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Old 01-05-2005, 10:17 AM
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05 TL backseat leather has lots of wrinkles!

For all of you guys with 05 TL's, can you check your rear seats and look at



My passenger side rear seat edge is really wrinkled like the leather wasn't stretched correctly or there isn't enough coushion material to stretch the "leather" out correctly (see below):



Here is the rear passenger seat on the driver's side:



As you can see, there is a big difference between the fitment. And I have not had any rear passengers when I got the car. What I want to know is, is this a characteristic in all/most 05 TL's or do you think I have a beef to make with ACURA? I already took it into the dealer and the service manager was saying that it is just a "characteristic" of the leather and Acura won't do anything about it. Another service guy said that the seat was that way because when the car was made-ready, the tech pulled too hard on the plastic wrap that it lifted that portion of the seat up causing the loose-look of the seat/leather. This same guy said they fixed it was best as they could (whatever), but it still looks the same to me. So what do I do guys? Drop it or go around to a different dealer who will try to do something about it? Ayudame, por favor.

Sorry about the big pics, I forgot to reduce the size.
Old 01-05-2005, 10:21 AM
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I have the same problem with my 05 TL. Nice color combo by the way. Got the same.
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Yup... Not quite as bad but pretty much the same....

C'est la vie...

The look gives it character. Like a nice comfy bomber jacket.
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Maybe we should have a poll.

Is your 05 TL rear passenger seat edge wrinkled like octogenarian skin?
Old 01-05-2005, 10:42 AM
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I can check this weekend when I get back to Houston.
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So, 05's back seat doesn't have "3 stitched sections", right?




Btw, my rear seat looks the same as yours... but mine is parchment... I feel it's ok...
Old 01-05-2005, 10:48 AM
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The vinyl/leather material for the backseat appears to be different (cheaper-imagine that) from that of the front seats. I am sure they screwed up on this (I have the same looking back seats).

It is "characteristic" of this car!
Old 01-05-2005, 11:00 AM
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My 04 TL has same issue. Dealer will replace under warranty.
Old 01-05-2005, 11:15 AM
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I have the same wrinkled mess. I also didn't notice that the back only has '2 stitched' sections. It really doesn't bother me too much.
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Originally Posted by pinito
My 04 TL has same issue. Dealer will replace under warranty.
Man, so how come the dealer is replacing your seat under warranty? My dealer keeps telling me that leather seating problems like mine is a non-issue with Acura and they will not authorize any funds to fix seat "characteristics" and it's not a warranty issue. They still get paid, so what's the problem?

I personally feel that this "characteristic" is a poor upholstery job. I guess if it is on all 05 TL's the dealer isn't gonna do squat unless they value customer satisfaction and business and what the luxury brand of Acura should represent before, during, and after the sale.

Seems like some dealers will go the extra mile for some customers and others won't. What a shame.
Old 01-05-2005, 03:33 PM
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Take the service manager out to the showroom and look at another car. If that car looks like yours, then it's not an issue, but if the car in the showroom looks the way they're supposed to look....raise HELL!!!!
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Originally Posted by txathlete
...Seems like some dealers will go the extra mile for some customers and others won't. What a shame.
Indeed!! It's hard to apply the consistent starndard to all dealers. Although we assume all dealers should do the same excellent services to customers, this won't happen until Acura fully starts to pay the serious attention into this topic.
Old 01-05-2005, 04:06 PM
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our dealer is a great one but had one flaw; forgot 2 contact us for insurance..... but otherwise, is a great dealer. havnt been there since we bought the car (june 04) but havnt gotten 4000 miles yet but yea, our rear seats look the same, especially the drivers. i think that the bolstering for the hips when you get in is 2 high to slide in, but the seats are great nevertheless. But in your ..... problem, you're lucky too; it dosnt look like you hav butt prints. o and yes, the back seat HAD 3 section for the 04, i think they changed it to 4(?) for the 05s to stop the butt prints
Old 01-05-2005, 05:23 PM
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The 05 has the same rear seat as the 04. Mine doesn't look like that though, and I have never had any rear passengers in my car either. It's possble that the prep guys did sit in the back while prepping your car. You can make an issue out of it with the dealer and they may change the seats once. Try checking out some TL's in the dealer showroom to see if the back seats look like yours. You can be sure that there have been plenty of people getting in and out of a car on the showroom floor. If the ones in the showroom look better than yours then push them to change your rear seats.
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I would try conditioning the leather and push the seat underneath the back part. See if that helps stretch it out. Judging from the pictures it looks like it's not positioned correctly. Just my honest idea. G'Luck!
Old 01-05-2005, 07:26 PM
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My seats look exactly like that.
Old 01-05-2005, 07:54 PM
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Most TL I've seen has that same problems. It looks jacked up, but most are like that. I turned my car away cuz of that, but later I saw 6 other cars with that look.
Old 01-05-2005, 08:05 PM
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In my 05 TL the front seats are 3 panels and the back seats 2 panels (where your butt sits on). I don't have any problems with the seat where your butt sits in, it's that side bolster(?). It's all wrinkly. IMO it should be smooth or at least as smooth as the driver's side rear passenger side bolster (like in the pic).

Seems like alot of you guys have this problem. I suppose it bothers me alot more than some. The first pic really shows it. Just terrible.
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My 05 Quartz drivers seat is "building character" like that.
Old 01-05-2005, 10:13 PM
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My back seat looks the same. It was like that when I picked it up from Acura. However, it doesn't bother me in the least. I never sit back there. I don't even notice them, when I put my laptop bag back there on the floor when I load up to go to and from work.
Old 01-05-2005, 11:51 PM
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Just noticed my back seats are the same as yours. Though I'd like a nice smooth look, I'm not going to complain.
Old 01-06-2005, 01:00 AM
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If you've ever completely reupholstered a car (from fabric to leather), you'll find it's a fact that there will be variations in fitment, no matter how meticulous and careful the installation. Weather also affects the appearance: more wrinkles in winter cold, and less in summer heat.
Old 01-06-2005, 01:34 AM
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Leather has never been a TL strongpoint. What do you expect for the money. Go play with the Nav, it will make you feel better!
Old 01-06-2005, 08:35 AM
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I dont have any cars with a leather interior but, I dont see anything wrong with that backseat. So long as its not cracking, terribly distorted or discolored it looks fine to me.
Old 01-06-2005, 09:08 AM
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My look much better, but that because I picked it from about 5 cars when buying. I noticed that most back seats weren't tight and looked "bad". I think that workmanship is simply poor!! but I love my TL.....
Old 01-06-2005, 09:48 AM
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I've just checked all seats on my 2005 nav TL and I do not have any wrinkles!
You should get it back to your dealer and make a big case out of it!
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