Lamborghini copies Acura's 3-motor system

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Oct 1, 2014 | 04:43 PM
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Lamborghini Asterion Makes 910 HP, Gets 56 MPG » AutoGuide.com News

According to the company, it’s built entirely of components and technology in their current toolbox. Yes, if they wanted to, they could release it today…

Yeah, right...
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Oct 2, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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This is typical for Honda. When they launched SHAWD it was poo poo'd by the press as superfluous. As soon as BMW, Porsche and SAAB started mimicking SHAWD with similar torque vectoring AWD systems you would have thought it was the greatest invention since the wheel was cast upon the universe. Honda and Acura never market well and as a result, often do not get credit.

Sport Hybrid technology with multiple systems working in concert to achieve not only more power with less efficiency loss, but also integrate systems to be more seamless and make typical hybrid drawbacks more moot.

Acura could have lead this market segment with the SH RLX. But they tripped over themselves with a pathetic and sloppy rollout and still timid about what is actually happening with this car. It will hopefully not tarnish the NSX rollout, but that too has past market patience for roll out inpact.

As a result I think the BMW i8 will take the spotlight defining to the market what Sport Hybrid configuration offer. BMW has the gravity to get market attention and it appears to be priced below the anticipated pricing of the NSX *ouch*.

Lexus is launching the AWD NX with the rear drive being electric motors. I think this a configuration we will see more and more where the combustion engine with or without hybrid integration supports the primary drive and the AWD is supported with additional electric motors providing on demand power and regeneration.

The multi engine /electric motor configurations have the ability to mask typical hybrid issues by blending power engagement along with new tranny engineering and electric accessories. The SH RLX has been the most sophisticated I have yet to experience, while also continuously and variably orchestrating regeneration and torque vectoring independently at each corner - on demand.

But the SH RLX will likely allow other brands to mimic, take credit and be acclaimed for this achievement.

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Oct 2, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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Fucking Honda!

stop wanting to be just mediocre.
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Oct 3, 2014 | 08:03 AM
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Quote: stop wanting to be just mediocre.
Honda are happy being mediocre but Acura should be the technology leader of the Honda Corporation.
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Oct 7, 2014 | 11:18 AM
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Quote: This is typical for Honda. When they launched SHAWD it was poo poo'd by the press as superfluous. As soon as BMW, Porsche and SAAB started mimicking SHAWD with similar torque vectoring AWD systems you would have thought it was the greatest invention since the wheel was cast upon the universe. Honda and Acura never market well and as a result, often do not get credit.

Sport Hybrid technology with multiple systems working in concert to achieve not only more power with less efficiency loss, but also integrate systems to be more seamless and make typical hybrid drawbacks more moot.

Acura could have lead this market segment with the SH RLX. But they tripped over themselves with a pathetic and sloppy rollout and still timid about what is actually happening with this car. It will hopefully not tarnish the NSX rollout, but that too has past market patience for roll out inpact.

As a result I think the BMW i8 will take the spotlight defining to the market what Sport Hybrid configuration offer. BMW has the gravity to get market attention and it appears to be priced below the anticipated pricing of the NSX *ouch*.

Lexus is launching the AWD NX with the rear drive being electric motors. I think this a configuration we will see more and more where the combustion engine with or without hybrid integration supports the primary drive and the AWD is supported with additional electric motors providing on demand power and regeneration.

The multi engine /electric motor configurations have the ability to mask typical hybrid issues by blending power engagement along with new tranny engineering and electric accessories. The SH RLX has been the most sophisticated I have yet to experience, while also continuously and variably orchestrating regeneration and torque vectoring independently at each corner - on demand.

But the SH RLX will likely allow other brands to mimic, take credit and be acclaimed for this achievement.

I don't know if Mitsu was the first, but the Evo VIII had a torque vectoring AWD system back in '03.

And doesn't the Porsche 918 have a similar hybrid motor/tranny set up? (Albeit for a ton more $$$$)
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Oct 7, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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^^^^ very good point...

And depending on the focus, arguably the 'first in class' can be slanted towards various products.

IMHO the EVO system was more sophisticated, but consider that it was a design for off-road rally. The Porsche system was a supercar derivative. Honda's application was targeted for a pedestrian application to a mainstream vehicle. I believe what made SHAWD unique was the RLs ability to over accelerate the outer rear wheel via a planetary gear and simulating a RWD yaw. (I believe this was only on the RL application and a lesser version appeared on the MDX and then TL).

I found this link explaining the variances or AWD and specifically torque vectoring (many use braking, as does Acura now).

Torque Vectoring and Active Differential

Concerning the blending of combustion engine, tranny and additional electric drive motors, again there may be other unique vehicles out there, but I think Acura is the first to push this into the pedestrian vehicle market. The SH RLX is the realization of the Honda Dual Note / Acura DNX concept....12 years in the making.

Acura DN-X Concept
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Oct 7, 2014 | 02:48 PM
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Good stuff Tampa! I'm proud to also have an opulent blue pearl RL parked outside my office window
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Oct 7, 2014 | 05:18 PM
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Quote: ...have an opulent blue pearl RL parked outside my office window
Damn! I am busted! I knew I should have used my drone that I stalk getakey with!

Now, can we talk about these pics I have of you before I release them on YouTube?
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Oct 8, 2014 | 07:17 PM
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Audi R8 is following the same path...

Link: Next Audi R8 to share hybrid tech with Lamborghini Asterion - Autoblog
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