10 cars most likely to go 200,000 miles
03-03-2014, 08:41 PM
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10 cars most likely to go 200,000 miles
TL made the list 
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/10-cars-...213000133.html
ConsumerReports:
For many shoppers, choosing a car that can go the distance is an important way to save money. A new study approaches the concept of longevity from an interesting angle, focusing on models that have achieved 200,000 miles.
Put together by the data aggregator iSeeCars.com, the study was based on listings for 30 million vehicles advertised for sale during the last year. Looking at the model years 1981 to 2010, the company ranked those vehicles based on the percentage that achieved the impressive 200,000-mile mark. Not surprising, most were vehicles that also have had good reliability rankings in our annual owner surveys.
We want to be clear that iSeeCars makes no claims about the cars' current condition or about the reliability of these vehicles over time, simply that they’re still on the road.
Here’s the iSeeCars list, in order of most to least ads featuring cars with more than 200,000 miles.
Honda Accord
Subaru Legacy
Toyota Avalon
Honda Odyssey
Nissan Maxima
Toyota Camry
Ford Taurus
Honda Civic
Acura TL
Subaru Outback
Interestingly, the iSeeCars list is made up almost entirely of mainstream sedans, with the only exceptions being the Honda Odyssey minivan and Subaru Outback wagon—although Subaru has offered a low-selling Outback sedan in the past.
These are all vehicles purchased for everyday use and family duty, and not sophisticated luxury models laden with electronic features or vehicles designed for extreme performance or heavy towing. Notably, all but the Taurus are Japanese models. And no European brands made the list.
Our own annual autos reliability survey of more than a million vehicles routinely finds that some of these vehicles, including the TL, Avalon, Camry, and Civic, are reliability all-stars, with many years of very good or better scores. It is worth noting that while the Civic has a long track record of reliability, for certain years, the Civic Hybrid has developed significant battery pack failure rates.
The list doesn’t include some cars, such as the Toyota Prius, that have excellent reliability. It could be that the Prius hasn’t reached that mileage in great volumes, and it could also mean that owners aren’t ready to sell yet. (Read: “Hybrids Hang Tough as the Miles Rack Up.”)
In its recently published study of all vehicles, iSeeCars found that the models most likely to be advertised with more than 200,000 miles overall were overwhelmingly work trucks and large SUVs, with the Ford F-250 leading the pack.
But most large SUVs have not performed as well in our reliability surveys as pickups. The Chevrolet Suburban and GMC Yukon, Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and Lincoln Navigator cited in the study have all had sub-par reliability most years in our surveys. The Toyota Sequoia is an exception, landing in second place in the iSeeCars study and with a solid reliability record in our surveys.
The prevalence of trucks may be due to several factors, including: commercial users are diligent about maintenance and willing to make major repairs, and acceptance of a truck in rough condition that would have seen a regular car retired. For these reasons, we requested this special view of passenger cars from iSeeCars to inform consumers.
In the end, its data largely aligns with our own findings. Whether you’re looking for a car, truck, or SUV that’s good for the long haul, the best bet is to choose a model with a solid reliability record and keep up with regular maintenance.
Learn how to go the distance yourself, with our special feature on how to make your car last 200,00 miles.
—Jim Travers
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/10-cars-...213000133.html
ConsumerReports:
For many shoppers, choosing a car that can go the distance is an important way to save money. A new study approaches the concept of longevity from an interesting angle, focusing on models that have achieved 200,000 miles.
Put together by the data aggregator iSeeCars.com, the study was based on listings for 30 million vehicles advertised for sale during the last year. Looking at the model years 1981 to 2010, the company ranked those vehicles based on the percentage that achieved the impressive 200,000-mile mark. Not surprising, most were vehicles that also have had good reliability rankings in our annual owner surveys.
We want to be clear that iSeeCars makes no claims about the cars' current condition or about the reliability of these vehicles over time, simply that they’re still on the road.
Here’s the iSeeCars list, in order of most to least ads featuring cars with more than 200,000 miles.
Honda Accord
Subaru Legacy
Toyota Avalon
Honda Odyssey
Nissan Maxima
Toyota Camry
Ford Taurus
Honda Civic
Acura TL
Subaru Outback
Interestingly, the iSeeCars list is made up almost entirely of mainstream sedans, with the only exceptions being the Honda Odyssey minivan and Subaru Outback wagon—although Subaru has offered a low-selling Outback sedan in the past.
These are all vehicles purchased for everyday use and family duty, and not sophisticated luxury models laden with electronic features or vehicles designed for extreme performance or heavy towing. Notably, all but the Taurus are Japanese models. And no European brands made the list.
Our own annual autos reliability survey of more than a million vehicles routinely finds that some of these vehicles, including the TL, Avalon, Camry, and Civic, are reliability all-stars, with many years of very good or better scores. It is worth noting that while the Civic has a long track record of reliability, for certain years, the Civic Hybrid has developed significant battery pack failure rates.
The list doesn’t include some cars, such as the Toyota Prius, that have excellent reliability. It could be that the Prius hasn’t reached that mileage in great volumes, and it could also mean that owners aren’t ready to sell yet. (Read: “Hybrids Hang Tough as the Miles Rack Up.”)
In its recently published study of all vehicles, iSeeCars found that the models most likely to be advertised with more than 200,000 miles overall were overwhelmingly work trucks and large SUVs, with the Ford F-250 leading the pack.
But most large SUVs have not performed as well in our reliability surveys as pickups. The Chevrolet Suburban and GMC Yukon, Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and Lincoln Navigator cited in the study have all had sub-par reliability most years in our surveys. The Toyota Sequoia is an exception, landing in second place in the iSeeCars study and with a solid reliability record in our surveys.
The prevalence of trucks may be due to several factors, including: commercial users are diligent about maintenance and willing to make major repairs, and acceptance of a truck in rough condition that would have seen a regular car retired. For these reasons, we requested this special view of passenger cars from iSeeCars to inform consumers.
In the end, its data largely aligns with our own findings. Whether you’re looking for a car, truck, or SUV that’s good for the long haul, the best bet is to choose a model with a solid reliability record and keep up with regular maintenance.
Learn how to go the distance yourself, with our special feature on how to make your car last 200,00 miles.
—Jim Travers
03-03-2014, 09:36 PM
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I have a 1993 Ford Crown Victoria that has over 350,000 miles on it. If I didn't have my Acura, I would still be daily driving it, because it works almost perfectly.
I firmly believe that this current crop of average sedans won't make it past 10 years, with all the technology that goes into them.
Furthermore, imagine restoring one of these cars 50 years from now.. The computers and wiring will be a nightmare.
I firmly believe that this current crop of average sedans won't make it past 10 years, with all the technology that goes into them.
Furthermore, imagine restoring one of these cars 50 years from now.. The computers and wiring will be a nightmare.
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03-04-2014, 07:18 AM
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I've got a 02 Hyundai Elantra that has about 205K on it. I did routine maintenance as well as change a head gasket (pretty easy on a 4 cyl). Just replaced the radiator and some hoses. Its ugly but I use it as my commuter to keep miles off the TL. I am hoping to get at least 250K out of it. I was so impressed we got a 2014 Elantra for the girlfriend. You can most likely get 200+ out of any car with routine PREVENTATIVE maintenance. You cant call a car unreliable if you are one of those people who don't do anything except change oil until something breaks. The key is being proactive.
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03-04-2014, 10:48 AM
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Anyone else notice that the list is dominated by Japanese vehicles? It doesn't surprise me at all, but I still hear people argue that American is more reliable and cheaper to maintain, or that German cars are engineered to last and are indestructible.
Being proactive in your maintenance doesn't always keep the car running. My mom had a 98 cutlass and she had all of the maintenance done on time. I made sure of it. Over the span of say 5 years and approximately 100k, two engines failed (no oil pressure resulting in all cylinders misfiring). I can understand if one of the failures was a fluke, but if two failed with proper preventative maintenance, that is strong evidence of a design flaw.
Being proactive in your maintenance doesn't always keep the car running. My mom had a 98 cutlass and she had all of the maintenance done on time. I made sure of it. Over the span of say 5 years and approximately 100k, two engines failed (no oil pressure resulting in all cylinders misfiring). I can understand if one of the failures was a fluke, but if two failed with proper preventative maintenance, that is strong evidence of a design flaw.
03-04-2014, 11:50 AM
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The odyssey...haha yeah it's good they note that it doesnt really indicate reliability, only that it just indicates the used market is full of 200k mile odysseys.
My parents' 01 odyssey has had 2 transmission jobs, seemingly every 60k miles. First one was a brand new replacement under warranty, 2nd job at approx 120k miles was a rebuild after i fried it going up the 5 past Six Flags.
My parents' 01 odyssey has had 2 transmission jobs, seemingly every 60k miles. First one was a brand new replacement under warranty, 2nd job at approx 120k miles was a rebuild after i fried it going up the 5 past Six Flags.
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03-04-2014, 06:24 PM
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I would have to say the maxima comes pretty close to the TL in terms of "premium" features. Maximas are pretty nice cars inside and out, and IMO a closer competitor to the TL than the TL is to the infiniti G, based on the fact that maxima is also FWD and a closer power level.
03-04-2014, 09:41 PM
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Yea, now let's see the 300,000 mile list.
03-04-2014, 10:25 PM
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They definitely not talking about the 2G TL right?
03-05-2014, 01:49 AM
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It MAY be cheaper to maintain an American vehicle, but the key is that most people DONT maintain their vehicles properly. It's a testament to Honda that their vehicles are still running without issue with over 200K miles. I swear you can never change the oil in a Honda and still get 100K minimum out of them.
I had a CRX that used to burn oil. Never changed it, just added some whenever the light would come on. It also had a leaky radiator. I would drive it and when it would overheat it would get to the point where it would finally cut off and not crank back up. Give it 20 min or so to cool down, add some water, back in business.
You can abuse Hondas and they will still last. That's the key.
I had a CRX that used to burn oil. Never changed it, just added some whenever the light would come on. It also had a leaky radiator. I would drive it and when it would overheat it would get to the point where it would finally cut off and not crank back up. Give it 20 min or so to cool down, add some water, back in business.
You can abuse Hondas and they will still last. That's the key.
03-05-2014, 03:22 AM
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That being said, I would still be a little wary of the 04-06 automatics
03-05-2014, 01:37 PM
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I would have to say the maxima comes pretty close to the TL in terms of "premium" features. Maximas are pretty nice cars inside and out, and IMO a closer competitor to the TL than the TL is to the infiniti G, based on the fact that maxima is also FWD and a closer power level.
The Max is still a Nissan over Infinity
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03-05-2014, 02:58 PM
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Glad to see Honda products mentioned. paperboy: I am just shy of 154k miles on my 05 TL. Not one hint of tranny slippage. I can understand anyone considering an early 3G TL model when stories of tranny failures appear. It seems a growing number of 06 TLs are becoming victims to tranny failures when you check the last few pages of the Problem & Fixes section.
I am just hoping mine will last me to about 200k but may consider selling soon to upgrade to a newer 3G TL or new Honda Accord. But I really want a TLX.
I just need to replace the accessory belt tensioner as the whole assembly is making a grinding sound. $180 for that but other than that no strange sounds coming from the engine bay. Well shocks may need replacing too.
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03-05-2014, 03:48 PM
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TL made the list
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/10-cars-...213000133.html
ConsumerReports:
For many shoppers, choosing a car that can go the distance is an important way to save money. A new study approaches the concept of longevity from an interesting angle, focusing on models that have achieved 200,000 miles.
Put together by the data aggregator iSeeCars.com, the study was based on listings for 30 million vehicles advertised for sale during the last year. Looking at the model years 1981 to 2010, the company ranked those vehicles based on the percentage that achieved the impressive 200,000-mile mark. Not surprising, most were vehicles that also have had good reliability rankings in our annual owner surveys.
We want to be clear that iSeeCars makes no claims about the cars' current condition or about the reliability of these vehicles over time, simply that they’re still on the road.
Here’s the iSeeCars list, in order of most to least ads featuring cars with more than 200,000 miles.
Honda Accord
Subaru Legacy
Toyota Avalon
Honda Odyssey
Nissan Maxima
Toyota Camry
Ford Taurus
Honda Civic
Acura TL
Subaru Outback
Interestingly, the iSeeCars list is made up almost entirely of mainstream sedans, with the only exceptions being the Honda Odyssey minivan and Subaru Outback wagon—although Subaru has offered a low-selling Outback sedan in the past.
These are all vehicles purchased for everyday use and family duty, and not sophisticated luxury models laden with electronic features or vehicles designed for extreme performance or heavy towing. Notably, all but the Taurus are Japanese models. And no European brands made the list.
Our own annual autos reliability survey of more than a million vehicles routinely finds that some of these vehicles, including the TL, Avalon, Camry, and Civic, are reliability all-stars, with many years of very good or better scores. It is worth noting that while the Civic has a long track record of reliability, for certain years, the Civic Hybrid has developed significant battery pack failure rates.
The list doesn’t include some cars, such as the Toyota Prius, that have excellent reliability. It could be that the Prius hasn’t reached that mileage in great volumes, and it could also mean that owners aren’t ready to sell yet. (Read: “Hybrids Hang Tough as the Miles Rack Up.”)
In its recently published study of all vehicles, iSeeCars found that the models most likely to be advertised with more than 200,000 miles overall were overwhelmingly work trucks and large SUVs, with the Ford F-250 leading the pack.
But most large SUVs have not performed as well in our reliability surveys as pickups. The Chevrolet Suburban and GMC Yukon, Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and Lincoln Navigator cited in the study have all had sub-par reliability most years in our surveys. The Toyota Sequoia is an exception, landing in second place in the iSeeCars study and with a solid reliability record in our surveys.
The prevalence of trucks may be due to several factors, including: commercial users are diligent about maintenance and willing to make major repairs, and acceptance of a truck in rough condition that would have seen a regular car retired. For these reasons, we requested this special view of passenger cars from iSeeCars to inform consumers.
In the end, its data largely aligns with our own findings. Whether you’re looking for a car, truck, or SUV that’s good for the long haul, the best bet is to choose a model with a solid reliability record and keep up with regular maintenance.
Learn how to go the distance yourself, with our special feature on how to make your car last 200,00 miles.
—Jim Travers
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/10-cars-...213000133.html
ConsumerReports:
For many shoppers, choosing a car that can go the distance is an important way to save money. A new study approaches the concept of longevity from an interesting angle, focusing on models that have achieved 200,000 miles.
Put together by the data aggregator iSeeCars.com, the study was based on listings for 30 million vehicles advertised for sale during the last year. Looking at the model years 1981 to 2010, the company ranked those vehicles based on the percentage that achieved the impressive 200,000-mile mark. Not surprising, most were vehicles that also have had good reliability rankings in our annual owner surveys.
We want to be clear that iSeeCars makes no claims about the cars' current condition or about the reliability of these vehicles over time, simply that they’re still on the road.
Here’s the iSeeCars list, in order of most to least ads featuring cars with more than 200,000 miles.
Honda Accord
Subaru Legacy
Toyota Avalon
Honda Odyssey
Nissan Maxima
Toyota Camry
Ford Taurus
Honda Civic
Acura TL
Subaru Outback
Interestingly, the iSeeCars list is made up almost entirely of mainstream sedans, with the only exceptions being the Honda Odyssey minivan and Subaru Outback wagon—although Subaru has offered a low-selling Outback sedan in the past.
These are all vehicles purchased for everyday use and family duty, and not sophisticated luxury models laden with electronic features or vehicles designed for extreme performance or heavy towing. Notably, all but the Taurus are Japanese models. And no European brands made the list.
Our own annual autos reliability survey of more than a million vehicles routinely finds that some of these vehicles, including the TL, Avalon, Camry, and Civic, are reliability all-stars, with many years of very good or better scores. It is worth noting that while the Civic has a long track record of reliability, for certain years, the Civic Hybrid has developed significant battery pack failure rates.
The list doesn’t include some cars, such as the Toyota Prius, that have excellent reliability. It could be that the Prius hasn’t reached that mileage in great volumes, and it could also mean that owners aren’t ready to sell yet. (Read: “Hybrids Hang Tough as the Miles Rack Up.”)
In its recently published study of all vehicles, iSeeCars found that the models most likely to be advertised with more than 200,000 miles overall were overwhelmingly work trucks and large SUVs, with the Ford F-250 leading the pack.
But most large SUVs have not performed as well in our reliability surveys as pickups. The Chevrolet Suburban and GMC Yukon, Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and Lincoln Navigator cited in the study have all had sub-par reliability most years in our surveys. The Toyota Sequoia is an exception, landing in second place in the iSeeCars study and with a solid reliability record in our surveys.
The prevalence of trucks may be due to several factors, including: commercial users are diligent about maintenance and willing to make major repairs, and acceptance of a truck in rough condition that would have seen a regular car retired. For these reasons, we requested this special view of passenger cars from iSeeCars to inform consumers.
In the end, its data largely aligns with our own findings. Whether you’re looking for a car, truck, or SUV that’s good for the long haul, the best bet is to choose a model with a solid reliability record and keep up with regular maintenance.
Learn how to go the distance yourself, with our special feature on how to make your car last 200,00 miles.
—Jim Travers
I still drive a 2006 silverado that has 315,000+ miles. Its mostly in properly maintaining the vehicle instead of driving it into the ground.
03-05-2014, 05:00 PM
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my parents used to have a 1999 plymouth minivan...that car gave problems to no end...they bought it brand new and it wasnt long before all these problems started showing up. They drove it until about 190k miles before selling it to the government. Now they won't buy any american cars.
03-05-2014, 05:20 PM
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My Chevelle had more than 200k miles on it when I sold it but I went through 4 engines, 3 transmissions, 4 torque converters, etc. But I also bracket raced it regularly so that was to be expected. 
1979 and 1985 Celicas both went past 200k
1990 Accord had 280,285 miles on it when I sold it
1999 Mazda 626, as big a POS as it was, had 163,300 miles on it when it was hit from behind and totaled
2002 Nissan Maxima 4AT, 195k and running strong when a drunk ran a light and totaled it
2002 Nissan Maxima 6MT, 165k miles when it got totaled and it was pretty much bulletproof
2004 Honda Accord v6, 149,500 or so miles currently, still looks good so it will be with me past 200k most likely.
1979 and 1985 Celicas both went past 200k
1990 Accord had 280,285 miles on it when I sold it
1999 Mazda 626, as big a POS as it was, had 163,300 miles on it when it was hit from behind and totaled
2002 Nissan Maxima 4AT, 195k and running strong when a drunk ran a light and totaled it
2002 Nissan Maxima 6MT, 165k miles when it got totaled and it was pretty much bulletproof
2004 Honda Accord v6, 149,500 or so miles currently, still looks good so it will be with me past 200k most likely.
03-05-2014, 05:41 PM
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My Chevelle had more than 200k miles on it when I sold it but I went through 4 engines, 3 transmissions, 4 torque converters, etc. But I also bracket raced it regularly so that was to be expected.
1979 and 1985 Celicas both went past 200k
1990 Accord had 280,285 miles on it when I sold it
1999 Mazda 626, as big a POS as it was, had 163,300 miles on it when it was hit from behind and totaled
2002 Nissan Maxima 4AT, 195k and running strong when a drunk ran a light and totaled it
2002 Nissan Maxima 6MT, 165k miles when it got totaled and it was pretty much bulletproof
2004 Honda Accord v6, 149,500 or so miles currently, still looks good so it will be with me past 200k most likely.
1979 and 1985 Celicas both went past 200k
1990 Accord had 280,285 miles on it when I sold it
1999 Mazda 626, as big a POS as it was, had 163,300 miles on it when it was hit from behind and totaled
2002 Nissan Maxima 4AT, 195k and running strong when a drunk ran a light and totaled it
2002 Nissan Maxima 6MT, 165k miles when it got totaled and it was pretty much bulletproof
2004 Honda Accord v6, 149,500 or so miles currently, still looks good so it will be with me past 200k most likely.
so many totaled cars. Dumb drunk drivers.
03-11-2014, 05:05 AM
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yeah theres definitely some failures here and there. but it's exaggerated because only people who have problems post about them. People with no problems don't go around posting "my transmission is still working fine!"
That being said, I would still be a little wary of the 04-06 automatics
That being said, I would still be a little wary of the 04-06 automatics
