3G TL (2004-2008)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

03 tls vs 03 3.5 altima se

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-17-2010, 05:40 PM
  #1  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
03blueTLtype-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Huntley, IL
Age: 34
Posts: 84
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
03 tls vs 03 3.5 altima se

just lost to a 03 3.5 altima se when i have a 03 tls wtf how do i lose to that someone explain and i need to beat him so help me out wat can i do to my car
Old 03-17-2010, 05:59 PM
  #2  
Intermediate
 
is19sEcondsSlow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: sick lake city
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
drive faster, or maybe clip his rear bumper sending him into a vicious rollover you will for sure beat it then
Old 03-17-2010, 06:42 PM
  #3  
2003 Accord Coupe V6
iTrader: (2)
 
SatinSilverAV6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Oceanside, Ca
Age: 41
Posts: 1,825
Received 74 Likes on 58 Posts
Originally Posted by 03blueTLtype-s
just lost to a 03 3.5 altima se when i have a 03 tls wtf how do i lose to that someone explain and i need to beat him so help me out wat can i do to my car
Was he auto or manual?

The 03 3.5L Altima SE with the 4AT is a high 14 second car stock. Its basically a drivers race with a TL-S like yours. Now a 5MT Altima SE is a low-mid 14 second car stock and is faster than your TL-S. I am not suprised by the outcome.

I beat a stock 02 Altima 3.5L SE 4AT in my accord when I had intake.
Old 03-17-2010, 06:47 PM
  #4  
philly flickin'
iTrader: (3)
 
jaMezBOI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: GTA, Canada
Age: 34
Posts: 895
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Was it the SE or the SE-R? SE-R will win stock vs stock

I have the same car as you and my advise is to get a CAI, UR pulley, and headers to help, then if you have money get a high flow cat, exhaust and 09 Intake Manifold.

My TL-S is fully bolted minus the 09 IM and I've beaten G35's and 350z's. But with all that work my car still isnt fast at all. Doubt Ill break 13's. If you want to go fast do a 6pd swap with a supercharger. Then you wont have any problems lol
Old 03-17-2010, 06:49 PM
  #5  
LIST/RAMEN/WING MAHSTA 짱
iTrader: (16)
 
princelybug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 22,454
Received 207 Likes on 158 Posts
I'm not surprised. Even if you have bolt-ons, that Altima will beat you.
Old 03-17-2010, 07:11 PM
  #6  
I got the Shifts
iTrader: (5)
 
phee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Age: 35
Posts: 14,203
Received 230 Likes on 163 Posts
bigger engine. more tq. probably better maintained car
Old 03-17-2010, 08:11 PM
  #7  
04Tl
iTrader: (1)
 
Yonkers914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Yonkers, New York
Age: 33
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Not suprised at all just take some time and look at the alitma, maxima's etc. vq35 engines ur 2nd gen tl's fully bolted still wont beat a fully bolted automatic altima.
Old 03-17-2010, 08:21 PM
  #8  
Advanced
 
03typeSti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
just be happy cruising an Acura instead of a nissan.. giddy up
Old 03-17-2010, 08:23 PM
  #9  
Under construction
iTrader: (3)
 
alexSU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Charlotte NC
Age: 37
Posts: 5,007
Received 96 Likes on 68 Posts
buy a faster car
Old 03-17-2010, 08:30 PM
  #10  
04Tl
iTrader: (1)
 
Yonkers914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Yonkers, New York
Age: 33
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
lol^^^ buy a 6mt CL-s or 3rd gen TL 6mt if u wanna stay acura.
Old 03-17-2010, 08:47 PM
  #11  
Under construction
iTrader: (3)
 
alexSU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Charlotte NC
Age: 37
Posts: 5,007
Received 96 Likes on 68 Posts
Originally Posted by Yonkers914
lol^^^ buy a 6mt CL-s or 3rd gen TL 6mt if u wanna stay acura.
yes sir its not the fastest thing out there but its enough
Old 03-18-2010, 06:59 AM
  #12  
Senior Moderator
 
F23A4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Age: 56
Posts: 17,892
Received 1,663 Likes on 928 Posts
Originally Posted by jaMezBOI
Was it the SE or the SE-R? SE-R will win stock vs stock

I have the same car as you and my advise is to get a CAI, UR pulley, and headers to help, then if you have money get a high flow cat, exhaust and 09 Intake Manifold.

My TL-S is fully bolted minus the 09 IM and I've beaten G35's and 350z's. But with all that work my car still isnt fast at all. Doubt Ill break 13's. If you want to go fast do a 6pd swap with a supercharger. Then you wont have any problems lol

Aside from handling characteristics and trim, there's really no substantial difference between the performance of the 3.5SE and the SE-R.
Old 03-18-2010, 07:15 AM
  #13  
Under construction
iTrader: (3)
 
alexSU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Charlotte NC
Age: 37
Posts: 5,007
Received 96 Likes on 68 Posts
Originally Posted by F23A4
Aside from handling characteristics and trim, there's really no substantial difference between the performance of the 3.5SE and the SE-R.
really? for some reason i thought the SE-R had more power and a faster 1/4 mile time
Old 03-18-2010, 09:12 AM
  #14  
philly flickin'
iTrader: (3)
 
jaMezBOI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: GTA, Canada
Age: 34
Posts: 895
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by F23A4
Aside from handling characteristics and trim, there's really no substantial difference between the performance of the 3.5SE and the SE-R.

really? I didn't know that. TBH I always thought it had more power.

edit: just looked it up. They gave the SE-R a mere 10HP more than the 3.5SE...what a waste

Last edited by jaMezBOI; 03-18-2010 at 09:15 AM.
Old 03-18-2010, 09:24 AM
  #15  
Under construction
iTrader: (3)
 
alexSU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Charlotte NC
Age: 37
Posts: 5,007
Received 96 Likes on 68 Posts
Originally Posted by jaMezBOI
really? I didn't know that. TBH I always thought it had more power.

edit: just looked it up. They gave the SE-R a mere 10HP more than the 3.5SE...what a waste
lol i was way too lazy to look that up yeah 10HP isn't enough
Old 03-18-2010, 10:39 AM
  #16  
Getting it Done
iTrader: (2)
 
ineedmyfixofacura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: West Cleveland, Ohio
Age: 32
Posts: 1,506
Received 25 Likes on 17 Posts
not surprised Nissans are quick, even with that being said I'd rather own an Acura lol.
Old 03-18-2010, 01:13 PM
  #17  
2003 Accord Coupe V6
iTrader: (2)
 
SatinSilverAV6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Oceanside, Ca
Age: 41
Posts: 1,825
Received 74 Likes on 58 Posts
Originally Posted by jaMezBOI
really? I didn't know that. TBH I always thought it had more power.

edit: just looked it up. They gave the SE-R a mere 10HP more than the 3.5SE...what a waste
the 10HP is negated anyway due to the extra weight the SE-R carries over the SE.
Old 03-18-2010, 02:48 PM
  #18  
16GS FSprt,03Max,12 335is
 
Monte TLS,MAX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Manhattan Beach, Ca / Dallas, Tx
Age: 50
Posts: 976
Received 7 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
Was he auto or manual?

The 03 3.5L Altima SE with the 4AT is a high 14 second car stock. Its basically a drivers race with a TL-S like yours. Now a 5MT Altima SE is a low-mid 14 second car stock and is faster than your TL-S. I am not suprised by the outcome.

I beat a stock 02 Altima 3.5L SE 4AT in my accord when I had intake.
4at or 5spd auto (it really made no difference in times), those 02-06 Altima SE's can be mid 14 sec cars as well. As at matter of fact alot of them are here at my local track stock and my old one in Cali. Stock for stock they tend to be a tad quicker than 03-07 AV6 auto's which stock here struggle to get into the 14's stock. When you beat that 02 was it burning it tires up at launch, which Nissan FWD 3.5 cars will do easily.
Old 03-18-2010, 02:52 PM
  #19  
16GS FSprt,03Max,12 335is
 
Monte TLS,MAX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Manhattan Beach, Ca / Dallas, Tx
Age: 50
Posts: 976
Received 7 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by F23A4
Aside from handling characteristics and trim, there's really no substantial difference between the performance of the 3.5SE and the SE-R.
100% correct!
Old 03-18-2010, 03:06 PM
  #20  
16GS FSprt,03Max,12 335is
 
Monte TLS,MAX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Manhattan Beach, Ca / Dallas, Tx
Age: 50
Posts: 976
Received 7 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by F23A4
Aside from handling characteristics and trim, there's really no substantial difference between the performance of the 3.5SE and the SE-R.
I remember back in the old days on here, when threads came up vs V6 Altimas etc....more times than not they would wonder how they lost to a 3.5 Alti in there TLS....we had more power. Then they realized that they have way more torque and were under rated in that dept.
Old 03-18-2010, 03:12 PM
  #21  
Intermediate
 
is19sEcondsSlow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: sick lake city
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Id like to put some 24's on an altima and lower it 5 inches then drive it straight off a cliff
Old 03-18-2010, 03:23 PM
  #22  
Senior Moderator
 
F23A4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Age: 56
Posts: 17,892
Received 1,663 Likes on 928 Posts
Originally Posted by is19sEcondsSlow
Id like to put some 24's on an altima and lower it 5 inches then drive it straight off a cliff
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Thank you for your input. It --along with future posts -- will be duly noted.
Old 03-18-2010, 03:33 PM
  #23  
The Sicilian
 
jspagna1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: CT
Age: 63
Posts: 1,632
Received 47 Likes on 43 Posts
Ya Nissan's are pretty fats cars. The 03 Altima SE came with 240 HP the 05 SER came with 260 HP. And a lot of toque.
I love taking my 03 Maxima and beating the heck out of 3Series BMW.s
TL's are just not made for speed if you ask me. They are for luxury and they look HOT. You have to modify the crap out of them to get any HP out of them.
Old 03-18-2010, 04:45 PM
  #24  
2003 Accord Coupe V6
iTrader: (2)
 
SatinSilverAV6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Oceanside, Ca
Age: 41
Posts: 1,825
Received 74 Likes on 58 Posts
Originally Posted by Monte TLS,MAX
4at or 5spd auto (it really made no difference in times), those 02-06 Altima SE's can be mid 14 sec cars as well. As at matter of fact alot of them are here at my local track stock and my old one in Cali. Stock for stock they tend to be a tad quicker than 03-07 AV6 auto's which stock here struggle to get into the 14's stock. When you beat that 02 was it burning it tires up at launch, which Nissan FWD 3.5 cars will do easily.
From my experience I have seen the 5AT get more consistant mid 14's with slightly higher trap speeds than the 4AT. I know that there has been some 14.6-14.7's with the 4AT but that doesn't seem to be as common for the 4AT as it does for the 5AT. That is just my experience though, I know you know what you are talking about when it comes to nissans.

For the Accord V6's the 03-05 Accord V6's are faster than the 06-07 accord V6's. The 06-07's struggle to get into the high 14's (especially F23A4's! which was the slowest 7th gen auto on record!! had to throw that in there ) But the 03-05's seem to hit high 14's more often stock. With just intake a on a 03-05 Accord V6 auto I have seen a 14.48 at best to 14.79 with traps in the 96-97MPH range. The 02 3.5L didn't burn up the tires. He actually got a great launch and took me off the line where my front bumper was at his passenger door handle but when I hit 2nd gear I started to pull back and by about 85MPH I had a 1 full car gap in between us.
Old 03-19-2010, 07:39 AM
  #25  
Senior Moderator
 
F23A4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Age: 56
Posts: 17,892
Received 1,663 Likes on 928 Posts
Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
From my experience I have seen the 5AT get more consistant mid 14's with slightly higher trap speeds than the 4AT. I know that there has been some 14.6-14.7's with the 4AT but that doesn't seem to be as common for the 4AT as it does for the 5AT. That is just my experience though, I know you know what you are talking about when it comes to nissans.

For the Accord V6's the 03-05 Accord V6's are faster than the 06-07 accord V6's. The 06-07's struggle to get into the high 14's (especially F23A4's former AV6 which was the slowest 7th gen auto on record!! had to throw that in there ) But the 03-05's seem to hit high 14's more often stock. With just intake a on a 03-05 Accord V6 auto I have seen a 14.48 at best to 14.79 with traps in the 96-97MPH range. The 02 3.5L didn't burn up the tires. He actually got a great launch and took me off the line where my front bumper was at his passenger door handle but when I hit 2nd gear I started to pull back and by about 85MPH I had a 1 full car gap in between us.
Pretty certain my 09 MDX can take my old AV6 from 0-90mph, and can hold it's own @ midrange. (Sidenote: In shopping a car for my daughter, I drove an 02 AV6 sedan and honestly, it didnt feel any slower than my 07......though I'm certain the add'l 44hp+ should rear its head @ triple digits. )

But in its defense, it yielded some GREAT fuel economy which is where it has the Atli V6 beat thoroughly.
Old 03-24-2010, 06:52 PM
  #26  
Banned
 
myTLgoesBWAAH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: bradford ontario
Age: 33
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i drove an 06 altima ser-r yesterday, i had to pic it up at a dealership and bring it to the shop. It was 6 speed holyyy sh.ttttttttt that ting is fast.. but not really a fan on how it drives. would prefer the tl over the altima anyday!
Old 03-25-2010, 04:11 PM
  #27  
Drifting
iTrader: (10)
 
'03TL-S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Texas
Age: 35
Posts: 2,279
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's not that fast.
Old 03-25-2010, 04:40 PM
  #28  
I got the Shifts
iTrader: (5)
 
phee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Age: 35
Posts: 14,203
Received 230 Likes on 163 Posts
lol. it aint slow. but its about on par with a 6 speed 2nd gen
Old 03-25-2010, 06:22 PM
  #29  
Banned
 
myTLgoesBWAAH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: bradford ontario
Age: 33
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by phee
lol. it aint slow. but its about on par with a 6 speed 2nd gen
2ND gen tl wit a 6 speed would keep up wit a 06 altima se-r?
Old 03-25-2010, 06:55 PM
  #30  
04Tl
iTrader: (1)
 
Yonkers914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Yonkers, New York
Age: 33
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
I dont see why not^^ but it has to be a type-s with the 6 speed swap. Just look at the cl type-s 6mt.
Old 03-25-2010, 07:36 PM
  #31  
Senior Moderator
 
F23A4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Age: 56
Posts: 17,892
Received 1,663 Likes on 928 Posts
Originally Posted by myTLgoesBWAAH
2ND gen tl wit a 6 speed would keep up wit a 06 altima se-r?
It's a driver's race. Unfortunately, it didn't occur to Acura to equip the TL with a 6MT until the 2004 model year. So the only ones out there that are 6MT are swaps.
Old 03-25-2010, 09:21 PM
  #32  
Banned
 
myTLgoesBWAAH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: bradford ontario
Age: 33
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeh i know u gotta swap it out with the cl-s motor and tranny and wat not, an yeh man cl-s are pretty damn fast! but i seen a video on youtube wit tls vs a se-r and the se-r won. not sur eif they were both auto or manual tho
Old 03-26-2010, 10:51 AM
  #33  
I got the Shifts
iTrader: (5)
 
phee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Age: 35
Posts: 14,203
Received 230 Likes on 163 Posts
Originally Posted by F23A4
It's a driver's race. Unfortunately, it didn't occur to Acura to equip the TL with a 6MT until the 2004 model year. So the only ones out there that are 6MT are swaps.
its very much a drivers race. mostly due to the weight difference between the two cars. pair the two cars with headers and exhausts, intake and the tl inches out
Old 03-26-2010, 11:18 AM
  #34  
Your Friendly Canadian
 
Aman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Age: 31
Posts: 17,431
Received 1,485 Likes on 1,049 Posts
Sounds like he's just a superior driver. And I think the Altima 3.5 is a bit lighter than a 2nd-gen TL-S, depending on transmission. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

That being said, I really hope you're not racing on the streets. I like cheap insurance, and I'm sure you do too. This isn't helping.
Old 03-26-2010, 12:18 PM
  #35  
Three Wheelin'
 
jeowen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: GSO, NC
Age: 43
Posts: 1,557
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
yea, the VQ's are solid, in your case, perhaps now is the time to invest in CAI, perhaps Exhaust, and sharpen up on your shift points ( where exactly to be when you shift) GL
Old 04-16-2010, 10:43 AM
  #36  
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
03blueTLtype-s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Huntley, IL
Age: 34
Posts: 84
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thanks for your input everybody im going to start saving money now and start putting parts into my car
Old 05-10-2010, 09:39 PM
  #37  
13.2@106mph G37 RWD Sedan
iTrader: (3)
 
kdawg8526's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Van. BC
Age: 35
Posts: 1,373
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
the altimas arent fast at all.. just with a intake and atlp exhaust i took out the altima ser auto
Old 05-11-2010, 11:30 AM
  #38  
2003 Accord Coupe V6
iTrader: (2)
 
SatinSilverAV6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Oceanside, Ca
Age: 41
Posts: 1,825
Received 74 Likes on 58 Posts
Originally Posted by kdawg8526
the altimas arent fast at all.. just with a intake and atlp exhaust i took out the altima ser auto
They actually are pretty quick. The altima SER auto can be a mid 14 second ride in the 1/4 mile stock. The 6MT SER and 5MT SE are both low 14 second cars at best stock and get much quicker with mods.
Old 05-11-2010, 01:10 PM
  #39  
13.2@106mph G37 RWD Sedan
iTrader: (3)
 
kdawg8526's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Van. BC
Age: 35
Posts: 1,373
Received 14 Likes on 14 Posts
oh yeah those manual se-r are really fast i want to try one lol
Old 05-11-2010, 03:16 PM
  #40  
Senior Moderator
 
F23A4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Age: 56
Posts: 17,892
Received 1,663 Likes on 928 Posts
Originally Posted by kdawg8526
oh yeah those manual se-r are really fast i want to try one lol
As indicated earlier, the SE-R 6MT is no quicker nor particularly faster than the 3.5SE 5MT. Running any MT Altima V6 should suffice for a good run.


Quick Reply: 03 tls vs 03 3.5 altima se



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:42 PM.