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Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly" was released on DVD-A (and SACD in Japan) with a 5.1 mix by Elliot Scheiner (ELS), so you can bet that USB stick has 5.1 surround files.
Some of the concert DVD/Blu-ray music I converted have a lot of talking at the beginning of the song or long applauses at the end. What do you guys use to trim FLAC 5.1 files?
Does anyone do this? I tried Audacity but it does not save in multi-channel format.
I installed the program and set the output to 5.1 Audio FLAC with fixed bit rate of 48KHZ It created multiple
flac encoded files but my RDX system reports that it cannot play the selected file type. BTW, they do play on my iMAC using the "Quick Time Player" so they are not corrupt. Do I need to first go to a WAV file and then use a converter to get a playable FLAC surround sound? Not sure where I'm going wrong. Original DVD is Diana Krall Live In Paris. Screen shots showing info about the first output file created by this program are attached. Any help would be appreciated.
Try outputing to .wav files, then creating the .flac's with Foobar. It's very important that the .flac files are 24-48 with ZERO COMPRESSION. If they are not the RDX will not recognize them.
Try outputing to .wav files, then creating the .flac's with Foobar. It's very important that the .flac files are 24-48 with ZERO COMPRESSION. If they are not the RDX will not recognize them.
I think I'm making progress. I set the output to 6 ch wav files (5.1) and the RDX plays them. I believe that it is playing all six channels because there is no difference in the sound if I turn off the option for "surround sound simulation" whereas a music CD that is ripped to mp3 definitely has reverb added with the "surround sound simulation" turned on. The wav files are quite large at about 300MB/song !! If I convert to FLAC with "zero compression" will the file size get smaller? That would be the only reason to do it, right?
I don't think foobar is available for the iMac but I'll check.
I think I'm making progress. I set the output to 6 ch wav files (5.1) and the RDX plays them. I believe that it is playing all six channels because there is no difference in the sound if I turn off the option for "surround sound simulation" whereas a music CD that is ripped to mp3 definitely has reverb added with the "surround sound simulation" turned on. The wav files are quite large at about 300MB/song !! If I convert to FLAC with "zero compression" will the file size get smaller? That would be the only reason to do it, right?
I don't think foobar is available for the iMac but I'll check.
24-48 5.1 wav files will play fine! However, you cannot tag them and have that work. Tagging allows you to put the info with each track, Album Name, Song Title, Artist, and also a picture of the album. To use tagging, you need to have .flac files. That would be the primary reason for using .flac, and I believe that a .flac file would be smaller than a .wav file.
24-48 5.1 wav files will play fine! However, you cannot tag them and have that work. Tagging allows you to put the info with each track, Album Name, Song Title, Artist, and also a picture of the album. To use tagging, you need to have .flac files. That would be the primary reason for using .flac, and I believe that a .flac file would be smaller than a .wav file.
I understand. I just finished tagging all my 2ch mp3 encoded files using the "Metadatics" app for the iMac. For Apple users I recommend this program which will search the web, add tags and artwork to most of your music. It also allows you to manually add tags if it cannot find them on the web.
My problem now is that I haven't been able to find a converter for the iMac that will convert my 5.1 wav files to 5.1 flac files. If anyone knows what program I could use to do this it would be greatly appreciated since I only have iOS and not windows.
Foobar will convert .wav to zero compression .flac, see the link in my post above.
Unfortunately Foobar for Mac installation does not work. I attached a screenshot after opening. I was able to add a track to the playlist but there are no menus for doing anything with it !! I don't think the mac version is ready for prime time so I am still searching for a converter that will handle 5.1 wav to 5.1 FLAC on the iMac platform. Does anyone have experience with a converter that works on the Mac??
No. HDTracks, for some idiotic reason, will not sell 5.1 downloads. It's a shame because there is a great version of that album in 5.1 mixed by Elliott Scheiner himself! If you download the HDTracks HiRez files they will play in the car, but they will be only stereo. They'll sound pretty good, because they are HiRez (more audio info than a CD), but they'll be stereo - not 5.1.
Oblio98 do you know if you can purchase the ELS Demonstration Disc? I have looked and cannot find it anywhere?
Unfortunately Foobar for Mac installation does not work. I attached a screenshot after opening. I was able to add a track to the playlist but there are no menus for doing anything with it !! I don't think the mac version is ready for prime time so I am still searching for a converter that will handle 5.1 wav to 5.1 FLAC on the iMac platform. Does anyone have experience with a converter that works on the Mac??
Bummer. If you can't right-click the entry in the right screen and get a pop-up menu that shows CONVERT, then the Mac Foobar is really limited.
Check with your local acura dealer and see if they kept a copy or two.
Not a soul at my local Acura dealer even knew who Elliot Scheiner was until I bought my RDX. I taught a few salespeople and the general manager a lot about the RDX that day. That's sad.
Try outputing to .wav files, then creating the .flac's with Foobar. It's very important that the .flac files are 24-48 with ZERO COMPRESSION. If they are not the RDX will not recognize them.
oblio98,
First thank you for taking the time to post your process to take advantage of our DVD-A discs!
I am using a Mac and converted a DVD-A disc using DVD Audio Extractor. Here is a screenshot of the application with formatting choices and a snapshot of the finished WAV file info. The USB drive with the file on it (the only file on the drive) will not play in the RDX. Any thoughts? Cazman got his to work not sure why mine doesn't.
Hmm. Not sure. Stew might be right, but I seem to recall that 44.1 was OK, it was 96kHz was an issue. From what you are showing us, it looks like it should work.
If it's not working try converting it to a zero compression .flac file. Not sure how you do that on a MAC, but I am sure there must be a way to do so. The MAC's are known for their ability to create and modify music files.
So after a process of elimination, I was able to determine that the USB drive was creating the error. I was using a PNY 3.0 USB drive and had formatted it with the Mac Disk Utility. When I switched to a SanDisk 3.0 USB drive the ripped WAV files worked fine. I am using DVD Audio Extractor to create the WAV files from my DVD-A discs. Thanks again the for the feedback and guidance. The sound quality is really awesome!
I first got all of this working on the PC to build my 5.1 Flac collections from Blueray and have since moved over to a mac. I can confirm the following will play in our RDX
1. Internal Blueray drive mounts inside of the NexStar DX USB 3.0 enclosure - $41.00 Amazon
2. MakeMKV rips the audio
3. To audio converter by Amvidia
4. If when in step #2 you get a single MKV file you can look for a cue sheet @ https://www.regeert.nl/cuesheet/?id=misc/af11db0e or google "cuesheet heaven"
5. Tag the music with Metadatics for mac
I put all of this on the Samsung MUF-128AB/AM FIT Plus 128GB - 300MB/s USB 3.1 Flash Drive - $25 @ Amazon. Its fast, small and works flawlessly.
If anyone has a suggestion for a Mac based MKV chapter splitter to eliminate the cue sheet option please let me know.
I can't get my optical/CD drive to recognize either a DVD or a Blu-Ray. I must have the wrong kind of external drive. I reads music CDs just fine. I trued a couple of different Blu-Ray players using HDMI cable and nothing is recognized by my MacBookPro. So, what kind of external drive to I need that will be "seen" by my Mac?
So, I was thinking about buying a 2017 Acura TLX. Does anyone know if the this method of encoding 5.1 Flac will work on older models or just the 2019 models?
The outlined method converting these files is simple enough. I just want to make sure the 2017 models will play the 5.1 Flac from a flashdrive.
Thanks much for any help you may be able to provide.
So, I was thinking about buying a 2017 Acura TLX. Does anyone know if the this method of encoding 5.1 Flac will work on older models or just the 2019 models?
The outlined method converting these files is simple enough. I just want to make sure the 2017 models will play the 5.1 Flac from a flashdrive.
Thanks much for any help you may be able to provide.
NO. The 2017 will not play 5.1 flac files. It still has a disc player. The only way to get 5.1 in the 2017 is to use DTS encoded CDs. This can be done but it's a whole different beast. Quite a bit more involved.
BTW - The USB method still only works in the 2019/2020 RDX. I do not believe the ELS 3D system has been put into any other Acura model at this time.
(Someone correct me if I'm wrong)
NO. The 2017 will not play 5.1 flac files. It still has a disc player. The only way to get 5.1 in the 2017 is to use DTS encoded CDs. This can be done but it's a whole different beast. Quite a bit more involved.
BTW - The USB method still only works in the 2019/2020 RDX. I do not believe the ELS 3D system has been put into any other Acura model at this time.
(Someone correct me if I'm wrong)
Thank you very much. It gives me something to think about in the Acura line of cars. Right now it's a toss up between Acura and the Hyundai with the 17 speaker Lexicon system. Both sound great! I'm not sure which way to go. Thanks!
Thank you very much. It gives me something to think about in the Acura line of cars. Right now it's a toss up between Acura and the Hyundai with the 17 speaker Lexicon system. Both sound great! I'm not sure which way to go. Thanks!
In my humble opinion, and only my opinion, the choice of vehicles is much more important than which one has the best stereo.
In my humble opinion, and only my opinion, the choice of vehicles is much more important than which one has the best stereo.
Well, I suppose it all depends on one's priorities. I'm clocking in no more than 8,000 miles a year on average. I drive test-drive these vehicles, new and pre-owned, and everything in this price range all drives roughly the same. Give or take the roughly equivalent options, most of which I care little about when it comes to a camera that views my car from above, or a touchpad in the console to wiggle my way around a menu, or whatever, etc. Then it becomes primarily a matter of of sound; as an audiophile my home 2-channel system cost more than double the price of many of these pre-owned cars, yet since I don't have 5.1 in my home (nor do I want it), the novelty becomes "How can I get a great system in a car when I'm driving, or even sitting in the driveway listening to 5.1 audio, as I'm going to have to get a new car anyway, since my 16-year old son will inherit my low-mileage car when he decides to start driving."
You see? Very simple. I became enamored with the proposition that Acura has models with the car's 5.1 system tuned for you. That means there's no guesswork to customizing your own in-car system like we did in the '80s. That's the luxury/convenience I'm looking for, otherwise I would be content with manually rolling down my windows and adjusting my seat via a bar below the cushions. Oh, and built in navigation is nice. Keymaps were a pain the ass.
Well, I supposeit all depends on one's priorities. I'm clocking in no more than 8,000 miles a year on average. I drive test-drive these vehicles, new and pre-owned, and everything in this price range all drives roughly the same. Give or take the roughly equivalent options, most of which I care little about when it comes to a camera that views my car from above, or a touchpad in the console to wiggle my way around a menu, or whatever, etc. Then it becomes primarily a matter of of sound; as an audiophile my home 2-channel system cost more than double the price of many of these pre-owned cars, yet since I don't have 5.1 in my home (nor do I want it), the novelty becomes "How can I get a great system in a car when I'm driving, or even sitting in the driveway listening to 5.1 audio, as I'm going to have to get a new car anyway, since my 16-year old son will inherit my low-mileage car when he decides to start driving."
You see? Very simple. I became enamored with the proposition that Acura has models with the car's 5.1 system tuned for you. That means there's no guesswork to customizing your own in-car system like we did in the '80s. That's the luxury/convenience I'm looking for, otherwise I would be content with manually rolling down my windows and adjusting my seat via a bar below the cushions. Oh, and built in navigation is nice. Keymaps were a pain the ass.
Agree, and disagree.
"priorities": agree
"everything in this price range all drives roughly the same": Disagree
Surround view camera: Agree. This has become a "we must offer this" from manufacturer's viewpoint, and is mostly a useless feature, becoming necessary to have on the feature list to be considered competitive. (my opinion)
Hands free tailgate? (throwing this in for reference) I thought this was a silly gimmick until I had my first SUV with this feature, now it is a "requirement" for me...Priorities!
It's a real good thing the we all have choices!
Welcome to the forum, by the way. Great group of folks here!
OK folks, I need your help. Some of the albums I have purchased are in DVD format. The earlier ones I bought were Blu-Tooth. I had no problems getting my FLAC files made from BT masters to play in my car but when my source is DVD, I get an error message that this file cannot be played on this system.
I don’t have my laptop with me on our weekend getaway, so I don’t know the name of the program I am using on my MAC to convert the files, but I set it up the same as the BT but instead designate DVD. Any ideas why my DVD files won’t play?
I have a few audio discs including the Beatles Abbey Road which is in 7.1. I've done the conversion using Flac lossless but they're still not playing. Do I have to downsample to 5.1, and if so how do you do that?
I have a few audio discs including the Beatles Abbey Road which is in 7.1. I've done the conversion using Flac lossless but they're still not playing. Do I have to downsample to 5.1, and if so how do you do that?
cheers,
Alan
depends on the s/w you are using to rip. read a tutorial or search in the help of the product you are using. cannot answer if you have to downmix.
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