06 TL tranny issues (surprise)
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Can anyone tell me how much tranny oil they think I’m missing? I’m a little confused. Thanks
checked after letting the car warm up, using Honda atf dw1 thanks !
checked after letting the car warm up, using Honda atf dw1 thanks !
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add more, check
add more check,
add more check.
add more check,
add more check.
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thanks I added a quart of atf and it seems to driving fine now. Shifts are less erratic. Thanks
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06 TL tranny issues (surprise)
Hey guys so my TL has been acting weird for a few weeks now, it threw a code (p0746) which is for the a/t pressure clutch solenoid so I got a new one and got it replaced. It seems to have solved the first issue I had which was weird erratic shifts. But now it doing this thing where when I put it into reverse it feels as if it’s almost in neutral and I have to give it gas for reverSe to engage.
also when I’m on the highway and it goes into 5th fear the rpm spike up to almost 4500 before it settles back down to around 2000rpms which is what it coasts on while it’s on 5th gear. Going from 1-2 2-3 and 3-4 are fine. I did a recent fluid swap with Idemitsu h plus but now I’m stuck. Any help will be appreciated.
Also, no cel codes
thanks.
also when I’m on the highway and it goes into 5th fear the rpm spike up to almost 4500 before it settles back down to around 2000rpms which is what it coasts on while it’s on 5th gear. Going from 1-2 2-3 and 3-4 are fine. I did a recent fluid swap with Idemitsu h plus but now I’m stuck. Any help will be appreciated.
Also, no cel codes
thanks.
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Combining your threads, no need to have two about your transmission.
Start looking into an AV6 swap/replacement trans, sounds like it's done.
Start looking into an AV6 swap/replacement trans, sounds like it's done.
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sounds like it's slipping and pretty indicative from the symptoms that have been identified thus far.
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Sounds about due for a new tranny. Sorry.
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I also work at a transmissions shop, and by what you're saying there's a good chance your trans is toast.. Where is it leaking from? How long were you driving it low on fluid?
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it had a slow drip from the main seal for a while now , it recently had a shortage and I had to take it to an electronic shop to re do the transmission wire harness. After that it was fine I drained the fluid from the drain bolt below and it was almost water like so I replaced it with idemitsu h+. It shifts erratically until it warms up then it’s fine, just when I shift it to reverse I have to give it gas for it to engage
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it had a slow drip from the main seal for a while now , it recently had a shortage and I had to take it to an electronic shop to re do the transmission wire harness. After that it was fine I drained the fluid from the drain bolt below and it was almost water like so I replaced it with idemitsu h+. It shifts erratically until it warms up then it’s fine, just when I shift it to reverse I have to give it gas for it to engage
Chances are, your clutch packs are worn beyond the point of salvaging with routine maintenance. Trans shifting erratically and delayed engagement would support that idea.
If I were you, I would be proactive and start looking for an accord v6 trans with the BAYA serial code (2006-07 I think?) to replace yours. It is a direct fit, though you need the accord torque converter as well. Or, if you have the luxury of having a second car to drive for awhile, you could buy a rebuild kit for your existing trans.
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Unfortunately, changing the fluid and changing the pressure switches will not be some magical fix and can sometimes even speed up the death of your transmission, depending on how well the trans was maintained before you owned the car.
Chances are, your clutch packs are worn beyond the point of salvaging with routine maintenance. Trans shifting erratically and delayed engagement would support that idea.
If I were you, I would be proactive and start looking for an accord v6 trans with the BAYA serial code (2006-07 I think?) to replace yours. It is a direct fit, though you need the accord torque converter as well. Or, if you have the luxury of having a second car to drive for awhile, you could buy a rebuild kit for your existing trans.
Chances are, your clutch packs are worn beyond the point of salvaging with routine maintenance. Trans shifting erratically and delayed engagement would support that idea.
If I were you, I would be proactive and start looking for an accord v6 trans with the BAYA serial code (2006-07 I think?) to replace yours. It is a direct fit, though you need the accord torque converter as well. Or, if you have the luxury of having a second car to drive for awhile, you could buy a rebuild kit for your existing trans.
sounds about right. I’m looking to order a new tranny through JdM engine depot near my house. They have them for 625$ with 45k mileage and 7 month warranty. Do you suggest I get a replacement TL trans or go for the accord V6 instead?
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The accord v6 trans is objectively a more durable transmission. If you buy another TL one, you need to be sure that it was properly rebuilt, which is difficult to confirm if you're buying it remanufactured from a vendor sight unseen. I know people here talk about adding the Translab shift kit and sometimes an external cooler when rebuilding the original trans....
Either way, you could have success (or get burned) with either. If you find a low mileage AV6 trans, you should be in good shape, given you maintain it properly. If you go with a rebuilt original, it could last forever, or it could die quicker than your original trans. It's hard to tell when you don't know how it was rebuilt, and with what. You're required to look into your crystal ball here and determine if you want to drive this car into the ground, or if you see yourself owning it for a few more years then moving on.
Either way, you could have success (or get burned) with either. If you find a low mileage AV6 trans, you should be in good shape, given you maintain it properly. If you go with a rebuilt original, it could last forever, or it could die quicker than your original trans. It's hard to tell when you don't know how it was rebuilt, and with what. You're required to look into your crystal ball here and determine if you want to drive this car into the ground, or if you see yourself owning it for a few more years then moving on.
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The accord v6 trans is objectively a more durable transmission. If you buy another TL one, you need to be sure that it was properly rebuilt, which is difficult to confirm if you're buying it remanufactured from a vendor sight unseen. I know people here talk about adding the Translab shift kit and sometimes an external cooler when rebuilding the original trans....
Either way, you could have success (or get burned) with either. If you find a low mileage AV6 trans, you should be in good shape, given you maintain it properly. If you go with a rebuilt original, it could last forever, or it could die quicker than your original trans. It's hard to tell when you don't know how it was rebuilt, and with what. You're required to look into your crystal ball here and determine if you want to drive this car into the ground, or if you see yourself owning it for a few more years then moving on.
Either way, you could have success (or get burned) with either. If you find a low mileage AV6 trans, you should be in good shape, given you maintain it properly. If you go with a rebuilt original, it could last forever, or it could die quicker than your original trans. It's hard to tell when you don't know how it was rebuilt, and with what. You're required to look into your crystal ball here and determine if you want to drive this car into the ground, or if you see yourself owning it for a few more years then moving on.
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The accord v6 trans is objectively a more durable transmission. If you buy another TL one, you need to be sure that it was properly rebuilt, which is difficult to confirm if you're buying it remanufactured from a vendor sight unseen. I know people here talk about adding the Translab shift kit and sometimes an external cooler when rebuilding the original trans....
Either way, you could have success (or get burned) with either. If you find a low mileage AV6 trans, you should be in good shape, given you maintain it properly. If you go with a rebuilt original, it could last forever, or it could die quicker than your original trans. It's hard to tell when you don't know how it was rebuilt, and with what. You're required to look into your crystal ball here and determine if you want to drive this car into the ground, or if you see yourself owning it for a few more years then moving on.
Either way, you could have success (or get burned) with either. If you find a low mileage AV6 trans, you should be in good shape, given you maintain it properly. If you go with a rebuilt original, it could last forever, or it could die quicker than your original trans. It's hard to tell when you don't know how it was rebuilt, and with what. You're required to look into your crystal ball here and determine if you want to drive this car into the ground, or if you see yourself owning it for a few more years then moving on.
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Hey guys so I got a used trans from JDM. Picked it up and switched all the sensors but I noticed the trans filter cartridge is different from my blown one? My old tranny had a housing that you just remove the 3 bolts and swap it out where as this new trans that I got has what looks like a black housing. Is it any different? Did I get the wrong trans?
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pics..?
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black looks just like an aftermarket ATF filter
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Good luck going down this route despite everyone else suggesting the Accord V6 swap.. Hopefully it lasts for you!
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I'm guessing you meant bozo in a nice way?
We are all here to help and want to understand the logic behind going against what most people are recommending.
For the sake of others who may read this thinking of this...
it sounds like price was a big influence which is fine, but a lot of people get more than 1/3 of 170 from their used BAYA/AV6 transmission in that price range.
some food for thought: A BAYA with anywhere close to 22K miles would easily be twice the price; there has to be a reason for that.
the black filter one the donor appears to be the old spin on type filters found on the 2G TL. could be something that they continued to use on the JDM version, who knows. weight your options with which one you want to go with, the pros/cons are all listed out in the AV6 swap thread.
I would carefully inspect the plug on backside to make sure it matches what you have (if not you need to swap) and the bracket over the ATF warmer, as it may end up supporting the throttle body like in the 2G TL...more homework if you haven't confirmed in 3G swap specific threads.
We are all here to help and want to understand the logic behind going against what most people are recommending.
For the sake of others who may read this thinking of this...
it sounds like price was a big influence which is fine, but a lot of people get more than 1/3 of 170 from their used BAYA/AV6 transmission in that price range.
some food for thought: A BAYA with anywhere close to 22K miles would easily be twice the price; there has to be a reason for that.
the black filter one the donor appears to be the old spin on type filters found on the 2G TL. could be something that they continued to use on the JDM version, who knows. weight your options with which one you want to go with, the pros/cons are all listed out in the AV6 swap thread.
I would carefully inspect the plug on backside to make sure it matches what you have (if not you need to swap) and the bracket over the ATF warmer, as it may end up supporting the throttle body like in the 2G TL...more homework if you haven't confirmed in 3G swap specific threads.
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I'm guessing you meant bozo in a nice way?
We are all here to help and want to understand the logic behind going against what most people are recommending.
For the sake of others who may read this thinking of this...
it sounds like price was a big influence which is fine, but a lot of people get more than 1/3 of 170 from their used BAYA/AV6 transmission in that price range.
some food for thought: A BAYA with anywhere close to 22K miles would easily be twice the price; there has to be a reason for that.
the black filter one the donor appears to be the old spin on type filters found on the 2G TL. could be something that they continued to use on the JDM version, who knows. weight your options with which one you want to go with, the pros/cons are all listed out in the AV6 swap thread.
I would carefully inspect the plug on backside to make sure it matches what you have (if not you need to swap) and the bracket over the ATF warmer, as it may end up supporting the throttle body like in the 2G TL...more homework if you haven't confirmed in 3G swap specific threads.
We are all here to help and want to understand the logic behind going against what most people are recommending.
For the sake of others who may read this thinking of this...
it sounds like price was a big influence which is fine, but a lot of people get more than 1/3 of 170 from their used BAYA/AV6 transmission in that price range.
some food for thought: A BAYA with anywhere close to 22K miles would easily be twice the price; there has to be a reason for that.
the black filter one the donor appears to be the old spin on type filters found on the 2G TL. could be something that they continued to use on the JDM version, who knows. weight your options with which one you want to go with, the pros/cons are all listed out in the AV6 swap thread.
I would carefully inspect the plug on backside to make sure it matches what you have (if not you need to swap) and the bracket over the ATF warmer, as it may end up supporting the throttle body like in the 2G TL...more homework if you haven't confirmed in 3G swap specific threads.
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Glad your car is back up and running, but you must be a gambling man if you bought a non-rebuilt OEM trans, regardless of mileage. I hope it lasts a long time, but if it doesn't, be sure to let us know...for science haha
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I used to think this as well, turns out that if a transmission design is good (as the case with the BAYA) chances of surviving are much better for a transmission that’s never been opened outside of the factory.
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I mean sure, the idea is to never have to open up/rebuild a trans, but here the original design for the 2004-2006 was far from good. Everything from dragging the clutch packs when you drop to 3rd gear, to poor fluid circulation and heat transfer issues....threads from these forums had some people complaining about their OEM transmissions failing at as little as 40k miles. Which is why I said OP must be a gambling man to take on that same exact risk again.
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I mean sure, the idea is to never have to open up/rebuild a trans, but here the original design for the 2004-2006 was far from good. Everything from dragging the clutch packs when you drop to 3rd gear, to poor fluid circulation and heat transfer issues....threads from these forums had some people complaining about their OEM transmissions failing at as little as 40k miles. Which is why I said OP must be a gambling man to take on that same exact risk again.
oops. My bad. I thought he got the AV6, getting the same thing just doesn’t compute.
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Time will tell how long it''ll last Good to hear that it's currently working so far