lavo

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

this site has the 04 TL auto doin 0-60 in 6.3, 04 stick doin it in 6 secs and the A Spec doing it in 5.7 seconds...Are these times what you guys get roughly for the ones that test theirs?

Pretty quick imo, But how is the a spec faster if there is no engine mods? does that front lip give it extra aerodynamics where it makes it .3 seconds faster
jk

White Lightening

The A Spec should be the same. The only difference in the A Spec is the body kit, suspension. It has the same amount of power. I think people are getting comfuse between the A Spec and Type S. The Type S would probably do 5.7 sec.

SouthernBoy

In May, 2004, Car and Driver road tested an '04 manual A-Spec TL and managed the following times;

0 - 60, 5.6 seconds
quarter mile, 14.3 seconds at 99 MPH

I'm sure there were a number of factors such as the A-Spec tires being stickier, the driver knowing what he's doing, VSA turned off, air temps cool and dry, perfect launch, and knowing how and when to shift in a drag race.

These are the best reported times for a manual TL I have seen to date.. including those for the TL-S.

johnny--2k

I would not be surprised that an a-spec is quicker. If you think about it logically, the a-spec has a stiffer suspension, thus reducing squat under full acceleration, which causes the rear to drop down and the the front to lift off the ground a little and loose traction, vs the a-spec with much less squat and the front wheels staying more planted (but still lifting a little) to the ground to yield better traction.

I dont think its .3 seconds worth, but hey, every little bit helps!

anyways, just my

SouthernBoy

The problem with the TL, and any other FWD car, is the fact that front wheel drive is notorious for having poor traction. There's just no way around it for a streetable machine. FWD cars that have been set up for drag racing have major alterations to their suspension systems, tires, and weight transfer abilities in order to gain a measure of traction. But they'll never be a match for RWD traction capabilities.

lavo

theres a type S in the 04 model??

abouelmm

perfect driver, stiff suspension, 6 speed manual, perfect dry weather conditions= perfect launch and ill give it the .3 seconds differnce with no doubt..

SouthernBoy

People who have done little or no drag racing in their lives think that all you need to do is point the car, nail the throttle, and don't let off until you cross the traps. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Launching a RWD car is enough of a challenge to do right and remain consistent. Introduce a FWD platform and the level of difficulty rises considerably. I don't know if Car and Driver just got lucky that day with a great pass, or they just had a tester who flat knew what the hell to do. With as many cars that they test, I would tend to think it's the former, but maybe in reality a combination of both.

But think about this for a moment. Even a 0-60 run of 6 or 6.2 seconds in a luxury sedan, weighing over 3500 pounds, with a small 6-cylinder normally aspired engine is really quite amazing. Not at all shabby.

lavo

Thats what i say, this car (that i dont own) has an amazing interior, great options, and sharp looks...to add to it, it does 0-60 in around 6 seconds. 5.7 is all the better, 6.2 is still awesome being my car now does it in 7.4-7.7

A-TLvic882

More info

triggle

NO. 6MT or 5AT for '04, '05 and '06. The 6MT is not called a type-S
The A-Spec package or parts can be added to either model. A-Spec adds stiffer suspension, 18" wheels, lowers a bit, and body parts, front lip, rear lip, side skirts and a steering wheel.

6MT cars are equipped with Brembos as are the '07 Type-S

'07 gets the Type-S with a bigger engine and either 6MT or 5AT.

SouthernBoy

Ditto.

My '04 manual will have been mine 3 years this coming July. I have yet to grow tired or bored with it. I am constantly reminded of how much I enjoy it every time I take it out. Last week, I drove it to work on Monday. Then it sat in my garage for 3 days while I took the truck to work because I knew I was going to be working some late hours. Thursday evening, I could hardly stand it until I got up at 4:00am Friday morning to get ready for work and once again, drive my TL to work.

Crazy? No, just happy with my purchase.