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Old 03-02-2020, 06:04 PM
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Can anyone tell me how much tranny oil they think I’m missing? I’m a little confused. Thanks

checked after letting the car warm up, using Honda atf dw1 thanks !

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Add some until the level is between the marks.
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Exactly what is confusing you so we know
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Exactly what is confusing you so we know
just the measurements of how many quarts are missing in regards to where the dip stick is marking at. I wanna add more but don’t wanna overfill
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add more, check
add more check,
add more check.
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Add some until the level is between the marks.
your probably down half ltr to a ltr used the correct fluid

plus if you dont know, you start the vechical then turn it off then check it right away. Am a transmission mechanic, so any questions just ask... Pete...
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Originally Posted by Peter06TL
your probably down half ltr to a ltr used the correct fluid

plus if you dont know, you start the vechical then turn it off then check it right away. Am a transmission mechanic, so any questions just ask... Pete...
thanks I added a quart of atf and it seems to driving fine now. Shifts are less erratic. Thanks
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06 TL tranny issues (surprise)

Hey guys so my TL has been acting weird for a few weeks now, it threw a code (p0746) which is for the a/t pressure clutch solenoid so I got a new one and got it replaced. It seems to have solved the first issue I had which was weird erratic shifts. But now it doing this thing where when I put it into reverse it feels as if it’s almost in neutral and I have to give it gas for reverSe to engage.

also when I’m on the highway and it goes into 5th fear the rpm spike up to almost 4500 before it settles back down to around 2000rpms which is what it coasts on while it’s on 5th gear. Going from 1-2 2-3 and 3-4 are fine. I did a recent fluid swap with Idemitsu h plus but now I’m stuck. Any help will be appreciated.

Also, no cel codes


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Combining your threads, no need to have two about your transmission.


Start looking into an AV6 swap/replacement trans, sounds like it's done.
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Combining your threads, no need to have two about your transmission.


Start looking into an AV6 swap/replacement trans, sounds like it's done.
you think it’s toast?
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sounds like it's slipping and pretty indicative from the symptoms that have been identified thus far.
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Just curious, how many miles on it?
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Originally Posted by thesauceboss
just curious, how many miles on it?
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Sounds about due for a new tranny. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
Sounds about due for a new tranny. Sorry.
it was good just a weeeeek agoooo bro. I changed the fluid every other oil change and everything you really think
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I also work at a transmissions shop, and by what you're saying there's a good chance your trans is toast.. Where is it leaking from? How long were you driving it low on fluid?
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Originally Posted by jaybo19
I also work at a transmissions shop, and by what you're saying there's a good chance your trans is toast.. Where is it leaking from? How long were you driving it low on fluid?
it had a slow drip from the main seal for a while now , it recently had a shortage and I had to take it to an electronic shop to re do the transmission wire harness. After that it was fine I drained the fluid from the drain bolt below and it was almost water like so I replaced it with idemitsu h+. It shifts erratically until it warms up then it’s fine, just when I shift it to reverse I have to give it gas for it to engage
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Originally Posted by Edwin Mathew Flores
it had a slow drip from the main seal for a while now , it recently had a shortage and I had to take it to an electronic shop to re do the transmission wire harness. After that it was fine I drained the fluid from the drain bolt below and it was almost water like so I replaced it with idemitsu h+. It shifts erratically until it warms up then it’s fine, just when I shift it to reverse I have to give it gas for it to engage
Unfortunately, changing the fluid and changing the pressure switches will not be some magical fix and can sometimes even speed up the death of your transmission, depending on how well the trans was maintained before you owned the car.

Chances are, your clutch packs are worn beyond the point of salvaging with routine maintenance. Trans shifting erratically and delayed engagement would support that idea.

If I were you, I would be proactive and start looking for an accord v6 trans with the BAYA serial code (2006-07 I think?) to replace yours. It is a direct fit, though you need the accord torque converter as well. Or, if you have the luxury of having a second car to drive for awhile, you could buy a rebuild kit for your existing trans.
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Originally Posted by TheSauceBoss
Unfortunately, changing the fluid and changing the pressure switches will not be some magical fix and can sometimes even speed up the death of your transmission, depending on how well the trans was maintained before you owned the car.

Chances are, your clutch packs are worn beyond the point of salvaging with routine maintenance. Trans shifting erratically and delayed engagement would support that idea.

If I were you, I would be proactive and start looking for an accord v6 trans with the BAYA serial code (2006-07 I think?) to replace yours. It is a direct fit, though you need the accord torque converter as well. Or, if you have the luxury of having a second car to drive for awhile, you could buy a rebuild kit for your existing trans.

sounds about right. I’m looking to order a new tranny through JdM engine depot near my house. They have them for 625$ with 45k mileage and 7 month warranty. Do you suggest I get a replacement TL trans or go for the accord V6 instead?
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Combining your threads, no need to have two about your transmission.


Start looking into an AV6 swap/replacement trans, sounds like it's done.
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The accord v6 trans is objectively a more durable transmission. If you buy another TL one, you need to be sure that it was properly rebuilt, which is difficult to confirm if you're buying it remanufactured from a vendor sight unseen. I know people here talk about adding the Translab shift kit and sometimes an external cooler when rebuilding the original trans....

Either way, you could have success (or get burned) with either. If you find a low mileage AV6 trans, you should be in good shape, given you maintain it properly. If you go with a rebuilt original, it could last forever, or it could die quicker than your original trans. It's hard to tell when you don't know how it was rebuilt, and with what. You're required to look into your crystal ball here and determine if you want to drive this car into the ground, or if you see yourself owning it for a few more years then moving on.
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Originally Posted by TheSauceBoss
The accord v6 trans is objectively a more durable transmission. If you buy another TL one, you need to be sure that it was properly rebuilt, which is difficult to confirm if you're buying it remanufactured from a vendor sight unseen. I know people here talk about adding the Translab shift kit and sometimes an external cooler when rebuilding the original trans....

Either way, you could have success (or get burned) with either. If you find a low mileage AV6 trans, you should be in good shape, given you maintain it properly. If you go with a rebuilt original, it could last forever, or it could die quicker than your original trans. It's hard to tell when you don't know how it was rebuilt, and with what. You're required to look into your crystal ball here and determine if you want to drive this car into the ground, or if you see yourself owning it for a few more years then moving on.
thank you I appreciate your advice bro!
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Originally Posted by TheSauceBoss
The accord v6 trans is objectively a more durable transmission. If you buy another TL one, you need to be sure that it was properly rebuilt, which is difficult to confirm if you're buying it remanufactured from a vendor sight unseen. I know people here talk about adding the Translab shift kit and sometimes an external cooler when rebuilding the original trans....

Either way, you could have success (or get burned) with either. If you find a low mileage AV6 trans, you should be in good shape, given you maintain it properly. If you go with a rebuilt original, it could last forever, or it could die quicker than your original trans. It's hard to tell when you don't know how it was rebuilt, and with what. You're required to look into your crystal ball here and determine if you want to drive this car into the ground, or if you see yourself owning it for a few more years then moving on.
im buying a used trans with 45k miles bone dry. You happen to know how many quarts of dw1 I need to fill it? Thanks.
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Hey guys so I got a used trans from JDM. Picked it up and switched all the sensors but I noticed the trans filter cartridge is different from my blown one? My old tranny had a housing that you just remove the 3 bolts and swap it out where as this new trans that I got has what looks like a black housing. Is it any different? Did I get the wrong trans?
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pics..?
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ok so first pic is of the original trans that was in my 06 TL and second pic is of the JDM trans I picked up. I circled the filters in both pics. Notice they were different and now I’m confused.
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black looks just like an aftermarket ATF filter
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Good luck going down this route despite everyone else suggesting the Accord V6 swap.. Hopefully it lasts for you!
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Good luck going down this route despite everyone else suggesting the Accord V6 swap.. Hopefully it lasts for you!
It looks aftermarket even with a different housing?


accord too expensive and had more mileage bro
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Originally Posted by Edwin Mathew Flores
It looks aftermarket even with a different housing?


accord too expensive and had more mileage bro
So you ended up with an inferior transmission, even if you paid less money.
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So you ended up with an inferior transmission, even if you paid less money.
not inferior same stock trans with 22k miles proved by paperwork for 600 from JDM depot. Not a bad deal bozo.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
So you ended up with an inferior transmission, even if you paid less money.
the original lasted to 170k if this one lasts even 1/3 of that I’d be happy.
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I'm guessing you meant bozo in a nice way?

We are all here to help and want to understand the logic behind going against what most people are recommending.

For the sake of others who may read this thinking of this...

it sounds like price was a big influence which is fine, but a lot of people get more than 1/3 of 170 from their used BAYA/AV6 transmission in that price range.

some food for thought: A BAYA with anywhere close to 22K miles would easily be twice the price; there has to be a reason for that.

the black filter one the donor appears to be the old spin on type filters found on the 2G TL. could be something that they continued to use on the JDM version, who knows. weight your options with which one you want to go with, the pros/cons are all listed out in the AV6 swap thread.

I would carefully inspect the plug on backside to make sure it matches what you have (if not you need to swap) and the bracket over the ATF warmer, as it may end up supporting the throttle body like in the 2G TL...more homework if you haven't confirmed in 3G swap specific threads.
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Originally Posted by whitetiger5
I'm guessing you meant bozo in a nice way?

We are all here to help and want to understand the logic behind going against what most people are recommending.

For the sake of others who may read this thinking of this...

it sounds like price was a big influence which is fine, but a lot of people get more than 1/3 of 170 from their used BAYA/AV6 transmission in that price range.

some food for thought: A BAYA with anywhere close to 22K miles would easily be twice the price; there has to be a reason for that.

the black filter one the donor appears to be the old spin on type filters found on the 2G TL. could be something that they continued to use on the JDM version, who knows. weight your options with which one you want to go with, the pros/cons are all listed out in the AV6 swap thread.

I would carefully inspect the plug on backside to make sure it matches what you have (if not you need to swap) and the bracket over the ATF warmer, as it may end up supporting the throttle body like in the 2G TL...more homework if you haven't confirmed in 3G swap specific threads.
thanks man appreciate it
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Update : after a week of driving it’s flawless. Thank you all for advice
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Glad your car is back up and running, but you must be a gambling man if you bought a non-rebuilt OEM trans, regardless of mileage. I hope it lasts a long time, but if it doesn't, be sure to let us know...for science haha
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Originally Posted by TheSauceBoss
Glad your car is back up and running, but you must be a gambling man if you bought a non-rebuilt OEM trans, regardless of mileage. I hope it lasts a long time, but if it doesn't, be sure to let us know...for science haha

I used to think this as well, turns out that if a transmission design is good (as the case with the BAYA) chances of surviving are much better for a transmission that’s never been opened outside of the factory.
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Originally Posted by whitetiger5
I used to think this as well, turns out that if a transmission design is good (as the case with the BAYA) chances of surviving are much better for a transmission that’s never been opened outside of the factory.
I mean sure, the idea is to never have to open up/rebuild a trans, but here the original design for the 2004-2006 was far from good. Everything from dragging the clutch packs when you drop to 3rd gear, to poor fluid circulation and heat transfer issues....threads from these forums had some people complaining about their OEM transmissions failing at as little as 40k miles. Which is why I said OP must be a gambling man to take on that same exact risk again.
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Originally Posted by TheSauceBoss
I mean sure, the idea is to never have to open up/rebuild a trans, but here the original design for the 2004-2006 was far from good. Everything from dragging the clutch packs when you drop to 3rd gear, to poor fluid circulation and heat transfer issues....threads from these forums had some people complaining about their OEM transmissions failing at as little as 40k miles. Which is why I said OP must be a gambling man to take on that same exact risk again.

oops. My bad. I thought he got the AV6, getting the same thing just doesn’t compute.
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Time will tell how long it''ll last Good to hear that it's currently working so far


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