'01 S2000 vs Newer Camaro.
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'01 S2000 vs Newer Camaro.
Had a run in with one of the newer Camaros tonight. Black, V6, stick (I assume), and sitting on some 22's I think. To make it short and sweet we ran twice..
*My S2K is virtually stock with the exception of a 3" cat-back.. I don't know how much power it actually makes though in comparison to how much noise it makes.
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1) He was about a car length ahead and he wouldn't slow down to line up, so once he heard me to drop to 3rd he hit it too. I was at about ~65mph in 3rd gear and I managed to reel him in and pull a car length on him before shutting down at ~90mph.
2) We pulled up to a light and I told that I actually wanted to line up and give him another shot. 30mph in 1st gear, 3 honks and we're off! Almost immediately I start pulling and I shut down about 1.5-2 car lengths ahead after shifting into 3rd gear.
All in all, some decent runs. He gave me a thumbs up and went on his way and I did the same.
. Good to know that the little 4-banger can hang. 
- David.
*My S2K is virtually stock with the exception of a 3" cat-back.. I don't know how much power it actually makes though in comparison to how much noise it makes.
1) He was about a car length ahead and he wouldn't slow down to line up, so once he heard me to drop to 3rd he hit it too. I was at about ~65mph in 3rd gear and I managed to reel him in and pull a car length on him before shutting down at ~90mph.
2) We pulled up to a light and I told that I actually wanted to line up and give him another shot. 30mph in 1st gear, 3 honks and we're off! Almost immediately I start pulling and I shut down about 1.5-2 car lengths ahead after shifting into 3rd gear.
All in all, some decent runs. He gave me a thumbs up and went on his way and I did the same.
- David.
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I've heard mixed opinions on them.. even in stock rim (w/o the giant rims) I've read that they're pigs.

Idk though.. guess I'll just have to wait and find out when I run the next one.
Nice kills! Those 22's are probably slowing him down quite a bit. Still think the S2k would pull none the less. Anyway check out this vid of a V6 Camaro 6MT stock vs a 06 5AT 350Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLxnVANoJK0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLxnVANoJK0
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It's not really that. It's the fact that the 350Z Roadster is about 250lbs heavier than the hardtop plus the Z had a passenger. In stock form, a 5AT Roadster is good for 14.4-14.5s on average. That Z, especially with it's terribly slow start, would be lucky to crack a 15.0. A 6AT base Camaro is good for 14.5s. I'm not surprised by this race at all.
Not a decently driven hardtop Z. They don't need the extreme launch rpm like your S2000 needs. On paper, the Z should be fractionally quicker. In most driver's hands, the Z should be much quicker since it's not remotely has hard to launch effectively. From a roll, it would be close, but I think the Z is going to walk after 100mph.
It's not really that. It's the fact that the 350Z Roadster is about 250lbs heavier than the hardtop plus the Z had a passenger. In stock form, a 5AT Roadster is good for 14.4-14.5s on average. That Z, especially with it's terribly slow start, would be lucky to crack a 15.0. A 6AT base Camaro is good for 14.5s. I'm not surprised by this race at all.
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Not a decently driven hardtop Z. They don't need the extreme launch rpm like your S2000 needs. On paper, the Z should be fractionally quicker. In most driver's hands, the Z should be much quicker since it's not remotely has hard to launch effectively. From a roll, it would be close, but I think the Z is going to walk after 100mph.
I love Z's. I wanted one more than my S2000 actually. I'm just surprised that in 4 months of owning my S2K I haven't actually gotten to race a Z.
There are two different gearing options when it comes to V6 mustangs. The 3.31:1 axle ratio is the much quicker option vs the 2.73:1. I have seen high 13's stock with the 3.31 ratio 6AT and manual. Low-mid 14s with the 2.73's.
Watch out for the manual and auto. It will be a great drivers race. The TL 6MT can hold its own no doubt though.
True, but they have a bit more torque, a fatter powerband, and a live axle which lets them plant the tires quite well. The new V6 Stangs can move and with a couple very simple bolt-ons, even more so. Strap on a set of slicks to a bonestock 11'+ V6 6MT Stang and it should easily see mid 13s. Add a set of 4.1 gears, tuner, headers, and catback and you're looking at low 13s, possibly 12s.
Keep in mind Motor Trend got 13.7s@102mph out of a bonestock V6 6MT. Surely there will be owners with them that will see even quicker times on a nice track.
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True, but they have a bit more torque, a fatter powerband, and a live axle which lets them plant the tires quite well. The new V6 Stangs can move and with a couple very simple bolt-ons, even more so. Strap on a set of slicks to a bonestock 11'+ V6 6MT Stang and it should easily see mid 13s. Add a set of 4.1 gears, tuner, headers, and catback and you're looking at low 13s, possibly 12s.
Keep in mind Motor Trend got 13.7s@102mph out of a bonestock V6 6MT. Surely there will be owners with them that will see even quicker times on a nice track.
Keep in mind Motor Trend got 13.7s@102mph out of a bonestock V6 6MT. Surely there will be owners with them that will see even quicker times on a nice track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_psJn...eature=related
Another impressive V6 stang. He is running 2.73's with a 6MT and simple bolt-ons with tune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ4fO_BgIHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ4fO_BgIHY
And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSIx...eature=related
Those things are no joke with mods, but IMO, there's still something inherently wrong with buying a V6 pony car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSIx...eature=related
Those things are no joke with mods, but IMO, there's still something inherently wrong with buying a V6 pony car.
And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSIx...eature=related
Those things are no joke with mods, but IMO, there's still something inherently wrong with buying a V6 pony car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSIx...eature=related
Those things are no joke with mods, but IMO, there's still something inherently wrong with buying a V6 pony car.
On principle, I'd get one of the V8 variants if I were in the market for a Stang. But I give Ford props for finally creating a base Stang that actually causes one to question whether or not to opt for a V8. (I recall back when the updated Fox body -- circa 1987 -- had either a 225hp V8 GT/LX ('5.0') or an 88hp 4 cylinder LX.
...and it didn't get much better until the current generation.)
After flogging that 5.0 last month, I'm definitely toying with the idea of buying one after the Acura's paid off and then driving the Acura in the winter. I'll take a black/black GT Premium 6MT with Brembos, 3.73's, HID/security and comfort packages and the 19's thank you very much. It's a lot of car for $37k and change.
On principle, I'd get one of the V8 variants if I were in the market for a Stang. But I give Ford props for finally creating a base Stang that actually causes one to question whether or not to opt for a V8. (I recall back when the updated Fox body -- circa 1987 -- had either a 225hp V8 GT/LX ('5.0') or an 88hp 4 cylinder LX.
...and it didn't get much better until the current generation.)
I'm actually quite intrigued by the new V6. Sure, I love the 5.0. Freaking amazing motor with lots of flexibility and the same can be said for the V6. In terms of handling, you can get a v6 equipped with the GT suspension. We already know the new GT can handle exceptionally well and the Boss even more so. I can only imagine what a lighter (especially in nose) V6 with a proper suspension could do. The GT is a steal for the money, but the V6 probably even more so. For the money, I don't think there's a car out there for the same base price and potential. A close second would be the new WRX, but even then it's a few grand more, gets worse mpgs, has a questionable 5MT, and some possible issues with the ring lands. 1 year from now, hardly used 6MT V6 Stangs will be super cheap.
Yeah, I know, it's not a 5.0, but I'd image a v6 Stang could be the auto-x killer in it's class and could be quite the sleeper. Low 13s seems really easy to obtain which for me is plenty plenty fast for a dual purpose daily driver. I've had a souped V8 before. It was damn fun, but after a while, you realize there's only so often you can use it on the street without getting in major trouble.
Yeah, I know, it's not a 5.0, but I'd image a v6 Stang could be the auto-x killer in it's class and could be quite the sleeper. Low 13s seems really easy to obtain which for me is plenty plenty fast for a dual purpose daily driver. I've had a souped V8 before. It was damn fun, but after a while, you realize there's only so often you can use it on the street without getting in major trouble.
I priced out a base V6 Mustang online with the Performance package (GT Suspension and 3.31 gearing) 6MT and it was just over $24,000. That has to be the best bang for the buck out there!
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