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Old 10-10-2018, 11:48 AM
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I also think most people don't give 2 shits about HQ audio. They are fine with lossy audio from whatever source is most convenient
^^Agree. This is the main reason SiriusXM still exists.
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Notice the album title is "Acura ELS". I wonder if any of the songs are 5.1?

"I was provided some ELS Studio 3D audio files on a USB stick that I played at max volume." - https://drivetofive.com/2018/08/09/d...h-awd-advance/

I'm headed to a media event next week and will ask the Acura reps about this.


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Old 10-12-2018, 02:31 PM
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Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly" was released on DVD-A (and SACD in Japan) with a 5.1 mix by Elliot Scheiner (ELS), so you can bet that USB stick has 5.1 surround files.
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Old 10-14-2018, 05:39 PM
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any tips on how to do this on a Mac?
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Old 10-20-2018, 11:20 PM
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Some of the concert DVD/Blu-ray music I converted have a lot of talking at the beginning of the song or long applauses at the end. What do you guys use to trim FLAC 5.1 files?
Does anyone do this? I tried Audacity but it does not save in multi-channel format.
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5.1 Conversion On A Mac ??

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any tips on how to do this on a Mac?
I have the same question. How can we convert the audio of a DVD performance using a Mac?
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Old 11-25-2018, 02:49 PM
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any tips on how to do this on a Mac?
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I have the same question. How can we convert the audio of a DVD performance using a Mac?
I don't use a Mac but this program supposedly works well I'm told (DVD Audio Explorer):

Download DVD Audio Extractor
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I don't use a Mac but this program supposedly works well I'm told (DVD Audio Explorer):

Download DVD Audio Extractor
I installed the program and set the output to 5.1 Audio FLAC with fixed bit rate of 48KHZ It created multiple
flac encoded files but my RDX system reports that it cannot play the selected file type. BTW, they do play on my iMAC using the "Quick Time Player" so they are not corrupt. Do I need to first go to a WAV file and then use a converter to get a playable FLAC surround sound? Not sure where I'm going wrong. Original DVD is Diana Krall Live In Paris. Screen shots showing info about the first output file created by this program are attached. Any help would be appreciated.




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Old 11-25-2018, 05:56 PM
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Try outputing to .wav files, then creating the .flac's with Foobar. It's very important that the .flac files are 24-48 with ZERO COMPRESSION. If they are not the RDX will not recognize them.
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Try outputing to .wav files, then creating the .flac's with Foobar. It's very important that the .flac files are 24-48 with ZERO COMPRESSION. If they are not the RDX will not recognize them.
I think I'm making progress. I set the output to 6 ch wav files (5.1) and the RDX plays them. I believe that it is playing all six channels because there is no difference in the sound if I turn off the option for "surround sound simulation" whereas a music CD that is ripped to mp3 definitely has reverb added with the "surround sound simulation" turned on. The wav files are quite large at about 300MB/song !! If I convert to FLAC with "zero compression" will the file size get smaller? That would be the only reason to do it, right?

I don't think foobar is available for the iMac but I'll check.

Really appreciate the help.
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I think I'm making progress. I set the output to 6 ch wav files (5.1) and the RDX plays them. I believe that it is playing all six channels because there is no difference in the sound if I turn off the option for "surround sound simulation" whereas a music CD that is ripped to mp3 definitely has reverb added with the "surround sound simulation" turned on. The wav files are quite large at about 300MB/song !! If I convert to FLAC with "zero compression" will the file size get smaller? That would be the only reason to do it, right?

I don't think foobar is available for the iMac but I'll check.

Really appreciate the help.
https://www.foobar2000.org/mac


24-48 5.1 wav files will play fine! However, you cannot tag them and have that work. Tagging allows you to put the info with each track, Album Name, Song Title, Artist, and also a picture of the album. To use tagging, you need to have .flac files. That would be the primary reason for using .flac, and I believe that a .flac file would be smaller than a .wav file.

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24-48 5.1 wav files will play fine! However, you cannot tag them and have that work. Tagging allows you to put the info with each track, Album Name, Song Title, Artist, and also a picture of the album. To use tagging, you need to have .flac files. That would be the primary reason for using .flac, and I believe that a .flac file would be smaller than a .wav file.

I understand. I just finished tagging all my 2ch mp3 encoded files using the "Metadatics" app for the iMac. For Apple users I recommend this program which will search the web, add tags and artwork to most of your music. It also allows you to manually add tags if it cannot find them on the web.

My problem now is that I haven't been able to find a converter for the iMac that will convert my 5.1 wav files to 5.1 flac files. If anyone knows what program I could use to do this it would be greatly appreciated since I only have iOS and not windows.
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Old 11-25-2018, 09:15 PM
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Foobar will convert .wav to zero compression .flac, see the link in my post above.
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Originally Posted by oblio98 View Post
Foobar will convert .wav to zero compression .flac, see the link in my post above.
Unfortunately Foobar for Mac installation does not work. I attached a screenshot after opening. I was able to add a track to the playlist but there are no menus for doing anything with it !! I don't think the mac version is ready for prime time so I am still searching for a converter that will handle 5.1 wav to 5.1 FLAC on the iMac platform. Does anyone have experience with a converter that works on the Mac??


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No. HDTracks, for some idiotic reason, will not sell 5.1 downloads. It's a shame because there is a great version of that album in 5.1 mixed by Elliott Scheiner himself! If you download the HDTracks HiRez files they will play in the car, but they will be only stereo. They'll sound pretty good, because they are HiRez (more audio info than a CD), but they'll be stereo - not 5.1.
Oblio98 do you know if you can purchase the ELS Demonstration Disc? I have looked and cannot find it anywhere?

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Old 11-26-2018, 05:22 PM
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Unfortunately Foobar for Mac installation does not work. I attached a screenshot after opening. I was able to add a track to the playlist but there are no menus for doing anything with it !! I don't think the mac version is ready for prime time so I am still searching for a converter that will handle 5.1 wav to 5.1 FLAC on the iMac platform. Does anyone have experience with a converter that works on the Mac??



Bummer. If you can't right-click the entry in the right screen and get a pop-up menu that shows CONVERT, then the Mac Foobar is really limited.
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Oblio98 do you know if you can purchase the ELS Demonstration Disc? I have looked and cannot find it anywhere?

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You can find them on eBay from time to time. Acura dealers no longer have them and they were never sold anywhere.
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You can find them on eBay from time to time. Acura dealers no longer have them and they were never sold anywhere.
Oblio98 which format should I use on my USB Stick? Fat32 or exFat ?
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Check with your local acura dealer and see if they kept a copy or two.
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Originally Posted by acelow View Post
Check with your local acura dealer and see if they kept a copy or two.
Not a soul at my local Acura dealer even knew who Elliot Scheiner was until I bought my RDX. I taught a few salespeople and the general manager a lot about the RDX that day. That's sad.
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Oblio98 which format should I use on my USB Stick? Fat32 or exFat ?
Both will work.

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WAV file not read

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Try outputing to .wav files, then creating the .flac's with Foobar. It's very important that the .flac files are 24-48 with ZERO COMPRESSION. If they are not the RDX will not recognize them.
oblio98,
First thank you for taking the time to post your process to take advantage of our DVD-A discs!

I am using a Mac and converted a DVD-A disc using DVD Audio Extractor. Here is a screenshot of the application with formatting choices and a snapshot of the finished WAV file info. The USB drive with the file on it (the only file on the drive) will not play in the RDX. Any thoughts? Cazman got his to work not sure why mine doesn't.


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Can you use 48Khz sample rate? From what I have seen 48/24 are the magic numbers
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Hmm. Not sure. Stew might be right, but I seem to recall that 44.1 was OK, it was 96kHz was an issue. From what you are showing us, it looks like it should work.

If it's not working try converting it to a zero compression .flac file. Not sure how you do that on a MAC, but I am sure there must be a way to do so. The MAC's are known for their ability to create and modify music files.
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So after a process of elimination, I was able to determine that the USB drive was creating the error. I was using a PNY 3.0 USB drive and had formatted it with the Mac Disk Utility. When I switched to a SanDisk 3.0 USB drive the ripped WAV files worked fine. I am using DVD Audio Extractor to create the WAV files from my DVD-A discs. Thanks again the for the feedback and guidance. The sound quality is really awesome!
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I first got all of this working on the PC to build my 5.1 Flac collections from Blueray and have since moved over to a mac. I can confirm the following will play in our RDX
1. Internal Blueray drive mounts inside of the NexStar DX USB 3.0 enclosure - $41.00 Amazon
2. MakeMKV rips the audio
3. To audio converter by Amvidia
4. If when in step #2 you get a single MKV file you can look for a cue sheet @ https://www.regeert.nl/cuesheet/?id=misc/af11db0e or google "cuesheet heaven"
5. Tag the music with Metadatics for mac
I put all of this on the Samsung MUF-128AB/AM FIT Plus 128GB - 300MB/s USB 3.1 Flash Drive - $25 @ Amazon. Its fast, small and works flawlessly.

If anyone has a suggestion for a Mac based MKV chapter splitter to eliminate the cue sheet option please let me know.

Thanks,
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I can't get my optical/CD drive to recognize either a DVD or a Blu-Ray. I must have the wrong kind of external drive. I reads music CDs just fine. I trued a couple of different Blu-Ray players using HDMI cable and nothing is recognized by my MacBookPro. So, what kind of external drive to I need that will be "seen" by my Mac?
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Thanks!

Thanks so much! I have almost daily delivery from Amazon at our house, so I will try this one. I know all of the effort will be worth it!
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