aznkikaz

iTrader: (2)

So... me and my friends had some time to kill tonight and we decided to go over to the local warehouse and do some runs. I drive the 04 TL, its auto and I thought I would smoke them but NOOO was I wrong =[.

First run I honked 3 times to start it off and my friend in the 04 ZHP ( 6 speed ) blasted off about 3 cars ahead but I was pretty even with the 06 330i until about 80 when he started pulling away.

Second run it was only me and the ZHP, from a roll 40 to 100 and i got the lead by downshifting to 2nd but by 80 mph I got left in the dust again =[

Im sad

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Mizouse

ludachrisvt

iTrader: (2)

a 6MT would have done a bit better (i think!)

paultl

unfortuantely TLs arent fast, who cares! What matters is you got a good looking car.

Mizouse

ehh.. imo i like the look of the e46 330ci ZHP over the TL but thats just me, but the interior on the TL is WAY better than the bimmer's

samkws

really? i pulled away from a Z4 3.0i but that's only 215hp thou

andrew_gordon

I think that the 3.0's have 225 if i'm not mistaken

F23A4

You are aware that something like that should be videotaped.

Was the E90 AT or MT??

F23A4

The E90 330i 3.0L has 255hp....but after driving it, it felt like it had stronger power delivery than my 255hp 02 Maxima.

The E90 325i 3.0L has 215hp now.

CL Platano

You had to do something completely wrong because the TL kills the 330 by atleast 3 car lengths..I've seen it a gazillion times..Are you sure they weren't modded?

samkws

try Gran Turismo 4, the CL-S 6spd beats teh E90 330i

aznkikaz

iTrader: (2)

No.. like I said I kept up to them fairly well, it was just that the SS mode in my TL doesn't shift as well as manuals... both of them were manual and I couldn't get a good launch with my car. None of them them were modded and for sure the ZHP is faster off the line 0-60 in 5.6 as listed by C&D, and the E90 around 5.9.

Monte TLS,MAX

I ran an E90 330 auto with 8,000 miles on it (my brothers) and I got the jump (ahead by 3/4 car) but I could not pull from him nor could he gain up to 80....

juruki

iTrader: (2)

is the E90 the new one? I raced one and beat him by 1 and a half car length from 50 to 100.
I have headers by the way...

Bread-A Spec

yeah....that's why....cuz you have headers.....if not,it will be the same or i would say our Type S engine(when you kick VTEC in) is still a bit faster than a stock 330i....

Actuary

so given those info, I will be able to beat new 330i AT with my 3G AT?.

03Sheermax

Thats because German horses are stronger than japanese horses lol.

F23A4

For real, . But the E90 330i 5AT I drove felt at least as quick at the Atlima SE-R 5AT I drove and that also felt quicker than my 02 Maxima. Again, this is strictly SOTP.

Stock vs stock, I'd put my money on the 330i. 6MT vs 6MT, it's a driver's race.

nikko

The reason why E90 330i auto is faster then TL automatic (stock) is because of tranny. Power-wise they are the same (255 bhp) however while TL gets around 200 hp at wheels E90 gets approx 230 hp. Plus don't forget that E 90 is 6 speed automatic whereas TL is 5 speed and the gearing is different.

Mizouse

you guys do know that most other cars have a variable valve timing system? toyota with VVTL-i, BMW with double VANOS, nissan with VVL (only in japan thou), ford, porshe, ferrari, and mitsubishi with mivec that they're heavily advertising.

F23A4

While no doubt the E90's gears are more agressive and efficient, I doubt that there's only 10% drivetrain loss with the Steptronic (as the '230whp' claim would indicate).

nikko

The tranny losses, according to my dealer, are around 15%.

samkws

10-12% of manual tranny, but auto should be more and 15% seems too optimistic coz the torque converter sucks up the power a lot

nikko

They say that the torque converters for E90 and E60 have been re-designed and power losses are reduced to the point where the auto tranny has almost the same efficiency as manual one. I tend to believe this because if you take a look at the numbers (330i manual vs automatic) the difference is rather slim.

Actuary

I thought 3G auto does 0-60 in 6.5 or somewhere around. As well as 330i auto

nikko

Manual is around 5.7 sec and automatic is 5.9.

Ryons02TLTypeS

Alright u get a car ahead to compensate fo rthe auto...... after that u shouls smoke him.... Some my friends 328i all the time. Considering when he hits 2nd hes out.... His is an auto...

Ryons02TLTypeS

Corection.... I dont know what happened, but i sed" I smoke him all the time but when he hits 2nd hes out...." But when he hit 2nd, im in VTEC still in 1st.....

Actuary

This is new 330i, right? Hmmmm so if I hit my gas pedal 0.3 seconds quicker than the other driver, considering best 3G AT time is 6.2 seconds, I will be neck to neck?