I wonder will the new infinite q50 take rlx buyers? It is awd and has double screen inside and only $51,000 loaded and a spare tire. What is Acura doing pricing the awd rlx at $ 70,000??

 

We don't know how the AWD RLX will be priced and we won't know for several months yet.

 

It doesn't have as much technology and the vehicle is smaller. I don't see it as a direct competitor. The q50 should go up against the TLX.

Those who like Infiniti should find the Q50 appealing.

 

Yeah the q50 is the new g35/g37. For 50k its way overpriced. The q70 is rlx territory.

 

+1

 

I think there will be as much cross shopping of the Q50 with the RLX as there will be with the TLX and the RLX.

A fully loaded Q50 can be equipped with a hybrid AWD set up. It doesn't get ventilated seats but it gets just about everything else you'd want that the RLX offers.

I agree that a more likely matchup is the TLX but this just means Acura will have to put most of the RLX's features in the TLX to compete with the Q50. So this competition between the TLX and Q50 will compete with the RLX. At that point all the RLX has going for it is pretty much size. The Q50 is rear wheel drive or AWD, the RLX and TLX will be FWD with maybe an option for SH-AWD which is mostly front biased.

I wouldn't dismiss the impact the Q50 will have on the RLX any more than I'd dismiss the impact the TLX will have. In the end time will tell.

 

Actually has as much or more tech, collision prevention, blind spot intervention, adaptive cruise, rear obstacle warning, and so on, not to mention the ability to fine tune your driving experience (steering dynamic, etc). That said I do not see Q50 taking anything away from RLX as it is much smaller and more sporty. It may steal a few people that are technology driven from the M37, but even that I don't think will be a huge deal. It does raise the bar for that class of car so the TLX, 14 IS and 14 CTS need to compete head to head with the Q50. Also if the Q50 holds up against the BMW3 as well as the G did it will be hard to justify a BMW other than the badge.

 

I saw and sat in the Q50 at the NYC car show. I liked it a great deal. Look forward to driving it this summer. With all the technology and being AWD and a Hybrid, others will cross shop the 2 cars as well. I like my '07 RL, but I may ready for a different brand depending on what Acura decides to price the RLX Hybrid. Test drove the RLX FWD and it's nice, but need AWD in NJ.

I don't know there are so many BMW haters on the web. The 3 series is the standard that every new sporty sedan in the world that comes out is compared to. I've never driven a 4 door sedan that's more fun to drive than the 3 Series; we'll see how the Q50 compares.

 

Don't worry. There won't be any more overlap and confusion between the RLX and the TLX, like it has been before with the similar sized RL and TL sedans.

The RLX is the bigger sized sedan, and the TLX will be the smaller sized sedan.

Similarly, the Q70 is the bigger sedan, and the Q50 is the smaller sedan.

Also, similarly, the 5-series/E-class is the bigger sedan, and the 3-series/C-class is the smaller sedan.

Unless some people also cross-shop the Q70 with the Q50, or 5-series with the 3-series, or even E-class with the C-class, otherwise it doesn't seem logical to cross-shop between the RLX and the upcoming TLX.

 

I'm just thinking that while they may be different in size, neither are small cars. So it is not that much of a sacrifice to get the TLX vice the RLX since they may both be similarly equipped and the TLX is at a better price point. Same with the Q50. M sales really dipped this month, I suspect that might be due to buzz about the Q50.

 

If I go with another M that works in my favor. I have one offer of $6800 off MSRP for a M37 Sport. M has $3K worth of incentives

 

In many cases the haters (and I may have been one at the time) who have never driven the vehicle.

If you're just looking at value the BMWs will never win.

We bought a BMW X5 and I really enjoy driving that SUV (BMW calls them Sports Activity Vehicles).

You want to drive it aggressively and that's saying a lot for an SUV. Great responsiveness, good steering and flat cornering. Then again we came out of a Land Cruiser that, while a very competent vehicle, was the antithesis of a driver's vehicle, but it rivals and is as fun drive as many real sports sedans.

 

I have a BMW X3 and it drives better than my '07 RL- that's insane! BMW has the special sauce- engineering- to create driver's vehicles. As you can see from my user name I am a big fan of Acuras. I love my local Acura dealer and there's been nothing wrong with the 3 Acuras I've owned. They've been good, super reliable vehicles. I've also enjoyed discussing vehicles with all of you. In the sub $70K range I don't think there's a brand out there that creates better fun to drive vehicles than BMW . The handling of their cars is extraordinary. I'm waiting for the RLX AWD Hybrid to come out- I still may go that route. Like I said, I do love Acuras.

 

I actually like the Q50 better than the M, but that is a personal preference. Those are some nice incentives!

 

First the RLX is not a competitor to the Q50, it would go,up against the Infiniti M. The M35h hybrid loaded is around $67K so to add AWD seems not to far off for Acura to go for around $70K. What annoys me is not offering SH-AWD at all. If the RLX had SH-AWD in the Advance for around $62K I would likely buy one even though I am not loving the styling because I like Acura that much.

 

Maybe you should state, sedan. My Miata, by Mazda would beg to differ.

 

What's the deal with Infinity's new "Q" naming?
Seems more confusing now. They have the QX56 SUV and now Q sedans?

 

I just looked it up. This seems like risky re-naming. Not much differentiation

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"Infiniti is scrapping its old alphabet soup nomenclature made up of Gs, Ms, and FXs in favor of Q for sedans, coupes, and convertibles, and QX for SUVs"

 

Why is there a Q50 thread in this forum at all? It should be in Car Talk.

 

This is a picture I took out of a 2013 G37. With only 15k miles, it's interior was already falling apart. I use to own multiple Infiniti, and Nissan products and their products have gone to crap and not near as reliable as Acura/Honda.

 

My M37 is 35 months old with 41k miles and it is in excellent condition. Yes I think all makes have cut a few corners. I think th G interior in particular is not up to,par, but in the end it depends how they get used. If you take care of the car it should hold up. I went to look at a new M that had been on display at the Atlanta auto show and was shocked how a week of people getting in and out of the car at the show took its toll on the leather. My leather after 3 years and 40k miles looked almost new.

 

Reading the TL forums that car certainly has its issues as well. If i were the type that fretted about the potential for my car falling apart based on forums such as this the tl would be a no go.

For a brand going to crap consumers reports rated the g it's third best car, behind a BMW and tesla.

 

Here is my issue with Consumer Reports, they scoring and "recommended" cars have nothing to do with the reliability of a car. I equate it to something similar to any other review where they are basing their opinion on their short test/ownership of the vehicle. I use CR strictly to look at what their longer term stats based on reader feedback are. And even that I take with a grain of salt.

 

I take every single car mag review with a grain of salt as well as most posts on car forums, such as the one above.

CR, IMO, probably provides the most well rounded info. I rarely buy the same manufacturer twice in a row, but I'm looking forward to that q50 hybrid.