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Old 08-10-2010, 07:18 PM
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06 TL - hard to control when accelerating? (WOT)

Hey Guys. I'm new here and to the TL. Just traded in my 96 SC400 for a 06 fully loaded TL. I got it yesterday and still getting used to the carnage FWD.

The car seems to be hard to control when "giving it the beans" from a stop or even 10-15mph. It's certified, and I'm just wondering if this is an issue or just FWD?
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torque steer ... an issue with all high powered fwd cars

but congratz on the car and welcome to the zine
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Well I'm just glad to know it's not an issue with the car.

Thanks for the reply and welcome.
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Yup, FWD. Get use to it. Even happens when you punch the car at very high speeds. I get the torque steering almost everytime I drop to 4th gear and take off at 60MPH
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Torque steer is almost non existant in mine with the sticky tires. Second most important on the list of getting rid of torque steer was the Koni shocks with adjustable rebound damping.
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Yup, FWD. Get use to it. Even happens when you punch the car at very high speeds. I get the torque steering almost everytime I drop to 4th gear and take off at 60MPH
That's not normal.
Old 08-10-2010, 08:58 PM
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Torque steer is almost non existant in mine with the sticky tires. Second most important on the list of getting rid of torque steer was the Koni shocks with adjustable rebound damping.
+1

one of the main reasons I got summer tires as soon as I wore down the stock michelins.
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+2 on sticky tires minimizing torque steer

Although my car came with Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 winter tires when purchased last weekend. They are in new-like condition and I'm using them currently in summer/dry roads as they are my only choice now. These tires do cause some squirminess in quick lane changing & hard cornering. Will be replacing with performance all-seasons when they wear out (minimize expenses).
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Like everyone else said, it's just a side effect of having a FWD car.
And welcome to Azine.
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HP FWD + unequal lenght drive shafts = torque steer and it is normal. The type of tires and suspension may help alleviate it but it cannot get rid of it entirely. if you want to get rid of torque steer you need to get an equal lenght driveshaft setup something that is almost impossible to do in a FWD tranverse setup
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
HP FWD + unequal lenght drive shafts = torque steer and it is normal. The type of tires and suspension may help alleviate it but it cannot get rid of it entirely. if you want to get rid of torque steer you need to get an equal lenght driveshaft setup something that is almost impossible to do in a FWD tranverse setup
No slip with a fairly tight (not worn) suspension will show practically no TS. I can floor mine from a stand still with no hands on the steering wheel on the NT05s on and it goes completely straight as long as the road is somewhat level. You almost forget it's FWD with good tires.
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TQ Steer's a bitch!
Congrats on car!
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Originally Posted by Souljah
TQ Steer's a bitch!
Congrats on car!

Souljah, I showed my class the video clip from your signature as an "ice breaker." Hands down the hardest i've heard and seen Army soldiers laugh/cry. Saved the link for my future classes.

OP...I remember during my test drive I damn near took the car off the road accelerating to get past a car who was merging right into me. I think everyone in the car pissed themselves a little, to include the salesman...lol.

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Old 08-10-2010, 10:35 PM
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Go drive a Maxima and you'll appreciate how little torque steer the TL has.
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Souljah, I showed my class the video clip from your signature as an "ice breaker." Hands down the hardest i've heard and seen Army soldiers laugh/cry. Saved the link for my future classes.

Haa ha. You welcome.
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I'm starting to think there is some sort of alignment issue possibly.. When cruising at 70 or higher the steering wheel kind of vibrates. I can take my hands off of the wheel during this, but still don't think it's right.

Now to find time to take it to the dealer :/
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The 06 is actually better than the 04/05. I had a 04 and it was a mess. The 06 supposedly has a new engine mapping to lessen the torque steer. It's still a little rough, but no where near as bad as my 04 was.

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Originally Posted by Noonan
I'm starting to think there is some sort of alignment issue possibly.. When cruising at 70 or higher the steering wheel kind of vibrates. I can take my hands off of the wheel during this, but still don't think it's right.

Now to find time to take it to the dealer :/
65-75 MPH range balance issue. Quite common with the TL as many shops have a difficult time getting them perfect. First, check for irregular tread wear front and rear to be certain that alignment is correct before proceeding with the balancing.
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65-75 MPH range balance issue. Quite common with the TL as many shops have a difficult time getting them perfect. First, check for irregular tread wear front and rear to be certain that alignment is correct before proceeding with the balancing.
The tires are brand new. Thanks for the reply.
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Originally Posted by Noonan
The tires are brand new. Thanks for the reply.
Take them back and have them rebalanced. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Noonan
I'm starting to think there is some sort of alignment issue possibly.. When cruising at 70 or higher the steering wheel kind of vibrates. I can take my hands off of the wheel during this, but still don't think it's right.

Now to find time to take it to the dealer :/
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The tires are brand new. Thanks for the reply.

The TL's suspension is very sensitive to balancing. One of my wheels was off by 10 grams and was causing a vibration at 70MPH. Make sure to go to a shop that uses a HUNTER ROAD FORCE BALANCER as these apply pressure to the tire and are much more sensitive.

Alignment is only if the car is drifting or if you are getting irregular tire wear. What tires do you currently have on you car? Size?

As many have said, tires make a huge difference! The shitty Turanza EL42's will make you go into the wall versus tires like the NT05's or good summer tires that'll hold on well. All I can suggest is that you look into your tires and see what pressure they are at (lower the pressure, harder it is to break traction, however the lower the pressure the steering will feel less precise).
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sorry im new to this, but is "torque steer" when it pulls to the right? Ive had this prob for a while now. I have brand NEW michelin pilot sports as something... i paid almost almost a grand for them, i also had my car aligned at the dealer and tire kingdom and it still pulls to the right... anything else i could do
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thanks everyone
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When you get accustomed to the car, you'll find yourself counter-steering just as torque steer hits. It's pretty rhythmic once you figure it out. For example, I know that my car will immediately pull right, then left, then right again - at decreasing intervals. It actually can become kind of fun.
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Just had both compliance bushings replaced and an alignment and there is absolutely no torque steer even when pulling out of a corner.

OP, this thread pretty much covered it but if you still think it's excessive, check bushings and alignment.
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when I bought my car new the torque steer seemed noticeable, but like others have said sticky tires and suspension mods and i dont even notice it at all now really. It is a fwd car so you cant just stomp on the gas pedal from a stop you have to get used to where to launch it.

On a side note this seemed to eliminate/alleviate my wheel hop issue also.

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its normal for fwd to give torque steer especially when theres a lot of power. torque steer is pretty bad in the type S and the steering itself is pretty heavy.
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