ELIN

The tax credit is nice but I heard on the news today that insurance on EVs can be nearly twice as much as gas engine cars. Any comment on this?

fiatlux

As with most things in life, it depends.

sonyfever

How about Polestar 2? Is it still MSRP?

fiatlux

It's fixed pricing because there's no dealership, just like with Tesla. But unlike Tesla, they haven't been slowly raising prices.

EFR

Is this true? I wonder why, if so. Perhaps someone who has bought an EV can weigh in.

Unobtanium

Insurance on my RDX is $9/mo more than on my RAV4 Prime. Not sure about full PEV.

mathnerd88

My Mach E GT which is worth almost twice my 2019 RDX only cost me $80 extra every 6 months, so about $160 extra a year compared to my RDX.

I also have full coverage, $0 deductible comprehensive and $250 collision deductible with $1 million liability.

EV doesn’t cost twice as much as ICE to insure. It was about 20% more but again, a brand new Mach E GT costs a lot more to replace than my used 2019 RDX.

EFR

Thanks.

sonyfever

Thanks, I have been intrigued by Polestar 2, but have a little concern about the brand's long term business plan now that electrification is accelerated across all brands. From what I read, Polestar to Volvo is like Acura to Honda. Eagerly waiting for Polestar 3, it looks like a nice balance of everything. Hope it's MSRP will be as competitive as 2.

leomio2.0

As promised, I was filling the car with 87 for the past few tanks so all the 93 is out of the system. Filled it up again today with 87 from the same Sunoco gas station I usually go to. Decided to go back to the same spot today. It was slightly warmer out today, but still nice. It read 61*F @ 5:19PM EST after going to the supermarket to grab some things. Just myself, light groceries and my gym bag in the car. Car was in the exact same settings as last time, tested at exactly the same spots as last time too. A/C was off (it sucks anyways) once I left the supermarket and drove 3mins to the trial spot. I used the same iPhone video editor to seek out the times.

First Run: 6.73s
Second Run: 6.79s

If you negate the 1-ft rollout, it would be 6.43s and 6.49s respectively. Compared to using 93 which ran 5.64s on a day that was 16 degrees colder (doubt that factor played a big role).

I noticed the car doesn't pull as hard at higher RPMs with the lower octane gas. Another thing I noticed is the car's transmission performance isn't as smooth. It hunts more and seems confused as to what the best gear is to use. Its happened a handful of times since starting to fill up with 87. Coincidence? Maybe. Now that gas is starting to trickle back down, I'm going back to using my 91-93 mix.

SG103

The 0-60 time in the RDX is decent. I'm an old guy, I had a 1989 Trans-am GTA automatic with a 350ci V8. This was the last year you could get the 350 and it was a very desirable car. The 0-60 time on that car was six seconds. Here we are with a much heavier car and a 4 cylinder that's close to 6 and much better gas mileage. The sound is an entirely different story, but to most people, the sound doesn't matter.

ColoRDX

You're being generous with a 0-60 six seconds on your 1989 Trans-Am GTA. A stock 1988 and 1989 Trans-Am GTA ran in the mid sevens which wasn't bad for the day.
The 1989 (turbo) Trans-Am 20th Anniversary Edition was clocked at a 5.0 zero to 60. There were only (about) 1500 produced.
A vehicle today running 0-60 in the sixes is pretty bland and garden variety if you're a driving enthusiast. Even vehicles running in the 5's are common.
I realize that non driving enthusiast don't give a rip about impressive acceleration. They are the "just get me from point A to point B" people.

JB in AZ

While I am not just a point "A to point B" person, I don't directly care about 0-60 times. What I care about is that I have enough "get up and go" to pass without it giving me a heart attack wondering if I am going to make it.

EFR

Well, our land Rover 0-60 was 11 seconds, so for those that might be disappointed with 0-60 6 second times, don't be. And JB, that LR epitomized the "heart attack" feel when passing someone. You really had to plan out what you were doing when passing. insuring a very long visual on the road ahead.....same thing with merging on to a freeway and trying to get up to speed. And for those that want to throw the classic muscle car you used to have around, and it's capabilities, I had a '69 Shelby GT500 convertible, technically the 'super cobra jet, option....capable of 0-6- at about 6.5 seconds....really pretty pathetic when you think about what that monstrous engine, gas guzzling, V8 'muscle car' was, and it can't even keep up with the little 4 banger RDX. When I see these articles of the Tesla's that can do 0-60 in the 2's, it is really amazing. However, at 65 y/o, 0-60 is something I think about...never. And if it was important to me, an RDX is not the car I would have bought. While disappointed in the RDX's gas mileage, that little engine has provided plenty of power for whatever we have needed.

ColoRDX

I agree. I too didn't buy my RDX for stellar acceleration. It's peppy but that's about where it ends. Acura touts the RDX as a (so called) luxury performance crossover but, its acceleration is last in its class. I purchased the vehicle because I thought it was the best overall bang for the $$.

Unobtanium

HotRodW

$400 oil changes for the GLC? You've been misinformed. $225 to $250 is a realistic range for a dealer oil change and inspection. Not cheap for sure, but it only happens every 10k miles. And yes - it is well known that both Mercedes and BMW underrate engine output.

ColoRDX

Trumps the BMW by whose numbers? Post or direct me to some reliable numbers like Car and Driver, Motortrend, etc., etc. Not from some do it you selfer you watch on Youtube.

Unobtanium

my local dealer charges $399 for A service and $799 for B service on my buddy's cla35 amg. When I asked about the GLC, I was told the brakes would be cheaper when those came due, but otherwise pretty much same same. Maybe $100 cheaper on each, for 299/599, but compare that to my RDX at $42+oil for oil change, tire rotation, A service basically....oof!

Unobtanium

I'll take MY data. It pertains to ME. Draggy is recognized as a reputable way of measuring acceleration. For example, all your magazines didn't make my turbo cx5 as fast as my rdx...was what it was in the real world.


Regardless, here you go.




My RDX is faster than this, with me driving it, which is what I care about. For example WRX numbers...magazines rev them to 5500 and dump the clutch...are YOU doing that? Magazine numbers need viewed as what they are, vs real world "what YOU can do..." numbers. If you didnt grow up racing, I understand this wont make any sense, but others who did understand.


Let me word it this this way...BMW and MB you say are sandbagging...not accurate on horsepower. You dont trust it because of real world data...maybe you can appreciate that some vehicles commonly underperform driven in a way an actual owner drives them, and some outperform, magazine data. Like the RDX. Noone actually runs as slow on a real drag strip or using draggy as magazine times, in this car...but its still faster motortrend vs motortrend than the new x3...

EFR

Maybe one thing to consider is how often those oil changes are 'required'. The last BMW we owned showed (a ridiculous) 15,000 miles between oil changes on the service minder, on the display. Our RDX is now getting ready to show it's next oil change on the maintenance minder which I think is the 5th oil change since new. (local dealer is $79.95 per change) so that's roughly $400 in oil changes whereas the BMW we had would not even be on it's first (we are at 13,000 miles). It seems to me the BMW dealer charged about $160 for oil and filter, so net-net, the BMW was quite a bit cheaper in total for oil-filter changes than Acura just because that MM on the Acura likes to request new oil....this.. all assuming you follow the maintenance minders schedules and alerts....

Unobtanium

I do oil changes at 5k miles. No matter whether it is this rdx, or my LS1, or vq37, or whatever engine. 5k.

EFR

Agree completely. I never understood how the MM in BMW was at 15K, and never followed it. The only pain was there was no way, at the time, to reset BMWs notification on the dash without taking it to a BMW dealer.

Unobtanium

Another fun fact for you...car and driver? Up until 2019 their measuring methods were so imprecise that they just estimated 1ft rollout. They began their timing runs at 3mph and called it good. Now they use VBOX to measure their times. They are literally less accurate than what I am providing you until 2019, and then they are on par. You just like them because you dont know a thing about how they function or test, just that you read it in a magazine. No less than 7 satellites gps coordinate to give us Dragy performance data. Its just as good as, maybe better than VBOX that your much vaunted super professional magazine uses.

ELIN

Mind sharing which Mercedes dealership this was?

Unobtanium

DM sent

ColoRDX

No can do. I believe no numbers from DIY'ers when it come to 0-60 times. Especially homer/fanboys of a particular manufacturer.

Unobtanium

Thats fine. Your beliefs dont alter what happens at the drag strip.

flames9

when I think drag strip....I ain't thinking a RDX, or any car in this category.

Unobtanium

Right, but they do get taken there and ao forth.

fiatlux

Last time I went to the dragstrip there was a X3 M40i there. You've never taken your XC60 T8 to the strip? I have a friend with an XC90 T8 that will take it out every once in a while just to troll some of the other folks there...nobody is expecting a 3-row Volvo family crossover to do mid-13s down the quarter mile.

anoop

The main question is -- has the hesitancy improved when you hit the accelerator in normal driving? Mine feels like it's taking a deep breath each time I need to punch it which would normally be dangerous but now I know to expect it and so I plan for it. So I care more about responsiveness in daily driving than the 0-60 spec.

Unobtanium

ive noticed no issues. I mean, if you're doing 20 in 5th and floor it, it takes a split second to drop all those cogs, but nothing complaint worthy, and certainly better than the Stelvio I drove.

ColoRDX

You're right. Mid sixes 0-60 vehicles usually aren't drag strip participants.

Baldeagle

This exact thing caused a hiccup for me just yesterday. I had passengers in car and was wearing my chauffeur hat instead of my F1 hat. The car to my left started to drift into my lane (his wheels were on the broken lane line). I needed to create distance fast but did not need 6-second to 60 mph power. And with passengers in the car, I also did not want the cacophony of a full blown, high rpm downshift. So, I squeezed the throttle to about 60%. Stupid me, I confused the transmission. The rpm sort of increased, boost slowly built and eventually, the car found itself and started to accelerate. But only after a jerky, awkward process. Kind of embarrassing and potentially dangerous from the perspective of horrible throttle response.

Unobtanium

Have you ever even been to a Test n Tune night? Bracket racing? Any open to public drag strip at all? You dont sound like it. There are tons of mid 14 second cars present. Metric tons.

Unobtanium

Ive only had the car for 3300mi now, but have never encountered any situation where the slushbox was confused and affected performance.