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Old 05-13-2019, 02:29 PM
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Very disappointing to read...that is stealing and being openly dishonest just to save a few bucks on a stupid mistake. That's a big problem today...no one wants to own up to being stupid and wants everyone else to foot the bill. Sounds like a familiar government party vying to get back into power by promising people free $hit
This is why when a legitimate problem happens with something like the sunroof randomly shattering to someone the dealer always assumes the worst and that the person is lying about it
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Old 05-13-2019, 02:33 PM
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Hyundai recently recalled their Tucson for shattering panoramic sunroofs. Thankfully I never had this issue with the Tucson. Seems like this is a common problem among all car makers. Another example of when automotive engineers get too caught up in innovation and forget about necessary design requirements. One of the main problems with panoramic sunroofs is that they require a very rigid frame to protect it and minimize flex. This adds weight to the roof, thus raising the center of gravity of the vehicle.
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yup kind wondering whats really going on..
I personally would have not believed it without the pics, but it's very clearly there. However I do really really hate people who make one post, get a shit ton of replies, and then never ever come back to update. It's frustrating and a massive waste of time.
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Old 05-13-2019, 02:52 PM
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Holly Crap!!! Be thankful you had sun guard screen fully closed & glass did not fall & make scary situation even worse. They might have had to change the name of the company from ACURA to "DARSH88" if you sued them if you crashed.

I’ve read that as all sunroofs are getting larger this type of thing is happening more & more. I’ve heard that its more incline to crack after hitting a big bump or shifting lanes very quickly, like to avoid something is the road. I’ve also heard it more incline to happen if there is a wide temperature variance from inside & outside. I’d race back to the dealer & get a loaner for free while the obtain the replacement glass. Good luck
Old 05-13-2019, 03:53 PM
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I personally would have not believed it without the pics, but it's very clearly there. However I do really really hate people who make one post, get a shit ton of replies, and then never ever come back to update. It's frustrating and a massive waste of time.
Right. Especially when it isn't a troll post.
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:19 PM
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Holly Crap!!! Be thankful you had sun guard screen fully closed & glass did not fall & make scary situation even worse. They might have had to change the name of the company from ACURA to "DARSH88" if you sued them if you crashed.

I’ve read that as all sunroofs are getting larger this type of thing is happening more & more. I’ve heard that its more incline to crack after hitting a big bump or shifting lanes very quickly, like to avoid something is the road. I’ve also heard it more incline to happen if there is a wide temperature variance from inside & outside. I’d race back to the dealer & get a loaner for free while the obtain the replacement glass. Good luck
If this is a thing, why isn't the NHSTA (or x governent agency), industry watchdogs, some thumb-twittling Congressman or woman looking for attention or a rant to rant about, or 60 Minutes or somebody all over this? Or if they are, I missed the big brouhaha.

We like opening the shade to let the sun shine in and if that should happen, not going to be pretty...
Old 05-13-2019, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by birdonamission
If this is a thing, why isn't the NHSTA (or x governent agency), industry watchdogs, some thumb-twittling Congressman or woman looking for attention or a rant to rant about, or 60 Minutes or somebody all over this? Or if they are, I missed the big brouhaha.
Haven't you heard? Regulation is the root of all evil. There's gotta be some way to pin this on the consumer.

( For extra credit, translate and name the source of the unaltered quote: "Radix malorum est cupiditas" ).

Back to shattering windows, I once managed to stick the tongue of a utility trailer through the back glass of an SUV, as I was loading a very large quantity of horse manure into it with a wheel barrow. I blame the horse.

But as Forrest Gump would put it: "it happens".

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Originally Posted by Wander
Haven't you heard? Regulation is the root of all evil. There's gotta be some way to pin this on the consumer.

( For extra credit, translate and name the source of the unaltered quote: "Radix malorum est cupiditas" ).

Back to shattering windows, I once managed to stick the tongue of a utility trailer through the back glass of an SUV, as I was loading a very large quantity of horse manure into it with a wheel barrow. I blame the horse.

But as Forrest Gump would put it: "it happens".
Dang boy!

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Old 05-14-2019, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dereileak
This is why when a legitimate problem happens with something like the sunroof randomly shattering to someone the dealer always assumes the worst and that the person is lying about it
I was aware of the lying part, but what surprised me was that the dealer admitted it that this was not unusual and on the rear hatch window, not a glass pano roof!

What I also remember is back in 2012, Hyundai recalled the Veloster pano roof and there was a class action lawsuit.
https://www.classlawgroup.com/hyunda...nroof-lawsuit/
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Right. Especially when it isn't a troll post.
Exactly! At the least let other members or future forum searches get some benefits from your situation.
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can this happen while normally driving on a highway too because of a rock or something?
I dont think insurance covers this? wow this is so scary! how much was the fix?
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Originally Posted by OAcuraFanBoyO
can this happen while normally driving on a highway too because of a rock or something?
I dont think insurance covers this? wow this is so scary! how much was the fix?
Typically not caused by a rock unless a falling meteor hits your roof. Insurance will cover this but your dealer will not as it's not considered warranty. It is VERY expensive as these roofs cost a ton.
Old 06-14-2019, 02:51 PM
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^ Most definitely and it happens. Sometimes it's due to external causes and sometimes it "just happens".

The comprehensive auto insurance generally covers all glass breakage regardless of fault.
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Old 06-14-2019, 03:05 PM
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This happened to my inlaws 2009 Toyota Venza last yr....driving down the highway and BAM.....it cracked..scared the crap out of them.....even though it was out of warranty, Toyota fixed it for free as a goodwill gesture
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^ Most definitely and it happens. Sometimes it's due to external causes and sometimes it "just happens".

The comprehensive auto insurance generally covers all glass breakage regardless of fault.
wow this just worries me, I should call my insurance guys and find out about it.
Old 06-14-2019, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OAcuraFanBoyO
wow this just worries me, I should call my insurance guys and find out about it.
Don't you have comprehensive coverage?
Old 06-14-2019, 10:07 PM
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In direct Sun, the panel gets incredibly hot. I was applying Rain-X to mine, and while removing the Rain-X with a wet towel, I still could not keep my hand on the glass.
Old 06-14-2019, 10:26 PM
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Being totally serious, I don't think you need to apply Rain-X to the sun roof. The only purpose of that is to make water bead so it will roll off for visibility. And you aren't generally needing great visibility out of the sun roof, but also the water is always pulled off just by driving anyways.
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Yeah, I know but I do the whole car and I figured why not. The glass stays cleaner too. One thing I like about Rain-X is the more you use it, the less you have to use it. First app doesn't usually last very long. But each repeated application lasts longer and longer. To the point where just a good washing restores the effect. After a while, I'll only apply it twice a year.
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This has been happening "often." Acura needs to thicken the glass or something. The RDX is too flexible. Just look at the slow motion crash tests. The thing wiggles like jello.
That jiggling is the body/frame absorbing the impact instead of the occupant's bodies! These are crumple zone and just as the name suggests they are supposed to "give" to absorb energy.
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Don't you have comprehensive coverage?
I do have comprehensive with 1000 deductible. I just dont know if something like this would be covered or they screw me over.
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Originally Posted by OAcuraFanBoyO
I do have comprehensive with 1000 deductible. I just dont know if something like this would be covered or they screw me over.
Comprehensive covers glass. You don't have to worry. Any "missile" that damages glass is covered under comprehensive. Missiles include rocks, snow flying off truck, etc. Basically things that are flying through the air. Collision with animal as well. The only time it comprehensive DOESN'T cover glass is if you got into an accident that broke the glass, which is then covered under collision.

If you think about it, glass breaks upon impact. If you just tell them a rock fell on it and broke the glass, it will be covered by comprehensive.
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Originally Posted by OAcuraFanBoyO
I do have comprehensive with 1000 deductible. I just dont know if something like this would be covered or they screw me over.
$1000 is SUPER HIGH for a comp deductible
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$1000 is SUPER HIGH for a comp deductible
Agree, mine has always been $0.
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Originally Posted by OAcuraFanBoyO
I do have comprehensive with 1000 deductible. I just dont know if something like this would be covered or they screw me over.
Yeah, I don't know why you have such a high comprehensive deductible. Generally, their prices are much lower than collision part of your policy.

Mine is only $50 for comprehensive, and $300 for collision deductibles. I pay only $630 per 6 months for full coverage, 500k/500k liability, and this is in NJ for my RDX.
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Agree, mine has always been $0.
Then the insurance would be sky rocket high too. Even when I asked a quote for $750 it was like 20% higher.
But I guess since this is a new car I should bring it down to $750/500 atleast looking at you all.
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Originally Posted by OAcuraFanBoyO
Then the insurance would be sky rocket high too. Even when I asked a quote for $750 it was like 20% higher.
But I guess since this is a new car I should bring it down to $750/500 atleast looking at you all.
I guess it depends on your history, location and age. I pay $1100/year total for both our vehicles ($0 comp and $500 Coll). 2019 CX-5 Signature and 2013 Lexus ES350 UL. Both bought new. I had an RDX quote and it was within $50 of the CX-5.
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Originally Posted by OAcuraFanBoyO
Then the insurance would be sky rocket high too. Even when I asked a quote for $750 it was like 20% higher.
But I guess since this is a new car I should bring it down to $750/500 atleast looking at you all.
You should probably shop around with other insurance companies. Yours sounds very expensive.
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Same thing happened to my 2019 Acura MDX. This morning, I went to my car to get something, when I shut the door, I heard a big noise from the top of the car. I found the sun roof explored. I just bought it this October. I called the dealer, they said the warranty does not cover it

. I am so mad!
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Did you have the sunroof glass tinted by chance?
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This explain the loud popping noise I hear sometimes in my RDX. I won't be surprised if this is one of those common issues that is discovered later on...
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I believe in some states glass is covered under comprehensive with no deductible. MN for instance. But not WI.

And I have had sunroof glass failures, but they were associated with external impacts. And far, far from home. Once in grizzly bear country, which was somewhat disconcerting. Yet another of the 1001 uses for duct tape!

Do the bears know our cans have a convenient pull tab on top?
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I have full glass coverage through insurance.

Good thing too. Last year I had a rock kick up on the highway near the edge on the driver side and cracked the window. Looking at close to a grand for a new Acura windshield and camera tuning.
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I have had a ton of windshield claims (at least 5, maybe 6) and one cracked fog light, all on my BMWs, over a period of 15 years. Must be something about little rocks on the highways in CA. Prior to that no glass claims when I lived in NC or MA. I've been lucky so far with the RDX, but that's also because I don't do much highway driving now, especially not in the areas with heavy traffic.
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This is why when a legitimate problem happens with something like the sunroof randomly shattering to someone the dealer always assumes the worst and that the person is lying about it
I agree completely! It is disappointing to read that someone purposely lies to get something they should not get. Not only is it wrong on its own merits but it makes all of us pay more.
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Acura RDX 2020 sun roof exploding

The same issue on 2020 Acura RDX – sun roof exploded with no reason while driving on the highway, good weather and road condition. Roof exploded outward and it looks like it is design issue related to induced vortexes and natural frequency of the roof vibration. May be

Acura RDX 2020 sun roof exploded
it is manufacturing non conformance, but too many people experienced the same issue. I will claim manufacturer warranty to repair and if not granted it could result in class action lawsuits.
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Is it worth putting clear window film on the inside of the pano sunroof to help protect you if it shatters? I had road debris shatter my 08 RDX front passenger side window at hwy speeds. The window tint held the window together in one piece instead of collapsing.

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Is it worth putting clear window film on the inside of the pano sunroof to help protect you if it shatters? I had road debris shatter my 08 RDX front passenger side window at hwy speeds. The window tint held the window together in one piece instead of collapsing.
That is a solid idea. Now i am concerned about it shattering on children sitting in the back!
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Originally Posted by Andrei Strikovski
The same issue on 2020 Acura RDX – sun roof exploded with no reason while driving on the highway, good weather and road condition. Roof exploded outward and it looks like it is design issue related to induced vortexes and natural frequency of the roof vibration. May be it is manufacturing non conformance, but too many people experienced the same issue. I will claim manufacturer warranty to repair and if not granted it could result in class action lawsuits.
Or maybe a tractor beam from an orbiting space ship?

BS aside, air pressure differential may be involved in the final failure, but IMO the glass was probably subjected to some force that stressed it beforehand.

The question is whether that force was an external impact ( hail ? ), side loading from the vehicle flexing, or something that happened during assembly or transport of the vehicle. And sadly, I think that's going to be impossible to prove.

The cost of replacement may be lower than many people's deductibles, so I'm not sure who would track these failures. My insurance directed me to a sunroof and car accessories shop when I had failures on other vehicles.

In those cases, airborne objects bounced upward off the windshield, then bounced off the bottom of a car-top ski box and down onto the sunroof glass. Once it was a rock, and once it was a mourning dove. The dove also broke the windshield. ( ~ 80 mph ). The pressure drop from passing trucks caused the final pop hours later. And yeah, that's exciting!

I suppose it's possible the glass is defective in the first place, or an inadequate thickness, but there are an awful lot of these out there, and this particular sunroof may not be unique to RDX.
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Originally Posted by mrgold35
Is it worth putting clear window film on the inside of the pano sunroof to help protect you if it shatters? I had road debris shatter my 08 RDX front passenger side window at hwy speeds. The window tint held the window together in one piece instead of collapsing.
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That is a solid idea. Now i am concerned about it shattering on children sitting in the back!
Or just keep the cover closed on the highway.

I think I've had the cover on mine opened once, when my son asked why my new car didn't have a sunroof. Boy, did I show him!


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