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Old Sep 7, 2023 | 11:28 PM
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ZDX video

New video on the ZDX interior and exterior and specs.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6-TQAHw1vd4

I’m bummed to find that it is closer in length to the MDX. I thought it would be closer in size to the RDX.
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 01:24 AM
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I obviously knew this was a joint venture with GM but my God all I see is GM when I look at this thing. Why didn't Acura just wait and make their own with Honda.
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 01:33 AM
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The ZDX is definitely not on my wishlist.

If I was forced to buy electric I’d buy the model y because it has among the best seats, the best mpge in its class, and among the best range, not to mention it is the best value in its class.

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=alts&year=2023&vtype=Electri c&srchtyp=yearAfv&pageno=1


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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RDX10
I obviously knew this was a joint venture with GM but my God all I see is GM when I look at this thing. Why didn't Acura just wait and make their own with Honda.
I’m trying really hard to believe the ZDX is just a desperate marketing ploy that isn’t representative of the future or Acura. All eyes are on whatever they do next with the RDX.
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RDX10
I obviously knew this was a joint venture with GM but my God all I see is GM when I look at this thing. Why didn't Acura just wait and make their own with Honda.
Why didn't they wait? My opinion: the same reason many people make questionable decisions ... Fear of Missing Out. I believe FOMO was behind Toyota's launch of the half-baked bZ4X as well (and also behind some consumer EV purchases). In fairness, I'm sure the brands had loyalists screaming for an EV. But now that the EV market is cooling, both might ultimately regret their actions. The Prologue likely would have been sufficient if Honda felt compelled to offer something as quickly as possible.
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 01:51 PM
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Why didn't they wait? My opinion: the same reason many people make questionable decisions ... Fear of Missing Out. I believe FOMO was behind Toyota's launch of the half-baked bZ4X as well (and also behind some consumer EV purchases). In fairness, I'm sure the brands had loyalists screaming for an EV. But now that the EV market is cooling, both might ultimately regret their actions. The Prologue likely would have been sufficient if Honda felt compelled to offer something as quickly as possible.
Depends on where you live. At least where I am EV adoption is accelerating. Most popular is Tesla Y and 3 but also seeing Bolt and some Hyundai and Kia models. ID.4 is relatively rare. Don’t see bZ4X or RZ. RZ flopped so bad that dealer who charges $3k markup on NX/RX 350h is offering RZ at $3.3k incentive! No markup on NX 450h+ or RX 500h so those seem to be flops too.

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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 02:00 PM
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After looking at the Prologue, it looks like the ZDX interior is almost identical. The Prologue exterior looks better. Who will buy the ZDX?
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 02:38 PM
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Ugh. That looks hideous inside and out.
If I don't get an RDX I am going to take a long hard look at the upcoming Mazda CX-70. I like the CX-5 but its too small...CX-90 is too large...

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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
Depends on where you live. At least where I am EV adoption is accelerating. Most popular is Tesla Y and 3 but also seeing Bolt and some Hyundai and Kia models. ID.4 is relatively rare. Don’t see bZ4X or RZ. RZ flopped so bad that dealer who charges $3k markup on NX/RX 350h is offering RZ at $3.3k incentive! No markup on NX 450h+ or RX 500h so those seem to be flops too.
Poor choice of words on my part. EV sales are still increasing, but with an influx of new models, the supply-demand ratio has changed dramatically. There are still some models with a waiting list (e.g. Lyriq) due to production issues, but generally speaking there are plenty of EV's available now. Instead of $5k or $10k ADM's, some are even selling below MSRP.
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 03:15 PM
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Poor choice of words on my part. EV sales are still increasing, but with an influx of new models, the supply-demand ratio has changed dramatically. There are still some models with a waiting list (e.g. Lyriq) due to production issues, but generally speaking there are plenty of EV's available now. Instead of $5k or $10k ADM's, some are even selling below MSRP.
There are some states where it’s declining.
Across Michigan, Iowa, Kansas, Arkansas, Mississippi, Wyoming, Louisiana, South Dakota, West Virginia, and North Dakota, fewer buyers adopted EVs in the first half of 2023 compared to 2022.”
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...e-gap-growing/


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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
There are some states where it’s declining.
Across Michigan, Iowa, Kansas, Arkansas, Mississippi, Wyoming, Louisiana, South Dakota, West Virginia, and North Dakota, fewer buyers adopted EVs in the first half of 2023 compared to 2022.”
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...e-gap-growing/
As I commented on CD's site, manufacturers are partly to blame for that. I can't buy most Hyundai or Genesis EV's in Michigan because they simply don't sell them here yet. Plus Michigan law didn't allow direct Tesla sales until recently. Most shoppers won't consider a model they have to work too hard to get - especially if servicing it is going to be a hassle.
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Old Sep 8, 2023 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by anoop
After looking at the Prologue, it looks like the ZDX interior is almost identical. The Prologue exterior looks better. Who will buy the ZDX?
Humongous Acura fanboys
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jmhumr
I’m trying really hard to believe the ZDX is just a desperate marketing ploy that isn’t representative of the future or Acura. All eyes are on whatever they do next with the RDX.
This has to be it, but also why? Like I don't have a ton of confidence in GM products and if this thing ends up sucking it's going to hurt Acura more than help them.

Originally Posted by HotRodW
Why didn't they wait? My opinion: the same reason many people make questionable decisions ... Fear of Missing Out. I believe FOMO was behind Toyota's launch of the half-baked bZ4X as well (and also behind some consumer EV purchases). In fairness, I'm sure the brands had loyalists screaming for an EV. But now that the EV market is cooling, both might ultimately regret their actions. The Prologue likely would have been sufficient if Honda felt compelled to offer something as quickly as possible.
They're talking about jumping into full EV's with both legs. I don't think they know what the hell they're doing to be honest.

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Humongous Acura fanboys
lol I feel like the Acura fanboys are going to see through the Acura skin to the GM bones though.
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RDX10
lol I feel like the Acura fanboys are going to see through the Acura skin to the GM bones though.
Yeah but they'll still find a way to rationalize how this is the best car ever and how Acura is on fire. Look no further than the sunshine pumping in https://acurazine.com/forums/zdx-326...-23-a-1003909/

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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
Yeah but they'll still find a way to rationalize how this is the best car ever and how Acura is on fire. Look no further than the sunshine pumping in https://acurazine.com/forums/zdx-326...-23-a-1003909/
Lmao he really gets under your skin eh? 🤣🤣🤣
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RDX10
Lmao he really gets under your skin eh? 🤣🤣🤣
Ha, I guess we need a dedicated thread for a duel.
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RDX10
Lmao he really gets under your skin eh? 🤣🤣🤣
It'd be better for the forum if he wasn't so passive-aggressive w/members sometimes.
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Old Sep 9, 2023 | 10:13 PM
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Ha, I guess we need a dedicated thread for a duel.
Lmao I think so! Acurazine battle royale!

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It'd be better for the forum if he wasn't so passive-aggressive w/members sometimes.
Honestly I don't mind him. He's entitled to his opinion like we are and he's free to say or feel however he wants to. I've never had any issues with him whatsoever so maybe I see it differently but I usually just ignore forum members who I don't like lol.
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RDX10
Lmao he really gets under your skin eh? 🤣🤣🤣
It's hard to miss what amounts to an (unpaid) shill for Acura. The fake friendliness and passive agressiveness is the cherry on top.
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Originally Posted by RDX10
Lmao I think so! Acurazine battle royale!



Honestly I don't mind him. He's entitled to his opinion like we are and he's free to say or feel however he wants to. I've never had any issues with him whatsoever so maybe I see it differently but I usually just ignore forum members who I don't like lol.
It's too late to edit this comment but I wanted to clarify I was not refering to Tony when I said I ignored members I didn't like, that was an in general statement for any forum I'm on.
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
It's hard to miss what amounts to an (unpaid) shill for Acura.
I dont' know about that. Talks like he gets a commission for every TLX that gets sold! Wish he'd buy one already and finally earn some "street cred"!
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Old Sep 10, 2023 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RDX10
I've never had any issues with him whatsoever so maybe I see it differently but I usually just ignore forum members who I don't like lol.
Probably because he lurks mostly in the TLX threads and rarely the RDX ones. When I picked up my '21 TLX A-Spec, I also lurked in the RDX threads primarlily because those owners had a 2 year head start on the infotainment and the 2 cars are very much alike. I've found the RDX owners to be more honest and open whereas the more vocal TLX owners are definitely sipping the Acura Kool-Aid.
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Originally Posted by ELIN
Probably because he lurks mostly in the TLX threads and rarely the RDX ones. When I picked up my '21 TLX A-Spec, I also lurked in the RDX threads primarlily because those owners had a 2 year head start on the infotainment and the 2 cars are very much alike. I've found the RDX owners to be more honest and open whereas the more vocal TLX owners are definitely sipping the Acura Kool-Aid.
I think RDX owners tend up be less defensive about the car because (for good reason) there’s less criticism lobbed at it. For what it is, (when new) it was far more competitive in its class, it’s far less compromised, and it was much better received by buyers and reviewers alike. It does what you expect a CUV to do and does it quite well (save for the infotainment shitshow), exceeding expectations in some area. The TLX on the other hand doesn’t quite do sport sedan things as well, and that results in a lot of missed expectations, especially with how much hyperbole and hype Acura placed onto it.

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Originally Posted by ELIN
Probably because he lurks mostly in the TLX threads and rarely the RDX ones. When I picked up my '21 TLX A-Spec, I also lurked in the RDX threads primarlily because those owners had a 2 year head start on the infotainment and the 2 cars are very much alike. I've found the RDX owners to be more honest and open whereas the more vocal TLX owners are definitely sipping the Acura Kool-Aid.
Originally Posted by fiatlux
I think RDX owners tend up be less defensive about the car because (for good reason) there’s less criticism lobbed at it. For what it is, (when new) it was far more competitive in its class, it’s far less compromised, and it was much better received by buyers and reviewers alike. It does what you expect a CUV to do and does it quite well (save for the infotainment shitshow), exceeding expectations in some area. The TLX on the other hand doesn’t quite do sport sedan things as well, and that results in a lot of missed expectations, especially with how much hyperbole and hype Acura placed onto it.
Agreed with respect to RDX owners being a lot more open and honest about the pros and cons of their vehicle which I really appreciate, nothing more irritating than an echo chamber circle jerk where everyone praises something that really shouldn't be praised as highly.
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RDX10
I obviously knew this was a joint venture with GM but my God all I see is GM when I look at this thing. Why didn't Acura just wait and make their own with Honda.
Seeing lots of similarities to my wife's Terrain!
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 12:49 PM
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I am not interested in a EV vehicle at this time. There are too many kinks to be resolved primarily the charging and charging locations. I think Acura is diluting the brand sourcing through GM. The Honda battery venture with LG Energy Solution Ohio will be completed by the end of 2024 with mass production of the lithium-ion batteries by the end of 2025. Acura may have their own branded EV vehicles sometime in 2026 as 2027 models.
In my opinion, the Prologue and ZDX will be a GM stepchild.. Not sure how the used market will view their value. Sourcing mechanical and body parts through GM will probably not be as efficient for Honda/Acura dealers.
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by amcobra
I am not interested in a EV vehicle at this time. There are too many kinks to be resolved primarily the charging and charging locations. I think Acura is diluting the brand sourcing through GM. The Honda battery venture with LG Energy Solution Ohio will be completed by the end of 2024 with mass production of the lithium-ion batteries by the end of 2025. Acura may have their own branded EV vehicles sometime in 2026 as 2027 models.
In my opinion, the Prologue and ZDX will be a GM stepchild.. Not sure how the used market will view their value. Sourcing mechanical and body parts through GM will probably not be as efficient for Honda/Acura dealers.
Yeah, I'm not even sure how the ZDX/Prologue will even be serviced, especially long term.

This is most definitely a case of Honda/Acura desparately looking for an EV option to bring to market so that they can say they offer an EV. Toyota/Lexus are doing the same thing by trying to get something to market fast, but at least the GM hardware should be pretty good, unlike with the BZ4X/Solterra/RZ.
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
Yeah, I'm not even sure how the ZDX/Prologue will even be serviced, especially long term.

This is most definitely a case of Honda/Acura desparately looking for an EV option to bring to market so that they can say they offer an EV. Toyota/Lexus are doing the same thing by trying to get something to market fast, but at least the GM hardware should be pretty good, unlike with the BZ4X/Solterra/RZ.
We don’t know that. Look at the number of recalls the Bolt went through.
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by amcobra
Sourcing mechanical and body parts through GM will probably not be as efficient for Honda/Acura dealers.
You can bet Acura is going to be way behind the totem pole of Jeep, Cadillac, and even Honda, etc. for parts.
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ELIN
You can bet Acura is going to be way behind the totem pole of Jeep, Cadillac, and even Honda, etc. for parts.
I think you mean Chevy, not Jeep?
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I think you mean Chevy, not Jeep?
Yes, I meant Chevy. Thanks!
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@ELIN With all respect, you bought your Acura and sold it for whatever reason. I own two Acuras of my own. As a non owner, you have commented over 2.8K in less than 3 years vs. I have 3.1K in almost 10 years! So, let's not get there! You're more in "love" with Acura than me. I have nothing against you but just wanted to remind you that your activities are top notch here

@RDX10 no worries. You're entitled to your opinion. I enjoy reading your comments (positive or negative).
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Old Sep 11, 2023 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Pac
@ELIN With all respect, you bought your Acura and sold it for whatever reason. I own two Acuras of my own. As a non owner, you have commented over 2.8K in less than 3 years vs. I have 3.1K in almost 10 years! So, let's not get there! You're more in "love" with Acura than me. I have nothing against you but just wanted to remind you that your activities are top notch here

@RDX10 no worries. You're entitled to your opinion. I enjoy reading your comments (positive or negative).
I've only been a non-owner for less than 1 year so let's not go crazy w/how many posts I've had as a "non-owner" (which has considerably dropped as hopefully even you can admit). There's just less for me to complain about!

These days, I truly come alive for Tony and LegendTL comments!
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Old Sep 15, 2023 | 08:52 AM
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I've only been a non-owner for less than 1 year so let's not go crazy w/how many posts I've had as a "non-owner" (which has considerably dropped as hopefully even you can admit). There's just less for me to complain about!

These days, I truly come alive for Tony and LegendTL comments!
I am happy you are here...that's all!
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Yup looks like cheap GM parts bin junk. Especially that steering wheel and that HUD hump thing on the dash. It has that cheap GM faux leather & the stitching looks cheap & like it will fray easy.
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