Lane departure warning/over-react
#1
Suzuka Master
Thread Starter
Lane departure warning/over-react
This has happened a couple of times, most recently this morning on my way to work.
Driving on the freeway, no traffic around, I change lanes without using turn signal, I get the bright yellow alert in the MID about lane departure and the RDX hits the brakes hard, as if I am using the ACC and a car I am following slows in front of me. This is very disconcerting and scared the crap out of me! It doesn't do this every time, I have tried to repeat it and seems to happen when I least expect it. ... sigh
BTW: I usually signal when I change lanes, especially when there is traffic around me
Driving on the freeway, no traffic around, I change lanes without using turn signal, I get the bright yellow alert in the MID about lane departure and the RDX hits the brakes hard, as if I am using the ACC and a car I am following slows in front of me. This is very disconcerting and scared the crap out of me! It doesn't do this every time, I have tried to repeat it and seems to happen when I least expect it. ... sigh
BTW: I usually signal when I change lanes, especially when there is traffic around me
#4
Suzuka Master
Thread Starter
Intermittent issues are the worst.
#5
Burning Brakes
Rather than it being related to RDMS could it be something being misinterpreted by the CMBS applying the brakes? Lots of variables being considered by the two systems, both of which will apply the brakes if it's determined necessary.
#7
Pro
Are you 100% sure that the alert in the MID specifies a lane departure, or is it possible you are seeing the "BRAKE" message?. I don't know of any circumstance where a lane change should initiate braking. AFAIK, automatic braking is only part of the CMBS or ACC systems. Do you actually have LKAS and LDW turned on when this occurs?
I don't know if the 2019 system works any different than my 2016 system, but I have never experienced the CMBS system activating when I change lanes. It has however applied the brakes occasionally as I approach a curve which has a tree or utility pole straight ahead as I approach. I guess the system can see the pole but it doesn't know I will be turning before I hit the pole. The CMBS will also operate if the system sees a pedestrian (or similar shaped object) ahead of the vehicle.
By the way, I know that you usually signal turns when you know there is traffic around you, but what if there is a car in your blind spot that you don't know about. That is what the Blind Spot Information System (BSIS) is for, and it will only warn you of drivers in your blind spot when you use the turn signal.
I don't know if the 2019 system works any different than my 2016 system, but I have never experienced the CMBS system activating when I change lanes. It has however applied the brakes occasionally as I approach a curve which has a tree or utility pole straight ahead as I approach. I guess the system can see the pole but it doesn't know I will be turning before I hit the pole. The CMBS will also operate if the system sees a pedestrian (or similar shaped object) ahead of the vehicle.
By the way, I know that you usually signal turns when you know there is traffic around you, but what if there is a car in your blind spot that you don't know about. That is what the Blind Spot Information System (BSIS) is for, and it will only warn you of drivers in your blind spot when you use the turn signal.
Driving on the freeway, no traffic around, I change lanes without using turn signal, I get the bright yellow alert in the MID about lane departure and the RDX hits the brakes hard, as if I am using the ACC and a car I am following slows in front of me. This is very disconcerting and scared the crap out of me! It doesn't do this every time, I have tried to repeat it and seems to happen when I least expect it. ... sigh
BTW: I usually signal when I change lanes, especially when there is traffic around me
BTW: I usually signal when I change lanes, especially when there is traffic around me
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#8
Are you 100% sure that the alert in the MID specifies a lane departure, or is it possible you are seeing the "BRAKE" message?. I don't know of any circumstance where a lane change should initiate braking. AFAIK, automatic braking is only part of the CMBS or ACC systems. Do you actually have LKAS and LDW turned on when this occurs?
I don't know if the 2019 system works any different than my 2016 system, but I have never experienced the CMBS system activating when I change lanes. It has however applied the brakes occasionally as I approach a curve which has a tree or utility pole straight ahead as I approach. I guess the system can see the pole but it doesn't know I will be turning before I hit the pole. The CMBS will also operate if the system sees a pedestrian (or similar shaped object) ahead of the vehicle.
By the way, I know that you usually signal turns when you know there is traffic around you, but what if there is a car in your blind spot that you don't know about. That is what the Blind Spot Information System (BSIS) is for, and it will only warn you of drivers in your blind spot when you use the turn signal.
I don't know if the 2019 system works any different than my 2016 system, but I have never experienced the CMBS system activating when I change lanes. It has however applied the brakes occasionally as I approach a curve which has a tree or utility pole straight ahead as I approach. I guess the system can see the pole but it doesn't know I will be turning before I hit the pole. The CMBS will also operate if the system sees a pedestrian (or similar shaped object) ahead of the vehicle.
By the way, I know that you usually signal turns when you know there is traffic around you, but what if there is a car in your blind spot that you don't know about. That is what the Blind Spot Information System (BSIS) is for, and it will only warn you of drivers in your blind spot when you use the turn signal.
#9
Pro
True that the visual indicators work with or without the turn signals, but the audible indicator will not work unless the turn signal is activated.
If the OP (Stew4HD) does check the visual indicators before changing lanes, then good for him.
If I had the choice I would like to see the RDX's visual indicator built into the side view mirrors, rather than being located on the door panel inside of the vehicle as they are. The current position means that I have to look into the side view mirror and the interior panel at the same time, before changing lanes.
Because of this inconvenience, I am in the habit of always using my turn signals, This means that I can concentrate on just the mirrors, knowing that the audible indicator will alert me to what the visual indicator is showing me, without looking at it.
If the OP (Stew4HD) does check the visual indicators before changing lanes, then good for him.
If I had the choice I would like to see the RDX's visual indicator built into the side view mirrors, rather than being located on the door panel inside of the vehicle as they are. The current position means that I have to look into the side view mirror and the interior panel at the same time, before changing lanes.
Because of this inconvenience, I am in the habit of always using my turn signals, This means that I can concentrate on just the mirrors, knowing that the audible indicator will alert me to what the visual indicator is showing me, without looking at it.
#10
Suzuka Master
Thread Starter
True that the visual indicators work with or without the turn signals, but the audible indicator will not work unless the turn signal is activated.
If the OP (Stew4HD) does check the visual indicators before changing lanes, then good for him.
If I had the choice I would like to see the RDX's visual indicator built into the side view mirrors, rather than being located on the door panel inside of the vehicle as they are. The current position means that I have to look into the side view mirror and the interior panel at the same time, before changing lanes.
Because of this inconvenience, I am in the habit of always using my turn signals, This means that I can concentrate on just the mirrors, knowing that the audible indicator will alert me to what the visual indicator is showing me, without looking at it.
If the OP (Stew4HD) does check the visual indicators before changing lanes, then good for him.
If I had the choice I would like to see the RDX's visual indicator built into the side view mirrors, rather than being located on the door panel inside of the vehicle as they are. The current position means that I have to look into the side view mirror and the interior panel at the same time, before changing lanes.
Because of this inconvenience, I am in the habit of always using my turn signals, This means that I can concentrate on just the mirrors, knowing that the audible indicator will alert me to what the visual indicator is showing me, without looking at it.
#11
Pro
I had a look at the owners manual since my last post, and I discovered this. Did your situation occur while crossing a solid line?
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#13
Pro
The system only supplies a small amount of torque to move the steering wheel. Perhaps equivalent to what you could provide if you were steering with 1 finger. You can easily override this torque if you have 1 or 2 hands on the wheel. If you are getting close to the parked vehicle before changing lanes, there is a possibility of braking occurring due to CMBS. Also, as mentioned in my previous post, if you cross a solid line without signalling, braking may occur.
#14
Mine consistently applies brakes at the same exact place when traversing a "hump" in the road I frequently travel. It's startling but I'm used to it now. Never had a problem with braking during a lane change.
#15
True that the visual indicators work with or without the turn signals, but the audible indicator will not work unless the turn signal is activated.
If the OP (Stew4HD) does check the visual indicators before changing lanes, then good for him.
If I had the choice I would like to see the RDX's visual indicator built into the side view mirrors, rather than being located on the door panel inside of the vehicle as they are. The current position means that I have to look into the side view mirror and the interior panel at the same time, before changing lanes.
Because of this inconvenience, I am in the habit of always using my turn signals, This means that I can concentrate on just the mirrors, knowing that the audible indicator will alert me to what the visual indicator is showing me, without looking at it.
If the OP (Stew4HD) does check the visual indicators before changing lanes, then good for him.
If I had the choice I would like to see the RDX's visual indicator built into the side view mirrors, rather than being located on the door panel inside of the vehicle as they are. The current position means that I have to look into the side view mirror and the interior panel at the same time, before changing lanes.
Because of this inconvenience, I am in the habit of always using my turn signals, This means that I can concentrate on just the mirrors, knowing that the audible indicator will alert me to what the visual indicator is showing me, without looking at it.
#16
Pro
You probably drive like myself, where I check my mirrors first, and I will not signal a turn unless I am sure it is safe to do so. As a result I rarely hear the audible alert.
Last edited by RDX-Rick; 11-14-2018 at 04:22 PM.
#18
Advanced
I didn't even know that there was an audible alarm, probably because I always use my turn signals. I agree about the location of the blind spot indicator. It is very dim and you have to look for it or you won't notice it. I have had a few cars with the indicator on the mirror and that is a much better place for it.
I don't find them dim at all - maybe even too bright at night. I also prefer ithem inside on the pillars so that I can see them when the windows sometime get fogged over in inclement weather. I've driven a number of rental cars in winter conditions and their mirror indicators were not at all effective.
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#19
Burning Brakes
+1 on that. Illuminated on the pillar as they are the driver side can be seen in my peripheral vision without even shifting my gaze and the passenger side is just a quick glance. That said the mirrors can easily be adjusted so there are no blind spots so I really fail to see why anyone is having a snit over this unless they are intentionally setting the mirrors so they do have a blind spot and using that as a basis for bad mouthing the car.
#20
Poor system implementation...etc... Acura/Honda is lacking in this regard. I experienced the same problem with the dealer 'new' loaner... it is really dangerous under wet etc conditions.
An Engineering flaw.
An Engineering flaw.
#21
Azine Jabroni
This has happened a couple of times, most recently this morning on my way to work.
Driving on the freeway, no traffic around, I change lanes without using turn signal, I get the bright yellow alert in the MID about lane departure and the RDX hits the brakes hard, as if I am using the ACC and a car I am following slows in front of me. This is very disconcerting and scared the crap out of me! It doesn't do this every time, I have tried to repeat it and seems to happen when I least expect it. ... sigh
BTW: I usually signal when I change lanes, especially when there is traffic around me
Driving on the freeway, no traffic around, I change lanes without using turn signal, I get the bright yellow alert in the MID about lane departure and the RDX hits the brakes hard, as if I am using the ACC and a car I am following slows in front of me. This is very disconcerting and scared the crap out of me! It doesn't do this every time, I have tried to repeat it and seems to happen when I least expect it. ... sigh
BTW: I usually signal when I change lanes, especially when there is traffic around me
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