt Idler Pulley 14550-P8A-A01
Water Pump & Gasket 19200-P8A-A02
Power Steering Belt 56992-P8A-A01
A/C / Alternator Belt 38920-P8C-A02
Auto Tensioner 14520-P8E-A01
Thermostat 19301-P8E-A10
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT-
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 - SERPBELT
Timing Belt 14400-P8A-A02
Timing Belt Tensioner Pulley 14510-PGE-A01
Timing Belt Idler Pulley 14550-P8A-A01
Water Pump & Gasket 19200-P8A-A02
Power Steering Belt 56992-P8A-A01
A/C / Alternator Belt 38920-P8C-A02
Auto Tensioner 14520-P8E-A01
Thermostat 19301-P8E-A10
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT-
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 - SERPBELT
Best bet is to search via your specific vin number.
Oh and yes.....IF Honda uses the exact same part as Acura, it will have the exact same part number. It's also typically cheaper at Honda (though not always). Keep in mind some Acura parts are not used on a Honda, so you won't always be able to find everything from them.
#487
the overexplainer
There is debate on whether it's healthy to a motor to get rid of the OEM pulley,
but yes, that's a good time as any since you have the pulley removed anyway for the TB job.
but yes, that's a good time as any since you have the pulley removed anyway for the TB job.
#488
It seem to me acura might have their own part number after speaking with parts department from Acura dealer. I know Honda parts are cheap sometimes so can someone list all Honda part # for recommended and optional parts to replace with timing belt job.
Thanks
Thanks
#490
If Honda doesn't carry the exact same part number, then there is NO substitute. Buy Acura. Besides, Acura parts are cheaper than Honda parts of the same number at OEMAcuraParts.com.
#491
Im having my honda tech guy do this for me and he saying I dont need to change the tensioner and idler pulley to save some money.
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 SERPBELT
14550-RCA-A01 Idler Pulley
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 SERPBELT
14550-RCA-A01 Idler Pulley
#492
Race Director
And the idler pulley is even cheaper. For 105K miles and 7-10 years, it's very cheap insurance to replace both.
The Gates kit has all of it for under $170 shipped (Rockauto.com). It's a no-brainer to me.
Or you can go with the Aisin kit for $210 shipped.
Serpentine belt is extra...
http://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/x,carc...onent_Kit.html
Last edited by nfnsquared; 12-13-2012 at 01:08 PM.
#493
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Thread Starter
Your choice.. I wouldn't play Russian Roulette.. small price to pay in my book.
#494
the overexplainer
yep, same here my tensioner was kaput when I did mine before even 100k miles.
the question is WHY NOT? it's RIGHT THERE with the belt. If you're doing the water pump already. I wouldnt trust any of the pulleys with 200k miles and a almost 2 decades worth of time.
the question is WHY NOT? it's RIGHT THERE with the belt. If you're doing the water pump already. I wouldnt trust any of the pulleys with 200k miles and a almost 2 decades worth of time.
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Im having my honda tech guy do this for me and he saying I dont need to change the tensioner and idler pulley to save some money.
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 SERPBELT
14550-RCA-A01 Idler Pulley
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 SERPBELT
14550-RCA-A01 Idler Pulley
The idler pulley and the tensioner bearing usually aren't really necessary until the 2nd timing belt job after 200K.
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#497
Thanks for all the info. I guess ill replace everything on this parts list.
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 SERPBELT
14550-RCA-A01 Idler Pulley
Is there any other parts you guys can recommend changing out as well? Im going with all acura parts so parts number will help.
Thanks
14400-RCA-A01 TIMINGBELT
14520-RCA-A01 AUTOADJUSTER
14510-RCA-A01 TENSIONER
19200-RDV-J01 WATERPUMP
38920-RCA-A03 SERPBELT
14550-RCA-A01 Idler Pulley
Is there any other parts you guys can recommend changing out as well? Im going with all acura parts so parts number will help.
Thanks
#500
Ordered my parts from Rock Auto today, came out to $313 shipped for everything. I went with the basic Gates kit and the Bosch pump since it came out cheaper. Thank you to the OP for the hard work in creating the walk through. No way I could justify the $1,300+ all the service centers around here were quoting.
#502
Needs a 930
Just printed this out. Thank maj. Anything else that needs to be purchased off of your parts list? I found everything for right at 350 and want to make sure I have everything ill need. I just went off of your "parts" list. I'm sure you didn't leave anything out but thought I would ask to clear my brain.
#503
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I think Rock Auto and some part suppliers / vendors even eBay have the bulk of this parts kit for ~$150.
Search Goog: Gates TCKWP329 - click shopping tab
Search Goog: Gates TCKWP329 - click shopping tab
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I think 8.75 is just finger tight and 19 is nice and snug with a 1/4" ratchet....
just remember not to over tighten anything...
just remember not to over tighten anything...
#507
finger-tight is "Zero" lb-ft of torque. If you think about it, your fingers alone could not possibly generate the torque produced by pulling on a 1 foot bar with almost 9 pounds. To do a minimal torque setting like 8.75, I would just use a small 1/4" ratchet, and snug it a little past finger tight.
Last edited by 94eg!; 03-01-2013 at 11:10 PM.
#508
the overexplainer
I found it near impossible to fit a torque wrench down there anyway. 8.7 lb/ft is like wrist tight on a 1/4 drive ratchet or box wrench.
What you need for this job is a set of ratcheting box wrenches. Those valve cover bolts are a pain to put on and remove.
What you need for this job is a set of ratcheting box wrenches. Those valve cover bolts are a pain to put on and remove.
Last edited by ez12a; 03-02-2013 at 09:10 AM.
#512
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Thread Starter
auto tensioner and idle pulley are for timing belt.. different from drivebelt tensioner.
#513
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I looked at the picture! Ain't nobody got time for lazy!
It looked a lot like the pulleys mounted to the external tensioner assembly. Guess not. For $150, that's a killer deal.
Thanks again for putting this all together, I might try and tackle myself at some point.
It looked a lot like the pulleys mounted to the external tensioner assembly. Guess not. For $150, that's a killer deal.
Thanks again for putting this all together, I might try and tackle myself at some point.
#514
I used this tutorial about three years ago on my 2004 TL and it saved me a lot of guessing. Ended up selling it soon after and now I have an '08 I'll be using this tutorial on probably in a few years.
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
#515
Just FYI for people looking for OEM parts. noob people like me who didnt know hydraulic tensioner is the same as auto adjuster tension. lol
price from oemacuraparts.com
BELT, TIMING (197YU20 VE-501) (UNITTA) 14400-RCA-A01 $46.66
Auto adjuster TENSIONER, TIMING BELT AUTO - Hydraulic Tensioner 14520-RCA-A01 $95.81
TENSIONER ADJUSTER, TIMING BELT - Tensioner Roller / Pulley 14510-RCA-A01 $85.14
WATER PUMP (YAMADA) 19200-RDV-J01 $111.76
SERPBELT - BELT, COMPRESSOR (MITSUBOSHI) 38920-RCA-A03 $29.01
IDLER, TIMING BELT (KOYO SEIKO) - Idler Roller / Pulley 14550-RCA-A01 $37.64
Drive Belt Idler Pulley 31190-RCA-A02 $14.75
THERMOSTAT ASSY. (NIPPON THERMOSTAT) 19301-P8E-A10 $27.71
OIL SEAL (41X56X7) (NOK) - Front Crankshaft Seal 91212-R70-A02
$5.57
OIL SEAL (39X53X8) (NOK) - Cam Seals (2) Honda -Front Crankshaft Seal 91213-R70-A02 $4.95
GASKET, HEAD COVER 12341-RCA-A01 $6.08
price from oemacuraparts.com
BELT, TIMING (197YU20 VE-501) (UNITTA) 14400-RCA-A01 $46.66
Auto adjuster TENSIONER, TIMING BELT AUTO - Hydraulic Tensioner 14520-RCA-A01 $95.81
TENSIONER ADJUSTER, TIMING BELT - Tensioner Roller / Pulley 14510-RCA-A01 $85.14
WATER PUMP (YAMADA) 19200-RDV-J01 $111.76
SERPBELT - BELT, COMPRESSOR (MITSUBOSHI) 38920-RCA-A03 $29.01
IDLER, TIMING BELT (KOYO SEIKO) - Idler Roller / Pulley 14550-RCA-A01 $37.64
Drive Belt Idler Pulley 31190-RCA-A02 $14.75
THERMOSTAT ASSY. (NIPPON THERMOSTAT) 19301-P8E-A10 $27.71
OIL SEAL (41X56X7) (NOK) - Front Crankshaft Seal 91212-R70-A02
$5.57
OIL SEAL (39X53X8) (NOK) - Cam Seals (2) Honda -Front Crankshaft Seal 91213-R70-A02 $4.95
GASKET, HEAD COVER 12341-RCA-A01 $6.08
#516
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Did mine recently
pics and vids
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595199844
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595350055
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595478366
didn't start it right away, clicked it a few times first as you can see. you can hear some wierd sounds just after it started, that is the p.s. pump because i had disconnected it so there was some epmty air space in there that needed fluid
the belt was really loose when i took the cam pulley covers off.....
pics and vids
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595199844
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595350055
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595478366
didn't start it right away, clicked it a few times first as you can see. you can hear some wierd sounds just after it started, that is the p.s. pump because i had disconnected it so there was some epmty air space in there that needed fluid
the belt was really loose when i took the cam pulley covers off.....
Last edited by ekxtreem; 04-24-2013 at 10:22 PM.
#517
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Did mine recently
pics and vids
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595199844
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595350055
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595478366
didn't start it right away, clicked it a few times first as you can see. you can hear some wierd sounds just after it started, that is the p.s. pump because i had disconnected it so there was some epmty air space in there that needed fluid
the belt was really loose when i took the cam pulley covers off.....
pics and vids
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595199844
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595350055
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13668595478366
didn't start it right away, clicked it a few times first as you can see. you can hear some wierd sounds just after it started, that is the p.s. pump because i had disconnected it so there was some epmty air space in there that needed fluid
the belt was really loose when i took the cam pulley covers off.....
I would have freaked out if the engine didn't start after that job. Is that normal??
I'm glad everything worked out. I'll be tackling this job in the next few weeks.
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#518
Instructor
Make sure you have all the right tools, I have pics of the serpentine belt removal too but I am unable to upload them on flickr right now, my limit is reached for the month, but I will eventually add them with the rest as well as pics of the tools..
As long as the job is done right it will start, if your marks are not lining up start the job over, if you try to start the car with the marks not lining up you may end up needing a new engine so tripple and quadruple check....
Last edited by ekxtreem; 04-25-2013 at 10:39 AM.
#519
the overexplainer
the first time I start mine to bleed air from the cooling system:
#520
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
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... on that note, this is an opportune time to repeat the original post:
..Most importantly, I take no responsibility if you attempt this DIY and fuck something up.